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January 25, 2008 6:49:31 PM

Hi all

Just a bit of background for starters. I've just brought a new Antec p182, a 550W PSU and a shiny new XFX 8800GT Alpha dog edition.

I transfered all my components over to the new case...went to power up my machine only for thier to be NO display and the HDD+POWER light constantly on. Oh...and the graphics card is also running at full fan speed (this is a soon as I press the power button)

Core 2 Duo E6400
Asus P5VD2-MX

Something is not right, I've just put in my old ATI X1900 and it works fine. Please dont say the card is faulty -_-

Thanks in advance for the help guys :( 

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January 25, 2008 7:06:01 PM

Do you have the 6 pin extra power connector in? If so, have you uninstalled the x1900 drivers before putting in the 8800GT?

The way you describe the HDD and Power light constantly being on makes me believe its: a faulty card, the card isn't getting enough power and the PC can't POST properly, or something isn't seated / connected right.

Does your HDD and Power light stay lit when you use the x1900?
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January 25, 2008 7:17:19 PM

That sucks, maybe a BIOS update would help?

If not, this would be the reason why I only purchase mainstream boards. (ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, Abit, etc) VIA chipsets and those ECS / Elitegroup boards are terrible.
January 25, 2008 7:30:15 PM

Yeah, tried the bios upgrade.

I'll be honest with you...i'm stuck now. I dont know what to do. I'll just go and buy a mobo and it wont be compatible. I dont know what to look for :( 

£30 is my budget ;) 
January 25, 2008 7:39:12 PM

Looks like PSU or video card! What 550W PSU? Make/model. Was it a $50 PSU? X1900 uses similar power to 8800GT, so looks like RMA time for video card. Just to see, try ols PSU with 8800.

Mike.
January 25, 2008 7:57:44 PM

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Yeah, tried the bios upgrade.

I'll be honest with you...i'm stuck now. I dont know what to do. I'll just go and buy a mobo and it wont be compatible. I dont know what to look for :( 

£30 is my budget ;) 
Save the money for a bit and then get a respectable motherboard.

One of the best affordable boards I can think of is the GA-P35-DS3L. I know for a fact that works with the 8800GT, it even has support for 45nm Intel chips. :) 
January 25, 2008 8:53:20 PM

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why I only purchase mainstream boards. (ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, Abit, etc) VIA chipsets and those ECS / Elitegroup boards are terrible.


Sorry to spoil your fun but even mainstream boards like asus have used and continue to use via chipsets. I have a special xp install disk from a former employer to deal with the activation Nightmare that happens when you have to do a repair install on them. (yes, ASUS :pfff:  )

Sorry to hear about the tight budget- only about $59-us. I wouldn't try any mobo's that are in that price range. they arn't worth spit. You need to be looking in the $150 range for anything that won't give you problems out of the box.

:bounce:  Here is a great one : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131142

Although it's 2x you budget, it a great board. Just make sure you have a case with proper airflow as the northbridge on there runs very warm. I use to work with it's older brother and I doubt they have resolved that yet, but it's no biggie... And the fact that the chipset is NVIDIA meens that your card will feel right at home where it belongs. :sol: 

Thats the key-Match the chipset to the card. ;) 

AS for that board you found- please follow my motto: El'cheapo parts and/or unknown retailer = crappy Computer and wasted money.
January 26, 2008 6:32:23 AM

Thankyou all for the help guys, really, thankyou :) 
January 26, 2008 8:16:48 AM

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VIA chipsets and those ECS / Elitegroup boards are terrible.


I disagree. I built my gaming rig last week with an Elite group ECS P35T-A (p35 chipset) mobo. I have had no problems with it, in fact almost all the mobo's i've had have been ECS and not a thing has gone wrong with them! This one even supports the new 45nm Wolfdales. I've read that it doesn't overclock well but for a VERY cheap (in price) board its performance & features are outstanding.
January 26, 2008 9:52:36 PM

s1mmo said:
Nope, using the X1900 my computer works fine.

Yes, the 6pin connector is in place.

Also, just been reading: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=55904

Says the VIA chipset on my mobo dosent support the 8800GT! :/ 



You just answered your own question.......get another mobo......use nvidia and forget the via......the mobo replacement will be cheape to replace....sell your current mobo and ati card.......it will pay for itself
January 27, 2008 12:01:04 AM

I had the Exact same problem .. with mine the card wasent in properly , just give it a good push and the at the end into the mobo and it Shuld workd
January 27, 2008 12:28:04 AM

i agree with altflood3r, i had the same issue. i had to take out my 8800gt and reseat it. make sure you uninstall the ati drivers first.
January 27, 2008 1:43:01 AM

@OP: I don't see why a particular chipset wouldn't support a given graphics card but I guess its possible. A good cheap motherboard is the Gigabyte P35-DS3L... at least that's the cheapest I'd recommend to anyone.

SpudTECH said:
Thats the key-Match the chipset to the card. ;) 

That's really unnecessary and if interpreted incorrectly is misleading.

-mcg
January 29, 2008 6:04:55 PM

OH MY GOD!!

Quick update on this situation...purchased a new motherboard and RAM.

http://tw.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_O...

Cost me £50 and it has a NVIDIA Chipset FFS!...and the card STILL dosent work! :( 

Just 100% fan speed as soon as I press the on switch and no display on my monitor (old card works fine)

So i've RMA'ed it, hopefully it is faulty and my motherboard is actually compatible this time.
January 29, 2008 6:21:07 PM

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I disagree. I built my gaming rig last week with an Elite group ECS P35T-A (p35 chipset) mobo. I have had no problems with it, in fact almost all the mobo's i've had have been ECS and not a thing has gone wrong with them! This one even supports the new 45nm Wolfdales. I've read that it doesn't overclock well but for a VERY cheap (in price) board its performance & features are outstanding.
I said VIA and ECS suck. Mainly because of the VIA chipset. I guess it I could have narrowed it down to just the chipset, but my experience w/ ECS has been terrible. You've at least got a P35 chipset which is probably why you haven't had any problems.

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Sorry to spoil your fun but even mainstream boards like asus have used and continue to use via chipsets. I have a special xp install disk from a former employer to deal with the activation Nightmare that happens when you have to do a repair install on them. (yes, ASUS :pfff:  )
You're right. I should have said the enthusiasts boards from ASUS. (X38 and 780 / 790i chipsets) Those are the decent ones.

January 29, 2008 6:25:01 PM

Hey rgeist554 :) 

Would you see any problems with an 8800GT on a:

http://tw.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_O...

I've RMA'd my card just now, just hoping i've not brought another incompatible mobo.

Sorry If I come accross pushy, I've had no gaming for a week thanks to this whole fiasco xD

*cries in corner*
January 29, 2008 7:02:04 PM

It's Micro ATX first of all. So it's going to be very small, and you need to make sure your case has the required stand-off locations for a mATX board.

Secondly, it's got an IGP (Integrated Graphics Processor) this will leach your RAM if not disabled, plus it sucks. You'll also have to remove the drivers for it and disable in the BIOS when you get your 8800 in and set as the default.

I would try to get a GA-P35-DS3L if you can. It's one of the best, affordable boards out there w/ a ton of support.
January 29, 2008 7:19:34 PM

Trouble is, i've just brought it, have it in my hands :p 

Well, as long as theres no issues with it and 8800GT's :) 

Thanks, rgeist, you've been a massive help <3
January 29, 2008 7:28:36 PM

Np. I'm pretty sure the board will work, but you've got your work cut out for you when installing the card. :p 
January 29, 2008 8:11:19 PM

I've owned 2 ECS mobos and the one that was crap was a via chipset. You mix anything with Via and nothing but troubles. The only reason I used it was that I got it in a bundle, but it didn't last but maybe a few months at most til I tossed it.

The ECS that I had that was good, was also in the cheap under $100 USD pile. [It was a socket A board and not via, eons ago]
January 29, 2008 8:19:19 PM

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The only reason I used it was that I got it in a bundle, but it didn't last but maybe a few months at most til I tossed it.
That's how I got mine as well. One of those Fry's CPU / Mobo bundles. That's also how I got my Pentium D 8xx series. From that day forward I put a lot more research into the parts I purchased and tried to get a much better understanding of CPU components in general. >_>
January 31, 2008 5:24:42 PM

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That's really unnecessary and if interpreted incorrectly is misleading.


-mcg


There is nothing misleading about the truth.... and insinuating that I am misleading people is rather rude! :non: 

as anyone with some realworld tech experience knows..... :sarcastic:  you have a very hard time running sli on a crossfire board and the same for crossfire on an nvidia chipset. What I said runs true and will save new builders (and others) tons of problems. The best advice is to stay away from via boards and place ATI/AMD with ATI/AMD, and Nvidia with Nvidia.

By the way... I am glad that you offered your opinion.... It helps the entire forum to recognize your shear brilliance laddie! :sarcastic:  ;)  .



s1mmo- Cheer up laddie! you'll be gamming soon !!!
rgiest554 is correct...
the GA-P35-DS3L http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059&Tpk=GA-P35-DS3L is the best board out there for your price and performance needs. I wish you the best of luck with the replacment videocard.... May you have many happy hours fraggin aliens-(click on my sig below for what I do when I'm just having a good time with my computer.-lol!)

:sol:  :sol: 
January 31, 2008 6:14:48 PM

Evga has a bios update for their 8800GTs to will solve the compatibility problem with some MBs. XFX may have one also. Have you checked their website. The fan always runs at 100% during computer boot, that is normal on 8800gt & gts.
January 31, 2008 6:28:06 PM

What does everyone think about this build mobo vs video card???

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
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ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
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Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit
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EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported
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Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
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CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply
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ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
-
Seagate Barracuda ST3250410AS 250GB 7200.10 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OS
Seagate Barracuda ST3500320AS 500GB 7200.11 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Games, video, data
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Samsung SH-S203B SATA
-
Arctic silver 5 compound
January 31, 2008 7:24:58 PM

SpudTECH said:
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That's really unnecessary and if interpreted incorrectly is misleading.


-mcg


There is nothing misleading about the truth.... and insinuating that I am misleading people is rather rude! :non: 

as anyone with some realworld tech experience knows..... :sarcastic:  you have a very hard time running sli on a crossfire board and the same for crossfire on an nvidia chipset. What I said runs true and will save new builders (and others) tons of problems. The best advice is to stay away from via boards and place ATI/AMD with ATI/AMD, and Nvidia with Nvidia.

By the way... I am glad that you offered your opinion.... It helps the entire forum to recognize your shear brilliance laddie! :sarcastic:  ;)  .


:sol:  :sol: 


tell us your system specs please.
January 31, 2008 8:56:20 PM

I think there are few decent inexpensive boards, I just would plan on a stable over clock as the voltage regulators probably wont be up to the task.

I see that MrsBytch has done well with a $100 board, but IMO, the difference in OC capability between $50 and $100 is probably significant.
January 31, 2008 9:44:57 PM

Have to agree with those who don't like ECS... ECS support is the worst, and you can usually expect problems with a 3rd rate product. Just try to download a driver off their site if you don't believe me.
I also don't care for Nvidea chipset MBs. They're ok, but why not just get an Intel chipset. My P965 overclocks like a monster. I have also built the GA-P35-DS3L. Only complaint is the memory setup in the bios. Gigabyte makes a first class product, and support is top notch. Abit and ASUS are also great, but as always you need to read reviews. They all make duds. Avoid VIA like the plague.
January 31, 2008 9:49:53 PM

Hi Rallyimprezive! so you would like my system specs...

well to be honest I am currently using and old Gateway 1.5 p4 piece o crud, with agp 9800 all-inwonder and soundblaster audigy, running XPpro-sp2 and 1gig ram.

As for what I have built for other customers the most expensive was q6600 and a 680i sli and 2 gigs just when vista was released. That was fun getting drivers. I'm glad vista is much better now.... :sarcastic:  Actualy vista is realy nice now that there are drivers.

I also troubleshoot an entire vally here in Idaho that ranges from win me nightmares ( :pfff:  they wont upgrade them- no matter how much I beg and plead...) to new dell vista machines :sleep:  (booring and propriatary crap) to upgrading the newer hp's with 8800 gts's.(good out of box if you get the card) The Vally is poor but I love computers so much and the people that I can't make enough for new stuff.

But that is tha way it usualy is in the tech world- build the best, work on the rest, and own crap cause your too poor (that and your wife is in charge of the pocketbook :bounce:  )

But the dream system is a commin!!! thanks to congress and those tax rebates!!

here she is: https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=6989411&WishListTitle=SpudTECH+dream+System

I hope that answers anyquestions about my tech experience
January 31, 2008 9:51:42 PM

I can't speak for all ECS boards, but I avoid them now too after quite a few K7S5A problems over time. Blown caps for example.
February 4, 2008 3:47:46 AM

i got the same problem, an ECS mobo and 8800GS.....can't get any response after install...........and i read all the post............my question is......really have to buy a new mobo???
February 4, 2008 12:49:51 PM

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I also don't care for Nvidea chipset MBs. They're ok, but why not just get an Intel chipset. My P965 overclocks like a monster. I have also built the GA-P35-DS3L. Only complaint is the memory setup in the bios. Gigabyte makes a first class product, and support is top notch. Abit and ASUS are also great, but as always you need to read reviews. They all make duds. Avoid VIA like the plague.


I have to agree about Nvidia chipsets. I'm starting to dislike mine as it seems to be really fussy about how it handles SATA optical drives. I ordered a Blu-ray / HD-DVD combo drive (only 267.35 at http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=26553 if anyone is interested), and I'm praying that the chipset will play nicely with it. If not... I'm going to an X38 / P35 board.

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i got the same problem, an ECS mobo and 8800GS.....can't get any response after install...........and i read all the post............my question is......really have to buy a new mobo???
If your board doesn't support the card and there are no BIOS / driver updates that support it... then yes. Otherwise you can return the card or just wait and hope they release a fix (unlikely).
February 4, 2008 1:45:09 PM

Is your board capable of PCIe 2.0? I know it's not a 2.0 slot, but some boards are having issues with the card detecting that it needs to run at 1.x instead of 2.0. You might be having this issue.
February 4, 2008 1:59:02 PM

Send the motherboard back and get a REAL one.
February 4, 2008 2:10:33 PM

and learn the difference between "bought" and "brought"
a b Î Nvidia
February 4, 2008 2:34:46 PM

I'm going to guess from the dabs link that the OP is in the UK. Apparently it is not uncommon there for people to say "brought," when those in the USA would say "bought." It makes no difference who is "right," I understood him.
Seems to me I had a couple of decent ECS boards, but probably too long ago to be relevant (7-8 years?). VIA is on my personal "never buy" list, for being crap. I've had some nForce boards too, which seemed mostly ok, but they ran hot and had those irritating NB fans on them.
I just finished a -DS3L build this weekend that was utterly painless. Everything worked right away, no hassles. It has a HD3850 on it.
February 4, 2008 3:01:25 PM

I hadthesame problem with biostar tp35d2a7 & albatron 8800gt 512mb. Even the vga fan didn't moving. I RMA it, and it doesn't sent back to me till now.

My system :
e6300@2.8
Biostar TP35d2a7 (p35)
2GB KHX 6400
250gb & 320Gb Sata hdd
2 DVDrw
SB Audigy
PC P&C Turbo cool 510w SLI
February 4, 2008 4:54:25 PM

mlaporta said:
What does everyone think about this build mobo vs video card???

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
-
ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
-
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit
-
EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported
-
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
-
CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply
-
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
-
Seagate Barracuda ST3250410AS 250GB 7200.10 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OS
Seagate Barracuda ST3500320AS 500GB 7200.11 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Games, video, data
-
Samsung SH-S203B SATA
-
Arctic silver 5 compound



Very nice, a little pricey with the CPU/MOBO but your sure to get a nice OC with the IP35 PRO.
February 4, 2008 5:40:37 PM

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Very nice, a little pricey with the CPU/MOBO but your sure to get a nice OC with the IP35 PRO.
Erm, did you get this mixed up with the thread in the homebuilt section? :p 
February 6, 2008 5:18:54 AM

gwolfman said:
Is your board capable of PCIe 2.0? I know it's not a 2.0 slot, but some boards are having issues with the card detecting that it needs to run at 1.x instead of 2.0. You might be having this issue.


yea...my board didn't support 2.0 slot.......and ...do u know is there are any jumper setting on the VGA card can change from 2.0 to 1.X?
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