E2200 Overclocking

[mattc908]

Hey I have an E2200 on a thermaltake heatsync right now. I heard you can overclock these bad boys so high. I have a couple of questions though. What temperatures should I be worried about........

Under air I heard you can bring it to around 3.2
but Im about to put it under water cooling anyone know what I should be getting for it?

Currently did a mild overclock, ran prime95 successfully at 2.8ghz under stress this thing goes to 53-57c. I wasnt sure if that is to hot? I mean my GPU (9800GTX) runs 65c idle.

Oh I have a 5-4-4-4 1t OCZ SLI 4gb memory. If i set the settings to that and change it to 1t the system freaks out but if I keep it at 2t the system is fine? Any reason why....... Thanks.

Can't wait to really pump some power out of this especially underwater!

 

[iluvgillgill]

these low end E2xxx chip will max out at about 3.4Ghz and have a fsb wall of about 400mhz. i try OC about 3 different chip 2XE2180 1XE2160. and they all max out at 375FSB. any higher will fail no matter how much voltage i give to any/all part of the system.

so the best thing is to lower the CPU multiplier to 9X and OC to the highest stable FSB to make the system run at its max potential. water will not do much better and the result you get is more likely to disappoint you.

the max limit for 65nm Core 2 chip is temp:70C and 1.5V Vcore. those are the max value you can set if you want it to last. if you dont care then you can put 2V to the CPU at your like.

about the memory timing. normally at DDR2 800 2.1V you should get 4-4-4-12-2T.

 

[prox2far]

Unfortunately water does not help a lot with the E2XXX series.

You should be grateful if you can get it above 3.6 since, these chips usually max out at 3.4 GHz as iluvgillgill already has mentioned.

as for temps, my advice is to keep it below 65 C, when using prime and other OC tools. This is a slightly conservative limit, but should ensure the cpu won't burn out in 10 months.

 

[CompuTronix]

mattc908,

There are 2 separate sets of temperatures for Core 2 processors; CPU temperature (Tcase) and Core temperatures (Tjunction). Intel's Thermal Specification shown in the Processor Spec Finder - http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLA8X - is CPU temperature, not Core temperature.

The difference between CPU temperature and Core temperatures is 5c at Load. The following scale is from my Core 2 Quad and Duo Temperature Guide - http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/221745-29-core-quad-temperature-guide - which illustrates the thermal relationships:

Section 6: Scale

Scale 1: Duo
E7200: Tcase Max 74c, Stepping M0,TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E4700: Tcase Max 73c, Stepping G0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E4x00: Tcase Max 73c, Stepping M0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E2xx0: Tcase Max 73c, Stepping M0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E8x90: Tcase Max 72c, Stepping C0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E8600: Tcase Max 72c, Stepping E0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E8x00: Tcase Max 72c, Stepping C0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E6x50: Tcase Max 72c, Stepping G0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W
E6540: Tcase Max 72c, Stepping G0, TDP 65W, Idle 8W

-Tcase/Tjunction-
--70--/--75--75-- Hot
--65--/--70--70-- Warm
--60--/--65--65-- Safe
--25--/--30--30-- Cool

SpeedFan 4.34 - http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php - shows CPU temperature and Core temperatures, which can be calibrated by using my Guide. If you're just interested in monitoring Core temperatures only, then use Real Temp 2.7 - http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

I hope this answers your questions,

Comp

 

[mattc908]

Yeah thats great! Im just wondering if lets say a 3.0ghz E2200 will make up for the 1mb l2 cache in gaming? Should I step up to an E7200?

 

[iluvgillgill]

as far as OC sake yes go for the E7200.but you already got a E2200 and OC it to say 3.2Ghz or Even 3Ghz it will beat E7200 at 2.8Ghz.

your call.

 

[Shadow703793]

^+1.

 

[Triknives]

Im in the same boat... Im really impatient. And I will be making a New PC in the next 2 weeks. I hear they are releasing the E5200's but they are not in stores yet...and its already late august....Should I just go with the E2200? Im going to be gaming, I just dont know if it still can handle today's games.

 

[iluvgillgill]

but if you can afford get the E7200.

 

[assasin32]

I'd wait, I have an e2180 OC to 3ghz, and if I were in the market to buy a new budget computer now I'd sit back and wait for that e5200. 45nm and from a review or 2 I read it OC's pretty well with a 12.5 multiplier 2mb L2 cache (21xx has 1mb L2 cache), and some of the reviewers got them up to 4ghz.

Plus I already feel the limitations of my my OC e2180, so yeah if I were you I would wait just a little bit longer and get soo much more out of my money.

 

[iluvgillgill]

yeah 4Ghz is available on that E5200 but a best cooler is needed so that will drive the cost up further.

9x450 sounds nice combo to max the cpu and ram(with ddr2-800) and a decent p35.

 

[Triknives]

Im trying to choose a new mobo right now to go with the E5200, or the E7200. Which do you think i should go for? Ive been looking at the P5Q from Asus and the GA-EP45 from Gigabyte, I might even go for DFI, if the price is cheap enough. Im trying to spend say, 100-120? Any suggestions?

 

[iluvgillgill]

get E7200 with Biostart TPower P45 for the best possible OC experience and result.

 

[Triknives]

thats 150 bucks though, and its kinda of a gamble. Seeing as the results from that other guy(6.0) may be extremely rare, and probly is. Im lookin more for a sure fire, known to work mobo. And I really just want it to be able to handle the 45nm cpus out of the box. But I got time to wait anyway...no 5200's yet...

 

[Shadow703793]

^P35-DS3L ($83)

 

[Triknives]

Ya, i probly will just go with the Ga-ep35 , Im thinkin i might just get the EP45 too though, tough choice. Im sure either of them will get the job done....The hell intel....release the damn E5200....its late august!

P.S NZ and Australia have them...where is U.S's.....

 

[iluvgillgill]

the p45 will be better then the p35.

 

[foltor]

bro i have over clock my pc but it does not start and hangs so i have to clear my CMOS everytime i clock it..is it because my DDr2 Ram is 667,i set my clock speed to 220fsb and ram to 1:1 other then that my motherbord does not allow to change
i am using MSI 945G chipset (MS-7507)

Please help

 

[foltor]

bro i have over clock my pc but it does not start and hangs so i have to clear my CMOS everytime i clock it..is it because my DDr2 Ram is 667,i set my clock speed to 220fsb and ram to 1:1 other then that my motherbord does not allow to change
i am using MSI 945G chipset (MS-7507)

Please help