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So yea,with the arrival of this the 8800GS will become obsolete. Wonder how good will the HD3850 512MB perform against this baby. This is certainly cheaper...unless ATI drops the price on the HD3850's...

BTW:some early benchies from pconline.com.cn

Expect a price premium when they first ship. Also 256meg variants will be $169 I'm thinking.

Yeah, I'm expecting at least $190.

If those figures turn out to be correct, and I have no reason to think otherwise, then I shall be even happier with my doggies.

I want to see 3850 512meg vs 9600gt 512meg

I'll say the 9600GT 512MB will win against the 3850 512MB, since Nvidia won't release something weaker.

They seem neck and neck to me. The only thing 9600gt has on 3850 is texture performance but 3850 have better shader.

AMD just sucks with Lost planet. I don't know why since it's an xbox360 port.

happy with my doggies? Wow there.

Hence why it sucks. And before you ask, "yes" I do dislike consoles these days.

Crysis @1680x1050 with all settings (except shaders) on high, no AA (not needed) 29.5fps outdoors/ 79+ fps indoors, and it looks gorgeous and runs buttery smooth. Wow indeed my friend.

Actually, there is not likely to be too much of a price premium.
I would actually expect them to possible go under those prices.

I just saw an MSI 8800GT 512MB for $199 AR.
With the 8800GT starting to go for near $200,
The 9600GT will have a tough time getting $189.

Actually, the 3850 512MB can be found for about $180-$190. Sometimes as low as $170 with rebates. And that's not even considering the inevitable price premium when the 9600 first ships. Might not be able to find one for under $200 at first. Depends how other cards go with their prices.

I would also be interested to see a 3850 512 vs a 9600 512. Should be very close.

so basically this card sucks and was released to compete directly with the 3850 and possibly the 3870? I don't get it. the 9600 series should be better than this? but it does show that nvidia can still produce a less expensive card that performs well. it's about time ati forced them into this price bracket. :-p. which is good for all of us in the long run. I will still stick to my original planned purchase of the gigabyte 3870 512 ddr3 for 210 with nwn2 considering the review it got (yeah, i found one for the gddr3 model.. it actually was slightly better in a few cases against the "one off" ddr4 models. I attribute this to high quality parts. but it's not an earth shattering change... considering it have an almost unnoticable performance hit compared to the gddr4 models in a few cases. either way, it's at least 20-30 bucks cheaper than any other model, has a pretty fan and a game... so i'll be happy. :-p ($30 fan + $50 game = 80bucks off imo, brings the price down to $130) IT"S A NICE! :-p

and have i been out of the loop or something? 8800gs? I'm going to go look one of them up now. :-p

meh, it still is going to suck when it has 256 and lose a bit to 3850 512. and not worth SLIing still