Hey Im thinking of building a new pc for the FIRST TIME!! and i was wondering if i could get some help from you?
Well here are the specs that I have looked at so far:
INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.40GHZ LGA775
SEAGATE 320GB 7200RPM SATA 16MB HARD DRIVE
CORSAIR XMS2 XMS2-6400 2 X 1GB DDR2-800(4-4-4-12) or Kingston ValueRAM (2 x 1GB) Dual Channel DDR2-800MHz PC-6400 Non-ECC
GIGABYTE P35-DS3L ATX MOTHERBOARD
MGE XG SIDEWINDER II GAMING CASE with 450W PSU
INNO3D GEFORCE 8500GT 512MB GDDR2 PCIE
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Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHz LGA775
GIGABYTE P31-DS3L P31 LGA775 DDR2 1066
ASUS 8500GT 256MB Silent PCI-E Graphic Card Seagate 320GB SATA 7200rpm 16MB Hard Drive
Thermaltake SOPRANO Silver Case With TT 430 Watt PSU
Kingston ValueRAM (2 x 1GB) Dual Channel DDR2-800MHz PC-6400 Non-ECC
Well there it is, im still confused with some of the parts like the ram (ECC or non ECC) . I know you cant mix between the two and the hard drives with the 8mb cache vs the 16 mb cache and sata vs sata2. Is 8mb considered to be sata and 16mb is sata2?
And does it make a big difference between a DDR 3 and a DDR 2 GPU? Does a DDR3 GPU consume more power?
And would it be better if I run XP instead of vista because I dont think I would be needing such a fancy advanced OS. Im quite happy with XP and besides I prefer my games eating up my pc resources rather than the OS.
Please for goodness sakes don't get 8500GT, it'll struggle even with Doom3. (Note that if KOTOR is all you want though, it'll be fine) If you are on -that- low a budget, at least do yourself a favor and buy an 1650pro or 7600gt for <$70. That'll do you a lot of good over the 8500GT which can't really play anything above WoW level.
Please for goodness sakes don't get 8500GT, it'll struggle even with Doom3. (Note that if KOTOR is all you want though, it'll be fine) If you are on -that- low a budget, at least do yourself a favor and buy an 1650pro or 7600gt for <$70. That'll do you a lot of good over the 8500GT which can't really play anything above WoW level.
Whats your budget? This what I got for under $800. This processor are much faster than Q6600 in games if q6600 not overclock, but still faster if E8400 are overclock. You probably want xp, better game performance. Anyway, there are only like 3 DX 10 titles, it will take about a year to develop games fully DX 10 optimize. Windows Vienna will launch on 2009, by the time they release TRUE DX 10 games, Vienna will be out that time. here the specs, and is a very quiet pc.
power supply Ultra / V-Series $58.12 ntel E8400 Dual Core Processor $212 GigaByte GA-P35-DS3L Motherboard$102.93 VisionTek Radeon HD 3850 Video Card $184.01 Patriot Memory 2GB PC2-6400 LAT:4 $73 Pioneer DVR-112D Dual Layer DVD±RW Writer $35.71 WD Caviar SE 250GB Hard Drive $64.00 COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP 58.28
Wow nice build but it seems like you dont have a proper graphics card.
Isnt Pricegrabber an American or Uk retail company? I dont think they would deliver to me in NZ.
I want 2gigs of RAM. So you think that Geforce 8500GT with 512MB is just average?
What about the 512MB 7950GT card? I was thinking of getting that card last year but I thought the 8*** series would be way better and i chose the 8500gt because it seemed cheap. But i guess you get what you pay for.
Ok then what graphics card would you recommend from this list:
SATAII is backward compatible with SATA, BUUUT, performance won't be the same. It'll be at SATA speed.
On the other hand, without a hard drive benchmark program, you probably will not notice much difference.
Game performance and overclocking:
Based on my experience with a medium-high performance PC (well, last year, it was), gaming performance becomes GPU limited at around 3 GHz - modern CPU, not a netburst P4.
"Windows Vienna will launch on 2009 ..." Based one previous Microsoft performance, it will be late.
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Overclocking since 1978: TRS80, 1.77 MHz Z80 to 2.01 MHz.
So are you saying the geforce cards are crap? What about 7950GT 512MB. Is that a good card? How does that card compare to the 88xx series?? Less power consumption??
Man im really confuised with you guys. So Q6600 isnt a good cpu? Well i just really want a fast pc and i dont plan on overclocking because i have no experience do so. I just want to put together a good pc.
No, not all of them. You don't look at a performance chart & jump to conclusion. You have to look at everything from performance to price to power consumption, etc.
The only card I'd get are 8800GT/GTS512 or HD3870 or HD3870X2.
you can use a power consumption calculator but probably 425W or so is what you would need, so get something around 550-750W.
Generally you don't want to operate a PSU at its limit. It would work fine, but PSUs are most efficient (less heat, more power) near the low and middle portions of their operating range.
Other factors to consider would be the noise, the reliability, and the purity of the signal. On an oscilloscope, a good power supply has very little ripple and no spikes. Just a continuous line at +12 volts on the 12 volt rails and same for other rails.
Other factors to consider would be (1) the location of the PSU fan as some cases do better with a PSU with a fan on the bottom (for example the coolermaster cosmo has a big square hole in the bottom of the case for the PSU's fan to draw cool ambient air into the PSU instead of warm air from within the case); and (2) modular power cords (use only the ones you need, store the rest in a bag in a closet, better airflow, less places for dust bunnies).
There is a link to a list of power supply units divided into tiers somewhere on this site that rates them. For example, PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 or 750 are quiet, and reliable but the fan is at the back not the bottom (so OK for an Antec 900 case but not so much for a Coolermaster Cosmos) and they are not modular.
Message edited by HamRadio on 01-24-2008 at 03:15:29 AM
