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January 26, 2008 12:24:53 AM

I hope to be building a new computer pretty soon and this is my first time building one too, so I hope you guys can help me out a bit. I plan on gaming mostly, but I don't have enough money in my budget to buy a new graphics card some I'm sticking with my 7600GT till I have enough to go out and get a new card. But here is what I have so far

Case
Antec Nine Hundred

Mother Board
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R

Power Supply
CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX ATX12V V2.2 550W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817139004

CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale

RAM
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2

HDD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148262

Optical Drive
SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner

OS
Microsoft Windows XP Home With SP2B 1 Pack - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16832116056

CPU Cooler
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED

I already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and a video card. Also I want to be able to overclock this processor a bit since I see that a lot of other people can OC it fairly easily and a bunch too. Will the Zalman 9700 work good enough or should I get something else besides that? Thanks for the input guys.

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January 26, 2008 12:41:09 AM

First off, what's your budget? That'll help a lot when people are trying to recommend parts.

Not sure if there is a specific reason you chose the DS3R MoBo, but the DS3L is cheaper and just as good.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

Depending on which DS3R you were looking at, the DS3L will save you either $25 or $60.

If you change your mind on wanting to OC, this A-Data set will save you a bit out of pocket, but it would be about the same with the rebates on both this set and the Corsair. Maybe saving that $25 out of pocket for the RAM and the $25/60 on the MoBo will let you get a new video card? If you can squeeze about $170-180 from somewhere, you can get a 3850 GPU.

I would also say that PSU is overkill, but if you are planning on saving up more and picking up much higher end GPU and/or multiple HDD's/Optical Drives/RAM in the future, it's not a bad idea to futureproof yourself with the one you picked. If not, then you can bring it down to a good 450/500W PSU for cheaper. The Antec Earthwatts 500W is about $35 after rebate and instant promo code that you can find online. I'll try to find it if you're interested.
January 26, 2008 1:39:40 AM

My budget is is in the $800 to $900 range and when I get everything one my list now, it comes out to $903.94 all of it coming from newegg. I chose the DS3R because it said it supported 45nm tech and thats what the E8400 is a 45nm processor . Also if I chose to switch motherboards I will have to get a different type of RAM because it says it doesn't support DDR2 800 in the specs it shows that it supports DDR2 1066, and A-Data doesn't make a DDR2 1066 that they sell on newegg. Or does this board actually support DDR2 RAM as well? Yeah I hope to get a 8800GT or something like that sometime this year, so I thought I should get a good power supply so I don't mess anything up inside.
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January 26, 2008 3:56:15 AM

You don't have to worry about the RAM. DDR2 800 will run fine on the DS3L and that MoBo will work with the E8400. Probably won't even have to do a BIOS update.

If you get the DS3L for $100 and the A-Data RAM for $50, that might give you enough leverage to get the 8800GT, which is down to $240 now. (Damn it) But there is an XFX card on NewEgg for $250 that comes with Company of Heroes. An awesome strategy game that you would love if you like RTS's and/or WW2 games.

Stick with the HDD you picked, that Seagate is the best one for the price. Even Tom's Benchmarks show it at just under the highest HDD's in terms of performance.

If you are really set on Corsair for RAM, I would get these Crucial sticks instead. Same price out of pocket but better choice for OC'ing.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565

If you only plan to OC a little bit, I wouldn't bother with an extra cooler. The stock cooler would be fine especially since the E8400 runs at low temps. If you want to OC close to 4GHz and up then you would want to get one though.
January 26, 2008 10:19:13 AM

CPU Stock fan will do fine for overclocking. I save way more money shopping from www.pricegrabber.com than newegg (pricegrabber finds you the cheapest prices). I configure you a good setup including video card. Hopefully you have a monitor supports resolution 1600x or higher to take advantage of this video card if not I recommend ATI 3850.
the prices listed you see here in each hardware are final prices including tax and shipping. This is the performance you will have if u sacrifice case for a cheaper one, or use your old system case. performance is more important than fancy cases.


Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor $215.99
eVGA GeForce 8800 GT 512mb Video Card $262.48
GigaByte GA-P35-DS3L Motherboard $104.93
Corsair VX 550W Power Supply $89.84
Patriot Memory 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit$73.19
Hitachi Deskstar T7K500 HDT725025VLA380 250GB Hard Drive $67.00
Pioneer DVR-112D Dual Layer DVD±RW Writer $35.71
Cooler Master CAC-T05UW Centurion 5 Black/Silver Midsize Tower $49.99

MSI Radeon HD 3850 Video Card $186 (optional)

including tax/shipping $899.13 w nvidia - All from pricegrabber.com

including tax/shipping $823.13 w/ati - All from pricegrabber.com
January 26, 2008 3:01:45 PM

Nice build, with either the 8800 or the 3850. And those aren't bad prices either.

Only thing is you can get a number of those parts cheaper on NewEgg, which has the 8800GT for $22 less for example. Always a good idea to shop around, just remember to take shipping into consideration. NewEgg usually has much cheaper shipping than most sites and usually Free Shipping on most parts too. You might save $5 on the E8400, but if that site charges $10 shipping then you are paying more than you would on NewEgg.

Don't get me wrong, those are good prices and NewEgg isn't always the cheapest, but in some cases it is. I usually just use google shopping to find the lowest prices, since it finds prices from a bunch of sites like pricegrabber does, and then I can figure out if it would be the same price or not to get it from NewEgg.

After all, saving a few bucks on a part but then paying more for shipping doesn't save you any cash.

I think the OP would be happy with that build though, and I much like the Centurion case more than the Nine Hundred. The 900 is just too huge and bulky for my taste, plus the Centurion is much cheaper. :D 
January 26, 2008 5:47:15 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. I have further changed some of the parts ie

I put the 8800GT

CORSAIR XMS2 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800(Since Vista is such a resource hog)

Switched the mobo to the DS3L

Got Vista 64 Bit Home Premium(Might as well since I'm getting the 8800GT)

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro

Also the case to the Cooler Master
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