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March 5, 2008 1:13:36 AM

I just installed easytune 5 for my EX38 board and it's so ugly - looks like it utlizies 256colors or something. Did I get the wrong version?

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March 5, 2008 3:14:07 AM

I don't know, but if you're planning on overclocking I would recommend that you do it in the BIOS. It's much better that way.
September 8, 2009 4:08:50 AM

I have EasyTune 6. All my parts are OC'able and I have an aftermarket cooler. So, if not EasyTune for OC'ing, how does one OC an i7 920 with the UD4P MOBO? I'm a complete noob to OC'ing; never done it before.
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September 8, 2009 11:46:08 AM

In the bios, there is a section called "advanced system settings" or something like that. What you are looking for is "CPU Multiplier". There will be an option to enable user set multiplier. Set this option to enable and change the CPU multiplier; keeping all other possible settings at auto (that way your board figures all the ratios out). It will tell you what the clockspeed will be with your multiplier. Save and exit BIOS (F10, Yes) to enable your settings. If the computer does not boot, or resets soon after boot, you probably pushed it too hard :-P

That board will allow you to push the CPU multiplier up a huge amount (a similar board for 775 socket allowed me to set a multiplier resulting in 15GHz from a 2.93Ghz dual core!) so safest to change in small amounts (0.1Ghz steps and 0.05GHz steps if you are nearing the tipping point of crashing). I am running a 775 2.66GHz dual core at 3.2GHz with no heat issues on the standard heatsink, but I am unsure of the i7's heat generation.
Have fun,
Stecman.
September 8, 2009 2:50:38 PM

Thanks for all the info gentlemen. Im definitely not looking for crazy amounts of boosting. The CPU is about 2.67 Ghz. I'd like to get into perhaps 3 Gz flat.
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 8, 2009 4:04:46 PM

Give me a day or two, and I can work up a 'canned' OC for you - have been defunct for a couple days here, as have been re-assembling the engine in my dad's truck - had it down to the heads & block; also, need some time for a couple win7 re-installs...

Bill
September 8, 2009 4:20:19 PM

bilbat said:
Give me a day or two, and I can work up a 'canned' OC for you - have been defunct for a couple days here, as have been re-assembling the engine in my dad's truck - had it down to the heads & block; also, need some time for a couple win7 re-installs...

Bill



Bill that would be aces man :bounce:  Thanks so much!

I'll check back in, in a couple of days
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 9, 2009 3:49:22 PM

Going to need manufacturer and part number for your RAM... And, one more question - do you know how to do a BIOS flash? If not, I'll post a tutorial - and that will require knowing whether or not you have a floppy drive installed?
September 9, 2009 7:14:23 PM

bilbat said:
Going to need manufacturer and part number for your RAM... And, one more question - do you know how to do a BIOS flash? If not, I'll post a tutorial - and that will require knowing whether or not you have a floppy drive installed?


Sure, the RAm is Kingston Hyper X DDR3/1600Mhz PC3 10700G (667Mhz) (2GBx3)
P.#: 9905403-048.A00LF

I have done a BIOS flash before, so I'm like 70% confident about it.

And, no floppy installed.

Thanks

EDIT: corrected part number
September 9, 2009 7:35:27 PM

Made some corrections. The above info is now correct
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 10, 2009 12:12:43 AM

Ahhh - as usual, I'm not finding anything from Kingston even close to that - don't worry, it's happened (lots of times) before - do you see anything anywhere that is in anything close to this format?
KHX1333C7D3K3/3GX
KHX1600C8D3K3/3GX
I see a couple 8-8-8-24 modules, and a lot of 9-9-9-27 modules, but not a 9-9-9-24:
http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/products/khx_ddr3.asp
September 10, 2009 8:36:03 PM

bilbat said:
Ahhh - as usual, I'm not finding anything from Kingston even close to that - don't worry, it's happened (lots of times) before - do you see anything anywhere that is in anything close to this format?
KHX1333C7D3K3/3GX
KHX1600C8D3K3/3GX
I see a couple 8-8-8-24 modules, and a lot of 9-9-9-27 modules, but not a 9-9-9-24:
http://www.kingston.com/hyperx/products/khx_ddr3.asp


Ya know it's funny, I had one of those numbers up then thought I was "correcting" it by using that number instead lol

I think this is the number. Goin on the specs, etc.:
KHX12800D3LLK3/6GX.

I'm using Newegg to track down my parts. Newegg is confusing, and since I had this built for me, it's difficult pin pointing the exact one. But this seems like it's gota be it.
a b V Motherboard
September 10, 2009 10:02:45 PM

^Download CPUZ then save a validation file upload the validation file and give us the link of the validation.
September 13, 2009 3:07:32 AM

Hey, hi Bill just checkin in to see about my specific OC instructions. Also I was wondering, could I just use the Gigabyte instructions with lower settings? Would that work too?
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 15, 2009 4:21:37 PM

OMG - I humbly apologize! I've been terribly busy, and simply forgot this - comes with old age :sleep: 
Doing i7 research today anyways (new P55 MOBOs and P55 specs- will try to whip something up posthaste...
September 15, 2009 5:23:51 PM

bilbat said:
OMG - I humbly apologize! I've been terribly busy, and simply forgot this - comes with old age :sleep: 
Doing i7 research today anyways (new P55 MOBOs and P55 specs- will try to whip something up posthaste...


ahah, hey no problem man. I am eager, but good things come to those who wait :) 
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 16, 2009 2:15:46 AM

Got one more question before I start to 'stir up' the numbers; what are you using for cooling? Both CPU and case, please?
September 16, 2009 3:25:22 PM

bilbat said:
Got one more question before I start to 'stir up' the numbers; what are you using for cooling? Both CPU and case, please?


Hi Bill, here's some more info on cooling and then some:

- 2 Case fans
- Thermal compound paste
- XtremeGear Ultra Triple Heatpipes Cool Copper Heatsink, Extreme Silent at 20dBA & Overclock Proof
- Pwrsupply: Corsair Power Supplies 650 Watts CMPSU-650TX
- Vid: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT 512MB


I mess around with audio production, so it's not for gaming or anything.

Thanks!
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 16, 2009 4:12:30 PM

OK - you gots cooling! Here we go:

GA-EX58-UD4P
Intel i7-920 x20mult 2.666GHz .80-1.375V OC to 3.4GHz
Kingston KHX12800D3LLK3/6GX (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3-12800: 8-8-8-24(20?)-1t 1.65v

If you haven't yet done it, pull out two sticks, start with a BIOS' "Load Optimized Defaults"

Before we start ramping things up, I want to teach you a new skill involving the BIOS: Do the <DEL> at the boot to enter the BIOS; notice, at the bottom, the <F11> "Save CMOS to BIOS" - hit this, and you should get a menu that will show a number (the count varies by BIOS) of empty 'slots', each of which will store an entire set of BIOS parameters, to be re-loaded from the corresponding <F12> "Load CMOS from BIOS"; this is a wonderful overclocker's feature. What I do with it, is to save my 'baseline' working parameters, so if I change something that 'irritates' the board, and forces a reset of all the parameters to defaults, or, even worse, get so screwed up I need to do a 'clear CMOS', I can get back to my starting point with no effort, and without having to remember 85 separate settings! Another thing it prevents is two hours' troubleshooting, having forgotten a change to a crucial parameter - like, "wait a minute - didn't I have the Trd at seven?!" It's pretty self-explanatory, and I alway urge people to start right away by taking the time to give the 'slots' names that mean something: in two hours, "Try2" and "Try3" will not be very helpful, but "450@+10MCH" and "450@+15MCH" will! Another use is for 'green' settings; overclocks, as a rule, do not 'play well' with green features, such as 'down-clocking' and 'down-volting'; with the storage slots, you can set up one profile, say "Green", with all the settings at 'stock' values, and all the 'green' features
enabled; another, say "Balls2Wall" with a full overclock, and all the 'green' stuff turned off... Another neat feature of this 'slot' system is, for most BIOS, the mechanism itself will keep track of which ones have booted successfully, and how many times (up to, I believe, a max of five)!


On the "MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)" page:

"CPU Clock Ratio" to "20x"
"CPU Frequency" - this one can't be set, it's calculated, and will change when we set the next few items...

On the "Advanced CPU Features" sub-page:

"Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech" to "Enabled"
"CPU Cores Enabled" to "All"
"CPU Multi Threading" to "Enabled"
"CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)" to "Disabled"
"C3/C6/C7 State Support" to "Disabled"
"CPU Thermal Monitor" to "Enabled"
"CPU EIST Function" to "Disabled"
"Virtualization Technology" to "Enabled" - this allows use of Win7's fantastic VirtualXp feature...
"Bi-Directional PROCHOT" to "Enabled"

On the "Uncore & QPI Features" sub-page:

"QPI Link Speed" to "x36" (may 'bump' to x44 later...)
Uncore Frequency" to "20" (may 'bump' to x22 later...)
Isonchronous Frequency" to "Enabled"

On the "Advanced Clock Control" sub-page:

>>>>>Standard Clock Control<<<<<
"Base Clock (BCLK) Control" to "Enabled"
"BCLK Frequency (MHz)" to "160"
"PCI Express Frequency (MHz)" to "101" (not auto)
"C.I.A.2" to "Disabled"
>>>>>Advanced Clock Control<<<<<
"CPU Clock Drive" to "800mV"
"PCI Express Clock Drive" to "900mV"
"CPU Clock Skew" to "0ps"
"IOH Clock Skew" to "0ps"

On the "Advanced DRAM Features" sub-page:

"Performance Enhance" to "Standard"
"Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P)" to "Disabled"
"System Memory Multiplier (SPD)" to "10x"
"DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)" to "Manual"

>>>>>Channel A/B/C Timing Settings: (all the same)

>>>>>Channel A Standard Timing Control:
"CAS Latency Time" to "8"
"tRCD" to "8"
"tRP" to "8"
"tRAS" to "24" (may 'bump down' to 20 later... Indication:
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1602&pageID=7099
is that RAM's EPP says 8-8-8-20 rather than rated 8-8-8-24)


Italicized values should be good in auto after "Load Optimized Defaults"; have put in some 'check me' values [I'm uncertain yet about some -

please post back with your 'auto's], but to start, leave in auto...

>>>>>Channel A Advanced Timing Control:
"tRC" to "36"
"tRRD" to "5"
"tWTR" to "6?"
"tWR" to "12"
"tWTP" to "24?"
"tWL" to "7"
"tRFC" to "88"
"tRTP" to "8"
"tFAW" to "??"
"Command Rate (CMD)" to "1T"
>>>>>Channel A Misc Timing Control
"Round Trip" to "??"



On the "Advanced Voltage Control" sub-page:

>>>CPU
"Load Line Calibration" to "Disabled"(this works differently on different boards - on mine, it's worse "enabled" than "disabled" - the function is supposed to cure a phenomenon called Vdroop - the CPU voltage regulation circuit causes the CPU core voltage to sag, or 'droop' under high loadings; hopefully, we're going to be at a low enough voltage to just ignore this...)
"CPU Vcore" to "1.35"
"QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v" to "1.374" May need to bump for stability
"CPU PLL 1.800v" to "Auto"

>>>MCH/ICH
"PCIE 1.500v" to "1.5"
"QPI PLL 1.100v" to "1.2"
"IOH Core 1.100v" to "1.2"
"ICH I/O 1.500v" to "1.5"
"ICH Core 1.1v" to "1.2"

>>>DRAM
"DRAM Voltage 1.500v" to "1.66"
"DRAM Termination 0.750v" to "Auto"
"Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v" to "Auto"
"Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v" to "Auto"
"Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v" to "Auto"
"Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v" to "Auto"
"Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v" to "Auto"
"Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v" to "Auto"


On the "Integrated Peripherals" page:

"USB Storage Function" to "Disabled"

And that should do it!

I should point out that getting two reboots in a row here is perfectly normal behavior; it seems that, when you change certain settings (and we don't exactly know which ones - the only sure one I know is Trd - if you change it, I think you get the 'twin' reboot) it boots once to 'see where it's at', recalculates its remaining 'auto' settings, saves them, and then boots again. Three reboots in a row, however, usually indicates that the board was 'given indigestion' by your settings, and is going back to defaults. This sometimes goes astray, and it doesn't get back into proper operation - for example, at this point, mine will sometimes 'lock' itself into 111MHz x a six multiplier - and take a week to do a whole boot - that's time to do a CMOS reset, and use your 'stored' <F12> profile to get back to where you were...

Good luck!

Bill
September 16, 2009 11:55:35 PM

Hi Bill! Wow, I need a little time to absorb this. But I had a question first, may be a dumb one but I just want to make sure. I noticed you typed Intel 8400, where as I'm using the i7 920. Am I missing something or was that just a typo?
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 17, 2009 1:00:46 AM

I swear to god, I vividly remember 'typing over' one of my standard OC headers (I save these for reposts - they sometimes come in handy...); I wonder where I was typing it?!? Now, I gotta open my E8400 OC file, and see if it's now entitled i7 (maybe I didn't save it, I was just stealing from it) :o 
September 17, 2009 1:33:56 PM

Well, sadly now I have to resort to trying to fix a software problem before I can try any of this wonderful OC instruction. I posted over in Vista discussion. For the life of me I can't figure out why my software is doing this.

I use my comp for audio work. I've been running my audio prog for about 3 weeks now, blazing, no issues, nothing, couldnt be happier. Now, I tried to update to the new version of my software and I get this error msg: DLL/0CX

Anyway, this system as you know is a new i7 920 and everything's been running great on it. What's the deal with this?
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 17, 2009 1:53:21 PM

Download and run this: http://www.mediafire.com/?qm3ozdnqzwn - it will take a while...
It will build a vslogs.cab file in C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp; if it's under a meg or two, email it to me as an attachment (bilbat@wi.rr.com); if bigger, upload the file to someplace like MediaFire or RapidShare - post a pointer to me, and I will give you an idea, at least, of where things are starting to go haywire...
September 17, 2009 6:11:53 PM

bilbat said:
Download and run this: http://www.mediafire.com/?qm3ozdnqzwn - it will take a while...
It will build a vslogs.cab file in C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp; if it's under a meg or two, email it to me as an attachment (bilbat@wi.rr.com); if bigger, upload the file to someplace like MediaFire or RapidShare - post a pointer to me, and I will give you an idea, at least, of where things are starting to go haywire...


Thanks again so much Bill for being helpful. I emailed you with a zip of the vslog, it's like 900 Kb, so not too big at all.

p.s arent you worried about spam publishing the email addy like that? :o 
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 17, 2009 6:26:14 PM

Hasn't been a problem yet... People are pretty respectful; I do get an occasional problem they're hesitant to post publicly, but no strange stuff so far!
September 17, 2009 6:35:46 PM

bilbat said:
Hasn't been a problem yet... People are pretty respectful; I do get an occasional problem they're hesitant to post publicly, but no strange stuff so far!


Good to hear then!
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 17, 2009 6:37:46 PM

Can you post it at MediaFire or RapidShare? My idiot AV swallowed it whole, just because it's a 'packed' file!!
September 17, 2009 6:46:59 PM

bilbat said:
Can you post it at MediaFire or RapidShare? My idiot AV swallowed it whole, just because it's a 'packed' file!!


no prob...PM sent
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 17, 2009 11:25:33 PM

I've got it - this will take a bit of time - there's a lot to scan!
September 18, 2009 12:52:57 AM

bilbat said:
I've got it - this will take a bit of time - there's a lot to scan!



Bill, I got it! I solved it! Man I hope you aren't goin thru it for nothin. Check your PM
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 18, 2009 1:29:13 AM

Got a question here... Do you have PhysX installed? Does it have a control panel item? Does it appear to operate correctly?
September 23, 2009 4:09:11 PM

bilbat said:
Got a question here... Do you have PhysX installed? Does it have a control panel item? Does it appear to operate correctly?



Hey Bill, well I had quite the adventure with tiny issues here and there with weird error msgs, but got them all worked out now. What is PhysX exactly? Forgive my ignorance...
a c 177 V Motherboard
September 23, 2009 11:35:20 PM

PhysX (often reffered to by its disappointed proponents as 'fizzled') is a noble idea with a somewhat scrambled implemetation - it's an attempt to put actual physics - gravity, mass, and acceleration/deacceleration based on their combination into objects in games - so that if you, say, drive a car through a brick wall, each brick acquires a separate velocity, based on the direction and relative location of your impact, and then falls 'naturally', interacting with and bouncing off every other tumbling brick just like it would in the 'real world'! (Is it real, or is it The Matrix???) It's, at heart, a driver, made to offload these massively parallel computations to a naturally massively parallel processor - a graphics card! There is also a card made by, I think, a company called AGEIA (or something near that), that seems to incur its own problems, driverwise. It's (I think) an nVidia concept, and lets you run a cluster of graphics cards, interconnected, handing-off the graphics and physics computations to each other on an 'as-available' basis...

It's a noble idea, and some of the demos (when they work right) are very impressive, but, as I said, there appear to be a lot of problems in the actual implementation. Sometimes a driver rev will fix a problem, and introduce another; sometimes, the original problem will remain, and the rev will cause two new ones! Humans (though, at root, we appear to, ourselves, be massively parallel processors) seem to be having a lot of problems with the basic underlying concept of parallel operation. I know Windoze seems to be a 'parallel operator', but - at its heart, it is actually a serial 'time-slicing' multiplexer - you write a program that launches a thread, and, although the thread may be stopped, interrupted by another, and restarted fast enough to look like it's multi-processing, you can expect the thread to chug along, letting you expect some process to 'get done', and present you its results. Though there are a lot really good parallel tools evolving (Intel has an excellent VisualStudio add-in, specifically aimed at their multi-cored CPUs), it seems to be a peculiarly slippery concept to grasp for most 'already taught' programmers; my guess is that, for the most part, there will be a 'generational divide'; kids growing up and acquiring skills and tools today will think in fundamentally different ways about the underlying design of programs... I really believe programmers are 'canalized' by their first, or perhaps, favorite programming language - much as our basic thought systems appear to be somewhat shaped by our 'milk language' - some syntactic elements appear to be 'hard-wired' into our brains, and shared in every language; some are 'peculiar' to the language we learned as children; even if you can read Latin, and speak French, Spanish, and Mandarin, you still do your 'basic thinking' in English - and always will!

I guess I'm meandering about this as I believe that efficient use of parallel resources is key to our continuing conquest of computing speed. Though Moore's law is in no way threatened for at least the next five or six generations of silicon, it appears, barring some fundamental new discovery in junction makeup, that all the growth from here on out will be along the density path; litho processes will continue to get smaller, allowing more and more junctions per square millimeter (meaning more and more cores per processing unit), but I think 4-5GHz will remain a fundamental limit for some time, as we've gotten to the point where 'much faster' means molten silicon! (If ou'd like to see an interesting response to this, take a peek here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23...
and admire the liquid nitrogen pot cooler!) So, it would seem critically necessary for us to learn to take advantage of parallel power, as opposed to raw serial execution speed - it's the 'wave of the future'!

Anyhow, to get back to my question, some cues in the set of log files I looked at, compared with other posted dissections, suggested that there might be a problem there with PhysX, if it were installed (it's sometimes 'pushed in' by installation of games that are written to take advantage of it), and that often these problems will present themselves as well, as peculiarities visible in its control panel tool... So that's why I asked :whistle: 
!