OEM?? first build help

[gamer383]

i got this set up i made with a 200£ budget..its not complete yet but i just wanted to know whats the difference between a OEM processor and a normal processor (is it just extra info?)

Corsair (VS2GBKIT667D2) 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 667MHz/PC2 5400 PC Memory non-ECC unbuffered CL5 - Lifetime Warranty - CORSAIR
In Stock
Sold by Digital Components Ltd £29.40
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ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 - Motherboard - micro ATX - i945GC - LGA775 Socket - UDMA100, Serial ATA-300 - Ethernet - video - High Definition Audio (6-channel) - Asustek
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Sold by IT Hardware Direct Ltd £38.14
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Intel Pentium D 925 Processor 2 x 2 MB cache 3GHz CPU -925 OEM - Intel
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Sold £41.10
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Subtotal: £108.64

OR

1 x Foxconn Socket 775 Intel 64-bit Motherboard
1 x Intel Pentium D 925 Processor
1 x Intel Socket 775 Heat-Sink & Fan
TOTAL=£103.16

 

[IH8U]

Ok, the OEM processor is JUST the processor (no Heatsink/Fan). The retail has the CPU, and a heatsink+fan.

(if getting the OEM I reccomend the ZEROTherm Nirvana cooler)

 

[gamer383]

ooh thanks

am i right in thinking the 1st option will work out cheaper?
i could only find this cooler
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/zero-therm-cpu-cooler-lga-775_W0QQitemZ170191487763QQihZ007QQcategoryZ42001QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Dudeson]

Also i believe OEM has a lesser Warranty

 

[mi1ez]

I have a Pentium D and it's the hottest thing known to man! I would recomend trying to stretch a bit further to a core2, I can't wait to get rid of my Pentium D!

What will you be using the system for?

 

[gamer383]

id be using the system for MMORPGs, other CD intalation games and just random desktop stuff.But nothing too extreme

How much would a core 2 cost.Would it be better

 

[mi1ez]

you can get the pentium dual core (it's a core 2 essentially) for £35

http://www.eurowide-pc.co.uk/intel-pentium-dual-core-e2140-800fsb-skt775-retail-p-27874.html

 

[mi1ez]

or for £60-70, the actual core 2 duos with the benefit of extra cache

http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=intel+e4400&btnG=Search+Products&show=dd&brand=intel&lnk=brsugg

 

[CNeufeld]

If it was me, I'd try to find one of the Intel E21xx processors. I have no idea which sites are good in the UK, but from this site:
http://www.ciao.co.uk/CPUs_5302007_2-intel

you should be able to find an E2160 for about the same price.

Clint

 

[lunyone]

i got this set up i made with a 200£ budget..its not complete yet but i just wanted to know whats the difference between a OEM processor and a normal processor (is it just extra info?)
OR

1 x Foxconn Socket 775 Intel 64-bit Motherboard
1 x Intel Pentium D 925 Processor
1 x Intel Socket 775 Heat-Sink & Fan
TOTAL=£103.16

What are the parts that you need to complete your build? Are you transferring anything over to the new build or is the a total rebuild?

 

[cnumartyr]

or for £60-70, the actual core 2 duos with the benefit of extra cache

http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=intel+e4400&btnG=Search+Products&show=dd&brand=intel&lnk=brsugg

The extra cache only offers a 2-5% improvement in performance. It's not worth the extra money when on a tight budget.

E2160+Blood Iron+2GB Transcend DDR2-800.

Done and Done.

As was said, STAY WAY FROM PENTIUM D. It is based on the old Pentium 4 architecture and Core2 beats it hands down. The E21x0 line (even though it says Pentium Dual Core) is based on the Allendale Core. The Allendale core uses Core2 Logic with 2 MB of L2 Cache. Core2 Normally has 4 MB L2 Cache. Short story? It's a Core2 with 2 MB of Cache to start and the E21x0 line has 1 MB of that cache disabled.

 

[mi1ez]

Quite!

 

[gamer383]

ill be using my current screen,mouse cd/dvd and stuff like that ..just the main bits need changing

The £35 duel core link is dead

 

[mi1ez]

E2160 (1.8GHz):
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=e2160&oe=utf-8&brand=intel&lnk=brsugg

E2140 (1.6GHz):
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=e2140&btnG=Search+Products&show=dd

E2180 (2.0GHz):
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=e2180&btnG=Search+Products&show=dd

OK, I know that was a lazy way of posting prices but it works!

 

[evongugg]

Shop for a e2140 elsewhere or something similar.

mi1ez beat me to it.

 

[mi1ez]

 

[gamer383]

sorry to bug you but why is the pentium d a 3ghz duel core but cheaper than E2180 when it is a 2.0 GHz

Also, i read that everyone who gets the E2XXX OC it. If i was to do that would it still count as duel core
ie " I oc'd mine from 2GHz to 2.4GHz" Does that mean its running at 4.8GHz or 4.4GHz?

 

[mordenkhai]

Because the myth of "More GHz = Faster Performance" is finally dead. The Pentium D may be spinning its wheels faster via the Clock, but the Core 2 performs faster, gets things done faster without ramping the clock speed to a big number to trick you into purchasing it.

Disclaimer: I havent looked at benchmarks for an E21XX but my Core2 crushes my old Pentium even though I "lost" about 400MHz in clockspeed.

 

[dhvd79a]

sorry to bug you but why is the pentium d a 3ghz duel core but cheaper than E2180 when it is a 2.0 GHz

Also, i read that everyone who gets the E2XXX OC it. If i was to do that would it still count as duel core
ie " I oc'd mine from 2GHz to 2.4GHz" Does that mean its running at 4.8GHz or 4.4GHz?

The E2140 appears to be 15-35% faster in benchmarks than the 3Ghz pentium Ds. Go to Toms CPU benchmarks from the homepage. Clock speed is not the whole story. The E21xx are all faster at stock speeds the the fastest Pentium D plus cooler and, I believe, lower power consumption.

 

[cnumartyr]

sorry to bug you but why is the pentium d a 3ghz duel core but cheaper than E2180 when it is a 2.0 GHz

Also, i read that everyone who gets the E2XXX OC it. If i was to do that would it still count as duel core
ie " I oc'd mine from 2GHz to 2.4GHz" Does that mean its running at 4.8GHz or 4.4GHz?

It doesn't scale like that. Each core is running at 2 GHz or 2.4 GHz. It's not 2x2.4 GHz.

As was said, the Pentium D is not nearly as capable as the Pentium Dual Core (Core2). Core2 is so far above and beyond the Pentium 4 Architecture... it's not even comparable.

 

[gamer383]

E2180 Pentium 2.0GHz - Retail Cache: 1MB, FSB: 800MHz, Dual Core Processor
£52.66
ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 - Motherboard - micro ATX - i945GC - LGA775 Socket - UDMA100, Serial ATA-300 - Ethernet - video - High Definition Audio (6-channel)
£38.14
Corsair (VS2GBKIT667D2) 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 667MHz/PC2 5400 PC Memory non-ECC unbuffered CL5 - Lifetime Warranty - CORSAIR
£29.40
TOTAL=120.20

Remaining-
Case
GPU
PSU

edit-Is this mobo good?How long do you think this new build will last.
Im looking at a Antec TP3-550-GB Truepower Trio 550w Uk PSU for £30..is that alright and compatible?

 

[Hellboy]

E2180 Pentium 2.0GHz - Retail Cache: 1MB, FSB: 800MHz, Dual Core Processor
£52.66
ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 - Motherboard - micro ATX - i945GC - LGA775 Socket - UDMA100, Serial ATA-300 - Ethernet - video - High Definition Audio (6-channel)
£38.14
Corsair (VS2GBKIT667D2) 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 667MHz/PC2 5400 PC Memory non-ECC unbuffered CL5 - Lifetime Warranty - CORSAIR
£29.40
TOTAL=120.20

Remaining-
Case
GPU
PSU

edit-Is this mobo good?How long do you think this new build will last.
Im looking at a Antec TP3-550-GB Truepower Trio 550w Uk PSU for £30..is that alright and compatible?

Do you self a favour, if your going for a 945 mobo, dont choose the fox conn... foxconn make dell components

go for asus

if you could, go for a p35 motherboard as the chipset is newer and better

 

[gamer383]

an asus p35?

 

[Hellboy]

an asus p35?

yes the asus is a good board, the gigabyte models also are good

 

[gamer383]

oh theyre like double the price of my current board xD