Well Im thinking about building a new computer and dont really want to go over 600 but I found this build for 68 shipped and wondered if it would be the best bang for my buck. The main thing is that I want it to be able to last me the longest time possible and be able to play stuff on mostly high. Uses would be everything including games.
Specs: AMD Athlon X2 5000+
Nvidia GeForce 8800gt 512mb Factory Oced with some quad copper cooling pipes
AM2/AM2+ Motherboard
2GB Patriot performance DDR2 Ram
250gb SATA 3.0GB/s HDD
Dual Layer DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106073
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u'll be able to game with that. should last you for a little while. but the way technology changes who knows how long it'll last.
can anyone check and make sure its will be all compatible?
Looks fantastic to me. You might think about a better power supply though. Not more watts, better quality. Especially if you'll be overclocking. I'm not familiar with the quality of raidmax but it never hurts to spring for a really good powersupply. Its arguably the most important part of the entire computer.
ok right now going with AMD is not a good choice, in fact with the 45nm (wolfdale) breed of Intel chips out the gap between companies has never been bigger. and the athlon series is almost dead so this wont last long at all
So instead i would go with a E8200 it a cheap 45Nm chip with will slam that 5000 into the ground (failing a e8200 get a e4550 and upgrade later) . and match it with a nice 35 or 38 motherboard from the like of Asus or gigabyte/
your graphics card is a great choice, although i like active cooling ot 'silent' passive cooling as they overclock better but really if your not OC'ing you might as well go with the silent option.
make sure your DVD burner is SATA, although there isn't much performance difference, they are much nicer cable to work with. and a better system. it also mean you can kick the IDE interface.
RAM seam fine, although i would use Corsair again just a matter of preference.in DDR 2 it so cheap with little between brands so its what ever your happiest with
these day people pile on load of Gb to there HDD but i reccon 250Gb is sufice.
and dont forget a nice PSU (500w+) and a good (prefably Alu) Atx case
hope this helps
Alright um about the power supply I was thinking that too but I read reviews of that on newegg (case w/ psu is 5/5 eggs thats rare) I also have a friend with the same case and his psu has been doing fine but If I didnt want to spend more money you think that the psu would handle it?
it is all compatible but i would still go with Intel. (any day) you could game on it but that CPU will bottleneck that thing so much
i always go with branded PSU like seasonic, Akasa, Hiper, ect
but if your a budget as long as it above 450 you should be fine
so does your budget stretch intel?
Yeah thats the thing if I went intel it would be like 75 bucks more and I know I can upgrade my processor thats why I got the am2/am2+ because am2+ just came out and is the newest socket
e4600 (better than 5000x2)
http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/Sho [...] 6819115032
p35 MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813135059
much better options
PS: im not from the US, but your American shopping site are really confusing to navigate
AM2 been out for a while at least when you upgrade a p35 you can upgrade to something better. you will be able to get something like a quad core 45Nm chip running on that broad if you wanted to and its cheap.
just look back at some of the THG articles (or CPU chart) and you will see how far AMD are lagging.
well my video card is pci-e 2.0 and a motherboard for that is more than 60 dollars like I said im going to update when amd comes out with a quad core at a value
dude am2+ just came out bro
i dont knoiw about the '+' but the AM2 has been around a while.
pci ex 2.0 and 1 are backwards are forward compatible and it doesnt make a huge difference, see the THG article.
im not trying to put AMD down you just going to waste money. admittedly it wont be slow, but it could be 2x as fast
Well will it run games on highest settings like crysis?
oh yeah the + is the new socket they made for the quad cores and i guess im pretyty much amd for life idk why ive had good experiences with one and bad with the other they might be better now but idk
Quake IV
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] 33&chart=4
prey
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=425
Supreme comander
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=421
they didn't have a e4600 but they have a 6400 they are too different. (i think the 4600 is better?)
these real world, game benchmarks arnt lying, Intel is faster in all they games.
dude i just checked those and comparing a 100 dollar processor to a 200 dollar processor the amd even won in some categories
Quake IV
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=424
prey
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=425
Supreme comander
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=421
that is comparing that processor to one that is 45 dollars less the x2 6000+ and the 6000+ blows it away in ever test
| skilzdatkilz2 wrote : Well will it run games on highest settings like crysis? |
LOL no, it won't run Crysis at max settings, unless you like viewing slideshows instead of actually playing the game.
| skilzdatkilz2 wrote : Quake IV
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Umm, why are you comparing an X2 6000+ to a E6400? It's been discontinued for about 12 months already, in case you didn't know.
Nowadays you can get faster and cheaper Intel CPUs, but whatever, you probably don't wanna hear it, so I won't waste your time.
I HAVE NO IDEA I THOUGH I WAS DOING THE 5000, any that reinforces the point as the 500 is even worse
after some investigation the linking to the CPU isnt 100% accurate with the link for some reason it doesn't choose the one i choose? odd, but i meant the 5000, which are consistently worse.
yeah and 100 dollars less is i wanted to spend 100 dollars more its not the best to compare something for 200 dollars to something 100 dollars
i have looked and looked and cant find a intel cpu for 100 dollars better than my 5000+
@skilzdatkilz2
Are you planning to OC?
You can oc the balls off of the 5000+ black so if you're talking price/performance the 5000+ wins. If you're talking straight up raw performance then yes, intel would win. But the 5000+ is still a really good deal.
@skilzdatkilz2
The reason why I ask, is if your not going to OC, then you shouldn't get the B/E 5000+. It doesn't come with a heat sink, and it has an unlock multiplier that is designed for it.
If your really wanting to use AMD, go with : AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor
It comes with a stock HS, and is basically the fastest CPU they offer, and you wouldn't have to worry about OC at all.
Edit:
And, heh, I didn't see a HS listed for parts.
Well I guess I'm going to need to order a fan/heat sink. What would you recommend while staying at a low price? I really didn't want to have to spend more but I will have to. I already ordered these parts 2 days ago so the fan/ heat sink will come 2 days after all the other. Is it not safe to turn it on without the fan? I have a decent fan for a socket 754/939/940 will that fit on there?
socket 754/939/940 doesn't = am2 so they won't work.
depends on what price range you're looking at. The tuniq tower 120 is popular as is the zalman 9700. those are on the expensive side but they are among the best. if you're looking for cheap, i'd go the arctic cooling 64 pro route.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185125
The best bang for your buck I think is at www.tigerdirect.com barebone kits.
| skilzdatkilz2 wrote : Well Im thinking about building a new computer and dont really want to go over 600 but I found this build for 68 shipped and wondered if it would be the best bang for my buck. The main thing is that I want it to be able to last me the longest time possible and be able to play stuff on mostly high. Uses would be everything including games. |
Personally I am a bit of an AMD fanboi but I think an Intel rig might realistically be a better option these days if you want to do a bit of gaming. PCIe 2.0 is nothing (1-2% performance difference - within margin of error). Get one of the now bumped down 65nm Core 2's with heatsink:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115014
With a decent case (RE airflow - see below) that CPU will overclock to 3.5Ghz or so... At that level and with a 2Mb cache AMD Athlon 64's are left in the dust. For a new build AMD is a waste of money...
That case is rubbish. If you look at the airflow... Well there isn't enough!! 80mm fans do not shift enough air... Your 8800GT will quietly cook in that case (notice it blows air out all around it - mainly right back into the case!!)
Also check out the "camouflaged" Newegg negative reviews for the case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] alse&Page=
If you have to budget yourself on the case get something like:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146041
You want a better PSU!! Corsair, Hyper, Antec... Anything but that piece of Raidmax crap!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371006
You will notice has very few negative reviews on Newegg and this PSU is very efficient (has the 80 PLUS certification).
Spend less than this and you system is liable to have lots of bad days and give you a high electricity bill!
Get a 8800GTS
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For aircooling it is the better choice as air is drawn from the case over the heatsink and exhausted at the back of the case.
The price difference is very small now for the improved cooling and gaming performance. With EVGA you also get the Step-up program to upgrade to a better GPU within 90 days.
Bob
Its a good short term build but thats all, you will want to upgrade pretty quickly to at least a phenom the new ones when they come out. Why not get a 775 board with a core 2 duo comparable to the 5000??? It will probably be faster and not that much more expensive.
It's a bit ridiculous to expect to get a high end PC for $600, but what I would do for now is get some good basics. Make your motherboard future-proof and leave room for expandability.
You didn't even include your OS, if I'm right.
I got a copy of windows xp and the am2+ is the newest socket so it would be terrible to turn it on without a fan on the cpu?
That'll be nice you get the x2 5000BE and a acrtic 64 pro fan
would the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] rtic%2bfan
be good?
Throw down 7 more dollars and get the 'freezer 64 pro'. From what i've heard it's the best low-cost HSF.
It's up to you though. ANY hsf will keep your cpu from frying.
| skilzdatkilz2 wrote : Well I guess I'm going to need to order a fan/heat sink. What would you recommend while staying at a low price? I really didn't want to have to spend more but I will have to. I already ordered these parts 2 days ago so the fan/ heat sink will come 2 days after all the other. Is it not safe to turn it on without the fan? I have a decent fan for a socket 754/939/940 will that fit on there? |
I don't understand... You post asking if the parts you listed provide the best bang for the buck, yet then you post 2 hours later that you've "already ordered these parts 2 days ago." What was the point of this post if you've already ordered the parts?
| Quote : I got a copy of windows xp and the am2+ is the newest socket so it would be terrible to turn it on without a fan on the cpu? |
Yes it would be quite terrible to turn it on without a CPU fan.
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