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i had my heart set on building the system from the TH guide on the E2140, and just a few days ago, started buying the parts (none of them have arrived yet)

Intel E2160
MSI P35 Neo2-FR
2x1gb Geil Black Dragon DDR II ram
512mb GECUBE Radeon HD 3870 O.C EditionI
250GB Seagate HDD
Antec Sonata III
Widescreen 21.6" TFT @ 1680x1050

of these, i got the ram, mobo, cpu, and gfx card...

and now, i just found that pc, available at a place i've never heard of before, for less than i was going to pay... pcoption... (http://www.pcoption.co.uk/pcpackages/index5d_8800slip4d.htm)

Gamers PC. Nvidia 8800. Core Duo. (E2140 Core Duo 1.6GHz , Case 1 - Antec 900 Black 750Watt , No PSU Upgrade ( Standard 750 Watt. Unless You Have Upgraded Your Case) , 1 X Nvidia GForce EN8800GT 512MB Graphics , 80GB Hard Drive , 2GB DDR 2 800 MHz , Vista Premium & Disc , 17 " Haans G Widescreen HW173D 8M/S Response, Msi P945P Neo5 Motherboard (Ingore this if you have selected sli graphics upgrade)

all that will go for £601.66

so, should i take the plunge and send my items back and get this system, or stick with my current build???? ps, i am not going to need vast amounts of HDD space...





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02-02-2008 at 11:37:53 PM
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Usually manufactured computers of any kind have some spec they don't want you to know about, whether its a crappy PSU, a bottleneck MOBO, or whatever. If you live in Europe tiger direct has good deals, I always use newegg but they are American only (maybe Canada) haven't kept up with where they sell.


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were you planning to OC the E21xx? if so, then the prebuilt might have BIOS limitations (no OCing) how much money was your original system?


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i live in the uk...

i was planning to take that E2160 to 3ghz... and the price was the same... gosh, i love the antec 900 case...

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NEVER BUY FROM NO NAME PLACES!!!!!! please follow my motto: el'cheapo parts/ unknown retailer = Crappy computer and wasted money!!

Build your own. It's the best way.


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you still think so? i'll follow your advice - i don't feel completely settled with the idea of buying it, tbth... one more thing then...

can anyone recommend me a case with good airflow? and a good PSU whcich can allow me to crossfire later? for not much more than the 72 of the antec sonata III? atm, i'm thinking coolermaster 534, and a PSU... prolly a Hiper...

actually, how much power do i need to CF 2x HD3870s?

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What the hell are you going to crosfire 2 of those for ?!?!?!?! :pt1cable:

Unless you are trying to drive a 60inch LCD you won't need to.

But to answer your question 1k powersupply should just be about right.

:bounce: Here is my recomendation for Case and powersupply.... I use it in all my Builds, even the budjet gamer ones:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119136

Remember to buy from a repudable dealer and don't go cheap and we may never hear from you on the fourms again (we hope ;) )

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Is that a typo or does that system come with a mere 17" monitor? Trust me you don't want a 17" monitor.

One more thought about a pre-built system is it's more of a PITA to deal with them if there is a problem and not a full retail warranty on many parts.

You do not need a 1KW PSU, that's just misinformation. You should get a larger HDD than 80GB even if you didn't need the space because those old low density plattered drives are quite a bit slower than a modern one, obviously with that video card you will be gaming and loading game files will take much longer with a small older gen. 80GB.

It's annoying you didn't even list the price of the first build, so we have nothing to compare to. Since this is almost like complaining I should just stop this post to be polite. Goodbye and good luck.

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You do not need a 1KW PSU, that's just misinformation.




You sir are full of misinformation, because you need to read his question more throughly, laddie! :non:

he asked about the power requirments for Crossfire 3870"s- and I answered correctly: 1K minimum

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A larger hard drive is in order though...

I have never has any problems with Seagate.


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You do not need a 1KW PSU, that's just misinformation.




You sir are full of misinformation, because you need to read his question more throughly, laddie! :non:

he asked about the power requirments for Crossfire 3870"s- and I answered correctly: 1K minimum



I think you just read some overgeneralized spec, which has nothing to do with reality.

Similarly all kinds of nonsense gets spread about lofty requirements for lesser video cards, sometimes we have to assume they just pull the number out of thin air or assume it somehow translates into a 30%+ derating because they assume someone will buy overrated generic junk.

No system with any crossfired or SLI'd video card needs a 1KW PSU. Dare to see specs of systems running these configs w/o issue. Google is your friend.

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I contest you "I" what if he was running 6 SATA Drives, with an addition 2 Optical drives, and ...... a microwave.

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1 ****** kilowatt??? for 2x HD3870s??? what the hell??? damn, that sucks... oh, and the original price was +/- £610

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Those are not the same motherboards , the prebuilt one is a 945 chipset, several generations behind the P35.


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02-05-2008 at 05:24:28 PM