8800GS any good?

Does anyone know if the 8800GS is any good and which cards it is comparable with?

Yep, about as good as a 256mb 3850.

Right on par with the upcoming 9600 GT.

Of an 8800 GS? Probably not.

It's not something Nvidia is pushing. It was a stopgap to hold the line against the 3850 until the 9600 shows up, and probably to get rid of old G80 stock to make room for G92s.

There are a couple benches out there though, if you google it.

That's what I thought

This is the only one I ever came across:

http://en.expreview.com/?p=236

8800gs is actually weaker than 9600gt for the obvious reasons like 4 less ROP, 16 less tmu, and 192bit memory controller but 8800gs does shines in shader intensive games at lower resolutions.

Different rop and tmu counts and clock speed. Bigger memory bus.

G80 GTS = 20 ROP 24 TMU 96SP 320bit memory controller
G80 GTX = 24 ROP 32 TMU 128SP 384bit memory controller

G92 GTS = 16 ROP 64 TMU 128SP 256bit memory controller

More games are starting to use more shader effects which the G92 GTS has an advantage over the G80GTS and is actually a bit faster than 8800gtx in lower resolutions far as raw performance goes. While G80 has less fillrate but bigger ROP count and memory controller for superior AA performance. G80 GTX is still tiny bit faster if you want to game high resolutions with AA.

9600gt is actually faster. Shader isn't the only thing that dictates performance. More rops would let you run higher resolutions along with bigger memory bus which has effect on AA performance as well. As for TMU. I think it's irrelevant or very little difference especially with G92 cards are already peaking over 20-30 Gtexels/s.

Also these Nvidia dx10 cards do AA the old way. Through pipes. Unlike AMD 2000 and 3000 series which does it through shaders. So more TMU and ROPS you have you get better AA performance.

8800GS = 192 bit memory bus

memory bus is not the holy grail of performance. IF that was true 2900xt would be faster than 8800 ultra.

I think you misworded it or confused something. The 8800GS is, as you said, a defective or cut down G92 chip with a smaller bus. The 9600 is NOT a G92.
The 8800GS is a stop-gap solution while the 9600GT is aimed to replace the 8600 series. Since it is aimed at the mid-range, Nvidia developed a new chip that is cheaper to produce than a G92. It is known that the 8800Gs is available in limited numbers only and it wouldn't make sense for Nvidia to cut down the majority of their G92 chips just to supply the demand of mid-range cards.

Im pretty sure the 9600GT is the G94.

something like that.

You too slow. ;P

I was here during pre 3dfx days. Have you? I was messing with computers since I was 12. Have you? Just wondering since you say you've been around longer.

You say memory bandwidth but I say it's ROP, TMU count and combination of the memory bandwidth.

Please do tell what memory bandwidth does in a GPU or CPU situation since you are educated about this subject?

8800gt vs G80GTS anyone? Who wins here? It sure hell isn't the card with more memory bandwidth.

XFX 8800GS in stock at Newegg:

580MHz/1400MHz for $180 + shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150275

680MHz/1600MHz for $190 + shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150276

Hmm, at these prices it's going to be hard to get excited about. Gotta compete with HD3850 for $150, 2900 pro for $160, 320MB 8800GTS $180, and 8800GT 512MB for $200 after rebates.

Yeah, I agree and had I edited that in before seeing you say the same. Sure would be nice for $150-160 though instead of $180-190.

You may be right there. I'd like to see a few good comparisons of that including OC potential. Hopefully someone will do that and better yet lump in the 8600GTS, 3850 256MB & 512MB, 3870, and 8800GT 256MB & 512MB and 320MB 8800GTS. Seems with recent price drops, the 8800GS is hitting the shelves too late to make any impact.

I think i meant "Even though the 9600 has more ROP, TMU than the 8800GS, I don't get how the 9600 has around the same performance as the 8800GS when it has only 2/3 of the shaders that the 8800GS has."

You still didn't answer the question in my previous post. Tell me what you know about memory bandwidth does in a GPU or CPU situation since you said you were educated.

I don't care if you played pong or not. Just because you played a game doesn't mean you know anything about graphics or cpu.

I used to shoot videos and edit movies on Amiga's. I used to program with pascal. I played pong on commodore as well. I've played dos games. I used to make cracks for video games. So? This doesn't mean anything.

Ha, it was funny seeing the C64 mentioned. We had a C64 and even a Vic20 before that. Anyway, I've been cleaning up the hidden sections of the basement and came upon this:

Nice find, pauldh.

Thx, yeah I do believe that proves I have a hard time chucking stuff. I still have our first 8086 too. *blush*

Yeah, lol, what a beast. Sure had some sweet games on that though. Never knew how much that growing gaming addiction would cost through the years.