The Battle is Over.

[Loser777]

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=229127
Even if those numbers are not real, the 9800 is still underclocked and no more than SLI on one PCI-E lane, lowering bandwith+scalability and causing some nasty heat issues. So far, it's not even beating the 8800GTS in SLI, while the 3870X2 is.
Keep in mind that the 3870X2 is also going to be selling for much less. Also, as the 3870 is also gonna be released before the 9800 (1/28/08), ggnore nvidia.
3870X2 > 9800GX2
Discuss.

 

[randomizer]

So if the HD3870X2 is $AU653, how much will this thing be?

Oh, and the poll is empty.

 

[Loser777]

Sorry about that.
Meh, i heard around 300 bucks.

 

[randomizer]

I've seen it for $US485.99 http://www.motherboardpro.com/Sapphire-Radeon-HD-3870-X2-1GB-DDR3-PCIE-DUAL-DVI-I-TVO-RETAIL-MFG-Sapphire-Part-100221SR-p-514.html

 

[frozenlead]

quite honestly, i think the 9800gx2 shows just how cheap nvidia is. they couldn't redesign the thing for one board, so it can actually cool itself? quite honestly, what does the dual pcb design actually do besides make it cheaper to produce?

 

[IndigoMoss]

Nothing that I can think of Frozenlead. makes things a lot more inconvenient though. I think the 3870x2 was a step in the right direction, where the 9800GX2 is looking like the 7950GX2

I do have one question though, is the 1GB memory shared between the two GPUs or is it 1GB for both GPUs?

 

[randomizer]

Unless you play at 2560x1600 with 4xAA, it doesn't generally matter currently.

 

[mahoumatic]

3870 x 2 and 9800GX2, technically, are just more or less the same...
I guess 9800GX2 will end up a little bit faster than 3870 x 2,
just because it will release a bit later...
Intel GMA, of course, will win, for market share. Only those who play
Crysis will need something more than 8800GT or 3870 in the mean time,
and I guess it will be much more economic friendly to buy one card,
and then upgrade to SLI/XFire when needed.

 

[randomizer]

The 2900XT was released after the 8800GTX, it wasn't faster.

It's cheaper to get 2 3870s or 2 8800GTs here than an X2 :lol:

 

[pchoi04]

Wow... You guys are blind... The Intel Graphics Media Accelerator is clearly the winner!

 

[kpo6969]

Sorry about that.
Meh, i heard around 300 bucks.

Where?

 

[randomizer]

Yea good question, I haven't seen it less than 485 US

 

[LukeBird]

I think Nvidia are going to be hurt badly by the 3870X2 release, and if I were in the market for a new video card, absolutely no question I'd go with the 3870X2! I definitely wouldn't be holding out for the 9800GX2.
If the rumours turn out to be true, I think Nvidia have made a real ****-up in thinking that enthusiasts would go for an 8800GTX(X2) renamed and essentially a single-card solution....

 

[righteous]

AMD has been pretty impressive on the graphics side lately. Good to know all those engineers they pulled off cpu design, did some good somewhere else.

Nuh uh, AMD sucks, they are going to go out of business and Ruiz is going to be fired, and we're all going to die..
You heard it all here first from the experts!

I think it's a pretty good card with all the numbers I am seeing.
The current price will drop when more start showing up in inventories.
It still beats out the prices of it's competition by a decent clip as is.

I am waiting to see what happens over the next couple weeks and then I think I'll bite.
Just want to make sure I won't be stuck with a card that has dookie drivers.

 

[deceneu]

my 2 cents:

Intel media graphics accelerator rules

 

[nottheking]

I voted GMA just because I could. After all, it *is* going to have vastly more market share (andeven have more profits) than both of those two cards combined. And it seems that the days of the crap-tacular "Intel Extreme" are long gone... With their current design, it looks as if the upcoming X4000 will become viable for light gaming; i.e, those 10 million World of WarCraft players wouldn't need a discrete graphics card at all if they had that.

Also, @the Kittah: the 3870X2 is out NOW?! How did I miss this?!

 

[sailer]

I voted for the 3870 X2. It looks good, its here, Its not Nvidia. At the moment all my machines have Nvidia cards and I'm ready to try the competition.

 

[Evilonigiri]

I never owned an ATI. So I voted for 9800GX2.

Besides, it looks better.

 

[Loser777]

The GX2 even if it scales the same as SLI, is gonna be held back by 550 core.

 

[Xazax310]

I owned a HD 3870 and hated it it was such junk always studdering in games, couldnt play crysis at all, other games like COD4 it was ok in but like i said it would randomly studder, even did a fresh install of XP and no luck the Drivers+Card=Junk i switched over to the 8800GT and like it much better im able to do everything on High no problems.

I agree the 9800GX2(basically two G92's on one PCB) is worthless just like the 7950GX2 was so far Nvidia'a Dual GPU solutions have been horrible to say the best... ATI has been going in the right direction the X1950PRO DUAL GPU was there first step though it wasnt a hit and not many knew about it it faired quite well, the supposed 2600XT dual GPU, never saw the light of day just rumors, so my guess is they scraped it,
All im waiting for is nvidia new High end solution(no dual gpu's) 9800GTX or w/e there calling it these days my money is on that card right there.

 

[Evilonigiri]

The GX2 even if it scales the same as SLI, is gonna be held back by 550 core.

Crank up fan speeds then OC away.

Although I'm hoping the 9800GX2 will outperform the 3870X2, I'm betting it'll be giving roughly the same or worse performance.

 

[kpo6969]

When the 9800GX2 is released it will be underclocked by default for obivious reasons (just speculating)
-incredible heat issues
-power requirements
-the cooling solution seems to be in the same boat as the 8800GT

 

[Blacken]

-power requirements

Yeah, thats one subject ATI hasn't been very concerned with these days; power. Although you can bite the bullet with ease and give props to ATI for a thought through plan for this board. Like Randomizer always says: multiple cores are the future, not multiple CPU/GPUs.

 

[randomizer]

Like Randomizer always says: multiple cores are the future, not multiple CPU/GPUs.

Are you stalking me?

Does anyone think this card will cause a noticeable price drop on the HD3870 or 8800GT? I'm wanting to grab one, not sure which though, and they are both pricey.

 

[Evilonigiri]

Does anyone think this card will cause a noticeable price drop on the HD3870 or 8800GT? I'm wanting to grab one, not sure which though, and they are both pricey.

I would think most people agrees. Perhaps the 8800GT will drop to $190?