E8400 CPU Errata

There appear to be some major problems with the new 45nm darling E8400 CPU.

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Shouldn't all of these be recalled and replaced with CPU's that work properly??

Are the chips faulty?

I wouldn't say its a major problem, but not being able to see the correct CPU temp levels would be annoying. If it caused BSD, or really rough performance, then I'd say.. ya, major problem.

Kinda wonder if Intel blundered on the IHS, or if the sensors are not working/calibrated correctly.

I know I'll be upgrading Q6600. that will be enough processing power for me, even though my E4400 is actually quite enough.

I have to say, that was a well put together sensible response, MrsBytch.
I completely agree!
It's certainly an interesting 'problem' as perhaps the temp reporting could also not adjust the fan to the correct setting under load?
If it's only OCers that are seeing any problem, I can't see Intel caring too much though...

but the fanboys sure turn it into a big thing and cause them to lose millions in sales over it.

Girl you are so right! What if there was no giagantic hype about the errata for both phenom and 8400.. Both chip sales would probally be much higher

I dont even understand errata problem is but the way it was hyped people thought the chips were seriously jacked up

Intel sure don't want people to overclock ... that wrecks their upgrade path for future sales.

Why do you think they are straining the noise threshholds on the Mercury Outboard memory controller trying to get 1600FSB running?

Sure don't need the bandwidth on a single socket.

Sure makes the bridge run hot too ...

BUT ... it does make it damm hard to overclock the chip doesn't it?

Also having a faulty temp diode would put some people off trying to overclock it too ...

Not so the hardcore ... stick it on water and shove nearly an extra volt at the biatch and make it scream ...

But it does help if you can sense the temps reasonably well without having to buy an aftermarket product.

I'd say if you bought one of these and burned it they would have no choice but to replace it free of charge.

If I were a hardcore overclocker looking for a "special" chip I would definitely start with one of these.

You can't go wrong because they have to replace it !!!

SUCKERS !!!

Soo.....what are saying, im confused?

Heh, so it's the fanboyz fault? Wait... how did the news of the bug get out? I think its more of the press, then people getting angry reading/intemperate it, and because of mis-information or FUD, buyers hold off and wait.

But then I think its is mainly AMD's fault if they knew there was a problem, and by trying to fix it, (performance hit) well that just didn't help any.

I mean if fanboyz are the ones that caused millions of dollars to go down the drain, then they all should Unite and do something about global warming.

Read the first part of Reynod's post below yours, that is exactly why they don't want you OCing...
They might fully appreciate that the E8400 & E8500 are probably running massively below their limits, but they need to take the lowest average user into consideration when they make the CPU's...
i.e. How pissed would you be if you bought it stock at say 3.8/4.0GHz and it's life was shortened becuase of high VCore and you'd planned to keep it for say 5years?
My parents don't upgrade their PC all the time, because they don't need to, I do, becuase I can AND want to!
Also, selling them as OCable chips would completely negate the point of their EE CPU's...
Which they obviously market for the enthusiast! I mean I obviously need a 31x multiplier on my QX6850 anyway!

Thanks Thunderboy.

Thanks for the perspective. I appreciate you takin the time to respond.


And reynod is really annoying.

I have no fanboyness in me. I dont care what I have, long as it serves my needs.

Same here.. You know as well as I do the Q6600 is one of the best deals on the market right now. And until the 3870X2 came out the 8800 GTS G92 was the best bang for the buck. I'm really hoping the RV770 impresses me.

Can we race my Mustang?

If its a distance race, you'll win hands down. Im lucky to get 12mpg when I run my high-boost map.

Do not blame the AMD bug on Fanboys/Press. AMD did the stop ship. That is what sticks out. Hey AMD stopped shipping the cpu because of a defect. That and that alone caused most of the fuss about the TLB error

WHAT?!?!?! An Intel processor has an errata issue?!?!?! No effing way! This must be a mistake.

And here I thought it was only AMD processors that have errata. Silly me...

Just a WRX no STI. The insurance rates would kill me.

I have upgraded to a VF34 ball bearing turbo, up-pipe, down-pipe, cat back exhaust, and engine management. Then a bunch of suspension mods an such.

It would still be a good race though. Id probably get the hole-shot, but then while I wait for boost, your NA torque will pull on me.

Now, I dont know anything about your ride, but Id be willing to bet I could take ya in the twisties if nothing else.

BUT, I do not really want to reduce ourselves to bench racing. Its just nice to see another PC fan thats a gear head too.

And in reference to Mr Prius, he'd kick both our butts in a MPG distance battle.

Lol, Nice.. 94 Mustang GT, 5.0L.

Custom SCT Tune, Headers, Xpipe, Cat-back, Aluminum Flywheel, Racing Clutch, Racing Transmission, Aluminum Driveshaft, Cold Air Intake, 4.10 gears, and a few other goodies. I love my car, haha.

And you'd kill me on road course, my car is setup for straight shots. Oh, and I get about 10-15 MPG depending on how I drive it.

I'm still waiting for the B3 stepping, because I'm waiting on the 780G boards with power saving. I just ordered a 3870x2 from Newegg, and it would not be CPU limited with a Phenom. Nor would it waste juice surfing the net with power saving.

The one thing Nvidia's doing right is enabling IGP's on all their new boards for power saving features. I'd get a 790 board for future CrossfireX with two 3870x2's or one 3870x2 and one R700 if it had an IGP for power saving mode.

Still, I see no insurmountable problems with the B2 Phenom errata. CPU's have errata. Most people do not encounter them and even when they do, it's so much like a typical Vista or XP glitch that it just means a restart.

The biggest complaint I've heard about the Wolfdale's is that there's a shortage of CPU's. Considering I only saw one 3 gigahertz Wolfdale for $229 at Amazon when I last checked, I guess they're having yield issues. We always here about yield issues with AMD, but Chipzilla avoids enthusiast scrutiny. Why is that?

I gave this morning at Newegg when I ordered an MSI 3870x2. For that price I could have gotten a Phenom and a 770 board, but I'm holding out for the 780G with POWER SAVING.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127326

IMHO, it's not AMD anymore, it's ATI with a CPU division. So why is Hector Ruiz still in charge?

Yea.. mine has C1E and EIST disabled...

I actually hate having mine on a hill. The cluch is an on/off button, there is no slip - all grip. If I get it on a hill and don't do it just right the tires break loose and I'm not even trying to!

Last time I had it dynoed it had about 350 ft/lbs of Torque. I need to get a new 5.0L or a Head Cam and Intake swap on it (adds ~50-60 HP). The stock heads on the 5.0L (non-Cobra) are really restrictive. You can actually pick up heads off a 5.0L Explorer that perform better.

You own a toyota prius..........Have you lost the will to live yet??

Is that also the reason why AMD delayed their Phenom 9700+ line, so they can find a way to include a miniature fire extinguisher in the package?

Linky plz??

I'm way too tired to look through all the other links...

ew interesting.

That's quite alright!
Interesting that it developed into car talk... you and your damn yank motors! Unfortunately insurance over here (UK) for me is still horrific, so I'm biding my time until I can buy something faster. Hopefully end of this year or early next I'll be buying a Lotus Elise

Subaru aint yank.

Edit: And the Lotus would be sweet...very purpose built car no frills. I like the Exige as well.