Hello everyone, what do you think is the best graphics cards to buy for playing in resolution 1280x 1024 with high AA/AF. I am currently looking to buy a new graphics cards and got my selection down to 3 cards:

ATI 3870 512MB - around £140,
8800GT 512MB, - around £160
8800GTS 512MB. - around £200

Value for money is also a matter, i know 8800GTS 512mb is the best card in the list but is there a big different in performance in that resolution? Which card would you guys recommand to buy? The games i want to play are oblivion, Half life, World in Conflict and the new games that are coming out.
Thanks

8800 series are better with AA performance. 3870 are horrible although it has option for 24xAA.

You can probably get away with most games at 8-16xAA with 8800gt while 3870 will give you 4xAA at that resolution.

Hi maxryan
I thought this was one of the better reviews covering these cards http://www.extremetech.com/article [...] 55,00.asp.
The sweet spot seems to be the 8800GT when value for money cames into it i dont think the extra £40 is worth the performance you will get especially at the res you will be using. The 3870 while still a good card is still suffering from ATI's AA problems that plagued the 2000 series.
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For such low resolutions though you can't go wrong with whatever is cheapest. Graphic difference would be minimum.

I would go with 3850 512meg version and overclock to 3870 levels and save yourself some money.

If you want to play Crysis all on high, get the 8800GTS 512MB.

You can do that with 3850. The guy is on a 1280x1024 monitor.

I disagree. All high settings including AA and AF? You'll only get around 30FPS, which imo isn't enough for a FPS.

The fact is I want to play games with all the eye candy and with smooth FPS, I would like AA/AF to be on, but they don't have to be MAX OUT. Would want a card that would allow me to play furture games in High setting too. Never thought of 3850 as an option....didn't think it could match up with the big boys 3870, 8800

If he doesn't play with "normal" AA in crysis then I see no reason why he can't play at 1280x1024 all on high. My x1950 pro can do those settings at around 20-23FPS and it is a far slower card. If worst comes to worst, he can tweak the individual console commands to get things just right. There is always Edge AA if he really needs AA. I can't say it looks great though, since it blurs rather than adding extra samples.

But 30fps is definitely enough for Crysis unless you are playing online for competitive edge.

Why would you waste bandwidth on jaggies in a game like Crysis? AA is bandwidth killer and uses most bandwidth for such negligible effect. Why not have the highest in game settings first then set your filters?

Ha but you've mistaken. 3850 is nothing more than underclocked 3870. You can easily match 3870 speed with a 3850 long as you get the 512meg version.

But you can't exceed 3870 speed as much as you can with a 3870

While many people consider 30fps smooth, some do not. Also the most important is the min. fps, not the avg. If you're getting 30fps, that means there's probably a spot where you took a dip to the low 20s or perhaps lower.

And thus I recommend getting the 8800GTS 512MB, even for the resolution of 1280 x 1024. One thing that prevents me from recommending the 8800GT is the cooler. The 8800GTS's superior cooling allows less noise as well as better OC potential. I've seen people hit 800 core clock on the stock cooler on the 8800GTS while the 8800GT could only do a measly 720 before getting too hot.

Volt-mod?

You can volt mod a 3870 too, and if the chip is binned higher than the 3850s chip which do you think will go higher? Of course, you need to shell out more money, but in Australia there is only a $30-40 difference anyway I think.

The 3850 of course. Duh.



Yeah I know what you mean.

8800gts(G92) is better then the 8800gt, 3870, 3850 hands down but, we are talking about 1280 x 1024 here and on a budget which IMO the extra $100-150 ($350 vs. sub $250) is a bit expensive. Most high end - mid range cards at that resolution should be smooth enough to play games well except on Crysis. I would personally get the Gigabyte 3870 512mb ddr3, it's cheaper then the 3870 512mb ddr4 but better then the 3850 512mb ddr3 for a budget gaming card.

For anyone playing at a higher resolution like 1680 x 1050 or 1920 x 1080, I would then consider the 8800gts(G92) or the 3870x2.

Refer to Link - check resolution 1280 x 1024 - these cards are usually at the 50-60 fps ranges which I believe in most peoples books is playable.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/1 [...] ce_roundup

Links to card prices.
3870x2 2*512mb ddr3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102723

8800gts(g92) 512mb ddr3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130312

8800gt 512mb ddr3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130319

3870 512mb ddr4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102719

3870 512mb ddr3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125086

3850 512mb ddr3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102715


Sorry for this big post. I believe in the end you will find the right card that will match your budget good luck.

I finished crysis from start to finish with only 29fps average. While not the fastest fps I could easily handle Crysis with only 30fps because the way Crysis was never meant to be a fast paced. It would handle low fps with post processing effects while other fps I would need at least 40-50fps depending on the game.

8800gt is good and all but it comes down to bang for buck for most people especially guys who's running such low resolution. 8800gt is overkill if you are on a budget.

Yeah for whatever reason, Crysis is really tolerable at 30FPS, where as Call of Duty 4 at anything lower than 60FPS is very annoying. I guess it has something to do with the motion blur and the way it handles processing the frames. Plus it looks amazing.