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February 5, 2008 12:40:24 AM

Hello,
I have 1200$ and i want to build a gaming pc, can anyone help me change my parts to better one or cheaper and better? This what i came up with:

Procesor: Intel Q6600 2.4 Ghz Quad Core ($245)
http://www.stalliontek.com/product_p/cpc4d-q6600.htm

MotherBoard: ASUS P5K ($140)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Heatsink: Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme ($57)
http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermalright-Ultra-120-eXtreme-...

Fan For Heatsink:Scythe ULTRA KAZE 120mm (9$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2GB ($75)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive: Segate 2x 250GB ($0)
I have it already.

Graphic Card: EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 512MB ($350)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: XCLIO A380BK ($119)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: SILVERSTONE 750W ($144)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Ok, all things in red are changed. But i am thinking about other ram cuz mine os 800mhz and the Mobo takes 1066. And how about cheaper power supply?

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TOTAL: $1049
-200~ Rebates :p 

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February 5, 2008 12:55:31 AM

Intel Q9450 should only be around the corner if you interested (slight performance increase)

Dont get the P5K premium it has had many issues, i would suggest going the P5K-e if you like the ASUS its a much more solid board

Tuniq is good the Thermalright 120 Ultra extreme is better although its more expensive and needs a seperate fan

RAM looks good although this would be nicer "Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 "

Good choice on GPU

Personally i think you can find better cases, Antec 900,Coolermaster Stacker, Thermaltake Armour are all in price range and better in my opinion
February 5, 2008 12:56:13 AM

Post in homebuilt you will get more help

If you can wait the Q9450 will be a better proc. then the Q6600
DO NOT get the premium it has many issues....get the P5K-E (like above) or a nice Gigabyte board like the P35-DS3R.
Good GPU
Get Crucial Ballistix instead....it is awesome memory
Get an Antec 900 case (love mine)
Also you probably dont need that big of a PSU....the 520HX (below) is a good choice
The Thermalright 120 Extreme is better cooler but it costs slightly more

Edit: Put in some advice :D  ^^
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February 5, 2008 12:58:19 AM

That's almost identical to my build, save for the fact that I went for only 2gigs of ram since I already had a copy of vista32, and the mobo is a gigabyte p35-ds3r. The p5k premium appealed to me just for the massive heatpipe on it, but I really couldn't justify the cost in an otherwise well ventilated case given similar specs to the ds3r.

If anything, I would say your PSU is a bit overbeefed and you could cut a few dollars there. I went with a corsair 520hx.

So yeah, all told you can shave almost 100 bucks without sacrificing any performance, which isn't bad if you already have optical/hard drives.
February 5, 2008 1:29:06 AM

When will be he Q9450 out?
February 5, 2008 9:04:56 PM

Unless you want to utilise SLI get the ASUS... the 780i and 680i's have issues with intel quads...

as for your RAM the 800 will be quite sufficient. Stock the Q6600 will only utilise 533mhz in 1:1 ratio the 800mhz is actually great for light to medium overclocking.

I think the Q9450 has been delayed till March... dont hold me to it though
February 5, 2008 9:13:12 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You'd probably be better off getting this card, and if you really want Crysis (which is an awesome game btw) then just buy it separately. Other than that, just what the others have said plus the fact that you need to be ready for the shape of the case you picked out. If you don't want the circular shape, but still want the two huge fans then check out this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 5, 2008 9:36:03 PM

chookman said:
Intel Q9450 should only be around the corner if you interested (slight performance increase)

Dont get the P5K premium it has had many issues, i would suggest going the P5K-e if you like the ASUS its a much more solid board


Tuniq is good the Thermalright 120 Ultra extreme is better although its more expensive and needs a seperate fan

RAM looks good although this would be nicer "Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 "

Good choice on GPU

Agreed. Also look in to a P35-DS3R/L/P. Good to see that you didn't skimp on the PSU. You might want to look in to the Corsair 520HX if on a budget.
February 5, 2008 11:53:20 PM

Still, need a good case ;/ If not i will stay with Xclio but i am not sure if that heatsink will FIN IT ?
February 6, 2008 12:02:52 AM

Antec 900 will fit but you already denied that :p 
February 6, 2008 7:14:39 PM

Well, i dont like the look of the case :p  I mean i dont like that thing on the case :p 
February 6, 2008 7:39:18 PM

thing on the case?
February 6, 2008 9:20:56 PM

Processor: Intel E8400 Dual Core (NewEgg $239.99)

Cheaper, faster stock, faster overclocked, cooler . . . unless you are Twoboxing Crysis on the same machine while editing some video and playing CDs, this should be . . . faster . . . cheaper . . . cooler.

Case: A matter of personal taste, of course. Since I would never have chosen the one you did, I'm hesitant to suggest anything lol.

But to suggest an alternative . . . I just used an Antec NSK6580 (NewEgg $79.99) and it was very nice . . . roomy, easy build, easily hold what you list . . . and for $50 less than you show it includes a 430W power supply. Even if you use that supply for backup, you are ahead. I'm using that PSU in an Antec HTPC case with several disks, DVD, E8400, but only a 2600XT vid card vs your proposed 8800GTS.

There are lots of other cases . . . read the reviews at NewEgg - ignore the rants - and you'll get a sense. (FWIW I've used an Antec 900, and Zalman and Antec HTPC cases costing $200-$350. The cheap Antec i recommended does the job very very nicely. Especially if money matters to you.)

MB: I've used EVGA, Asus, and Gigabyte. All have their pros, cons, and issues. In my experience, Asus web site and support is the worst, so I no longer use them. Why bother? YMMV. I have an EVGA 122-CK-NF68 (680i) mobo running a QX6850 mildly oc'd to 3.3 GHz with no problem, and I personally like EVGA's trade-in policy and support. As you can see above, others avoid EVGA lol.

Cooler: if you have never built before, I'd *strongly* recommend Arctic 7 Freezer Pro. This cooler installs in seconds, it tests extremely well, is half the price, and you will get excellent results without worrying about "How do I apply what thermal paste?" It comes pre-spread with good stuff. I repeat - if you have never built before, the odds are YOU will get a better result with THIS cooler.

Graphic card: You've chosen well IMO - you could go a step down with the GT and not lose much, saving $$ if that's important.

Then I'd recommend you install all this stuff using the Antec power supply, and see how you did. Play some games and OC a little. Then decide if you need a bigger power supply and what else you want to buy with the rest of your budget. Have fun!

Just one guy's heretical opinion.




February 13, 2008 1:42:22 PM

The new G92 GTSs are better than the GT's

1) The GTS has a dual slot cooler = cooler and less noise
2) They come with higher stock speeds
3) Supposedly the GTS's overclock better than the GT's

Personally I like EVGA as a company. Good support and warranty
February 13, 2008 1:47:04 PM

alveos said:
Which one is better: EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR: ZOTAC ZT-88TES3P-FCP GeForce 8800GT 512MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Just buy the computer dude, how many times do you need to ask the same stuff? You already SOLD the computer I helped you pick out the first time for more than you paid for it and were happy with it, why not build the SAME computer? You even said you already had a GTS!
February 13, 2008 2:23:42 PM

Silverstone Strider 600W is on the Egg for cheaper than the PSU you have up there now. I've got one and it hasn't failed me in over a year and a half.
February 13, 2008 3:29:01 PM

If I were you, I'd just buy all the products at Newegg.com. I find it silly to try and save $3 here and $2 here and $6 here when you can all get it packaged it one nice box from one company arriving at one time, with one credit-card payment. Yeah, if your wallet is tight, I understand, but in the end having only one bill, and one source to turn to "IF" something goes wrong is more of a comfort then the savings from buying parts at multiple vendors.

About your gear... If this a gaming computer, why the quadcore 6600? For price in the same ballpark you can get the E6850 or the E8400. Both are dual core, but will be a significant boost to your gameplay on most games available. Most games that are multi-threaded will still get better peformance from a faster clocked dual core then a slower clocked quadcore. Check Tom's CPU Charts for that.
February 13, 2008 3:34:30 PM

wrugoin said:
If I were you, I'd just buy all the products at Newegg.com. I find it silly to try and save $3 here and $2 here and $6 here when you can all get it packaged it one nice box from one company arriving at one time, with one credit-card payment. Yeah, if your wallet is tight, I understand, but in the end having only one bill, and one source to turn to "IF" something goes wrong is more of a comfort then the savings from buying parts at multiple vendors.

About your gear... If this a gaming computer, why the quadcore 6600? For price in the same ballpark you can get the E6850 or the E8400. Both are dual core, but will be a significant boost to your gameplay on most games available. Most games that are multi-threaded will still get better peformance from a faster clocked dual core then a slower clocked quadcore. Check Tom's CPU Charts for that.


I can overclock, can you overcore?
February 13, 2008 3:46:14 PM

I don't overclock my CPU. And if the OP doesn't plan to overclock either, then the E8400 or E6850 may be a better gaming option. If he does want to OC the system, then yeah, Q6600 is a nice option.
February 13, 2008 3:49:42 PM

wrugoin said:
I don't overclock my CPU. And if the OP doesn't plan to overclock either, then the E8400 or E6850 may be a better gaming option. If he does want to OC the system, then yeah, Q6600 is a nice option.


I said *can* - that was the keyword. If you have a quad core you *CAN* overclock. You can do the same with a dual core. However you can't over core anything...

My point? If you happen to play a game that does support quad cores (though rare) the Q6600 will perform better at stock speeds.

It's not exactly like the Q6600 is inadequate for gaming at 2.4 GHz either. Basically what I am saying is we are both right, it just all depends on the circumstance.
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