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1280x1024 res. GT or GTS?

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February 11, 2008 4:59:02 PM

i'll be gaming at 1280x1024 if i go with a 19' lcd, and maybe 1680x1050 if i go 20', anyway, there is not that much difference in number of pixels between those two resolutions.

this is what i'll get
ga-p35-ds3L
e2160 oc @ 3.0
crucial ballistic ddr2 800

and, can't decide between this two:
MSI GT OC with a very nice cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329

XFX GTS G92
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150261

There's a $70 difference for a 'not so sure' improvement for the GTS over the GT at that resolution.
What do you guys think?

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February 11, 2008 5:06:21 PM

The 8800 GTS g92 is not worth the extra cost. The card has hit its limits with the 256 bit interface, you won't see much a improvement over a 8800 Gt, not worth the extra 50-80 bucks. You could get a 256 mb card with your res, but better to get a 512 that you can use for larger monitors down the road, or for a spare rig with some more added power. Drop the MSI idea, when it comes to nvidia partners..there is NO point in grabbing anything but XFX/EVGA/BFG. Why nab MSI when XFX/EVGA/BFG have lifetime warranties? ontop of that, EVGA and XFX have special programs, With EVGA you get the step up, 3 months, if you want turn in your card for something better, you can, you just pay the difference. With XFX, the double lifetime warranty, you can sell the card, and the buyer gets the lifetime warranty also, this makes it great for selling high end cards with much of their value contained...I prefer XFX's program, it has a lot longer lifetime. Plus they are more friendly for modding.

Here, nab this.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If EVGA's programs seem more to your liking, you can get either of these.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hope this helps, if you have any questions, feel free to ask ^_^.
February 11, 2008 5:14:31 PM

I use an 8800GT with my 19" monitor. Most intensive game I have is probably Company of Heroes, and I can run it on max settings in DX10 mode. I don't see any reason to waste your money on an 8800GTS G92.
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February 11, 2008 5:15:17 PM

I agree with the others, go with the GT. If you plan on going for a 22"+ monitor, then go for the GTS.
February 11, 2008 5:18:29 PM

They will both play 22" monitors with ease. G92GTS is only 5-10% faster than GT. Not worth the extra money.
February 11, 2008 5:19:29 PM

Even with a 22" monitor though, it's not justified, If the g92 gts has a unlocked full 378 bit interface, I would recommend it easily. If you OC the g92 GTS, you pretty much see almost no improvement. It's being bottlenecked. When the 9800 GTX comes out though, which will be identical to the GTS g92, you'll see it in it's full glory ^_^. Keep in mind the GTS g92 is clocked higher than the GTX in most aspects. It should outperform it, but the 256 bit interface compared to the 8800 GTX's 378 is holding it back.

Just nab a 8800 GT...No more, no less, it's a great card for the price.
a c 272 U Graphics card
February 11, 2008 5:24:57 PM

Yeah, what the last five said. [:mousemonkey]
February 11, 2008 5:40:40 PM

marvelous211 said:
They will both play 22" monitors with ease. G92GTS is only 5-10% faster than GT. Not worth the extra money.


For me the cooler and better overclockability are.
February 11, 2008 5:51:04 PM

The cooler would be the only reason to do so, the overclockability is not there, the 256 bit interface holds back the card, this card is clocked HIGHER than a 8800 GTX, if you OC it, you won't see much real world improvement, which has been stated by MANY adopters. What people really want in a single GPU card, is a gts g92 with the full 378 bit interface, will see this when the 9800 GTX is released, the performance will easily be above the 8800 GTX and other cards.

Of you go the 8800 GT route, as well as nab a XFX or EVGA, you have a lifetime warranty, so there is no worries. Also, bump up the fan sensors default speeds a bit to keep it cool. I wouldn't justify a GTS g92 when we're on the verge of seeing a 9800 GX2, 9800 GTX, and r700 in June. Probably see g100 around Q3/Q4.
a c 147 U Graphics card
February 11, 2008 7:03:00 PM

If you are going on the cheap then the GT, but if you have the few extra bucks spring for the GTS. The cooler is larger and blows the hot air out the back of the case rather than keeping it in there. My old x1900xtx had a great thermalright cooler but it kept the hot air in the case. I actually saw my case and chipset temps drop after installing this card.

If you have a GT just make sure you have good case flow.

I don't think the OC limitations are caused by the 256bit interface as much as the Renduring Operators. the GT and GTS only have 16 as compared to the GTX that has 24. They overclock with the GPU which lets this scale better for the GTX and holds the GT and GTS back a little.
February 11, 2008 7:25:48 PM

cnumartyr said:
For me the cooler and better overclockability are.

I agree. Better cooling and better OCing is worth the extra cost. Of course the 8800GT has a better value when considering performance, but I'm considering cooling, noise level, as well as OCing.

You can hit 800MHz on the 8800GTS, that's all the reason I need.
February 11, 2008 7:27:20 PM

A 8800GTS (G92) w/512 is $258 onsale with a Tiger email code.
I played with mine for just 3 runs on 3dMark06 (build 110).
1st run stock 10,933.
3rd run useing latest nTune with GPU @758 and Memory @1088 gave me 11,895 without running any warmer.

I am sure if I cared to do so it would run alot higher speeds...and the G92 uses alot less power.
February 11, 2008 7:52:52 PM

Evilonigiri said:
I agree. Better cooling and better OCing is worth the extra cost. Of course the 8800GT has a better value when considering performance, but I'm considering cooling, noise level, as well as OCing.

You can hit 800MHz on the 8800GTS, that's all the reason I need.


+1, I will dont plan on ever buying a single slot cooler card again honestly. Thats actually why I bought the card you see in the sig back when the 8800GT and this first came out. That and there was no 8800GT in sight, plus this cost me only $20 than those at the time.

Best,

3Ball
February 12, 2008 11:05:46 AM

what about the directx 10.1 thing?
some people says that when dx10.1 comes out the hd3xxx will blow the gt/gts.
February 12, 2008 11:20:19 AM

socrampy said:
what about the directx 10.1 thing?
some people says that when dx10.1 comes out the hd3xxx will blow the gt/gts.



Really? What people? Unless I'm forgetting all DX10.1 does is force some AA and AF and some quality stuff.. I can't remember exactly but it's not a huge deal.

DX11 will be where it's at Q109.

DX10.1 will not magically make ATI perform better than nVidia other than that there may be some 3D Mark Vantage tests that require DX10.1 which nVidia won't have support for.. So I guess if nVidia scores a 0 than even if ATI scores a 1, it's still infinately better, right?
February 12, 2008 12:37:08 PM

socrampy said:
what about the directx 10.1 thing?
some people says that when dx10.1 comes out the hd3xxx will blow the gt/gts.


Yea, I wouldnt worry about DX10.1 honestly. Its nothing special. I just hope they get DX10 as a whole working better soon.

Best,

3Ball
February 12, 2008 2:02:02 PM

socrampy said:
i'll be gaming at 1280x1024 if i go with a 19' lcd, and maybe 1680x1050 if i go 20', anyway, there is not that much difference in number of pixels between those two resolutions.

this is what i'll get
ga-p35-ds3L
e2160 oc @ 3.0
crucial ballistic ddr2 800

and, can't decide between this two:
MSI GT OC with a very nice cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329

XFX GTS G92
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150261

There's a $70 difference for a 'not so sure' improvement for the GTS over the GT at that resolution.
What do you guys think?


Well, I'm pretty sure my reply can help a little bit. I have pretty much the same setup...little different...E2180@3Ghz,4x1GB Patriot @ 5-5-5-15 1.8V, BFG 8800 GT OC @ 700/1990. And I'm running my games at 1920x1200 quite nicely. Only game I've come across that might hiccup now and then is Hellgate:London...but that's at maxed settings and on this budget system...not to shabby. Oh, just get the 8800GT, it's already got the nice heatsink(I had to install one on mine) so you'll be good to go, not only that $210 AR Very nice deal.
February 12, 2008 2:41:23 PM

marvelous211 said:
They will both play 22" monitors with ease. G92GTS is only 5-10% faster than GT. Not worth the extra money.


Oh live on the edge man! 5%-10% IS an increase. Isnt this an enthusiast site? Spend that money!

cnumartyr said:
For me the cooler and better overclockability are.


Exactly why I bought one. Im at 750/1050 and enjoying ever millisecond of silky gameplay. :) 
(Even though I still get owned in COD4)

Evilonigiri said:
I agree. Better cooling and better OCing is worth the extra cost. Of course the 8800GT has a better value when considering performance, but I'm considering cooling, noise level, as well as OCing.

You can hit 800MHz on the 8800GTS, that's all the reason I need.


Hell ya! Thats the spirit!


Wow that was corny, but hey, im in a good mood. I just put an offer in on a house.
3 car garage and big basement....all I need!
February 12, 2008 3:19:51 PM

rallyimprezive said:
Oh live on the edge man! 5%-10% IS an increase. Isnt this an enthusiast site? Spend that money!

Well.. no.. not really lol. Go to xtremesystems for that :D 

It isnt worth it. Thats 5 - 10% at best.. for the money it aint worth it.


Hell, an ultra is a 5 - 10% increase over a 8800GTS in performance,.. for $100 - $200 more!


Do you reccomend that lol


As for 800mhz.. pfftt... my GT is on 770mhz core atm and I haven't even done the bios voltmod yet.
February 12, 2008 3:31:55 PM

Hatman said:
Well.. no.. not really lol. Go to xtremesystems for that :D 

It isnt worth it. Thats 5 - 10% at best.. for the money it aint worth it.


Hell, an ultra is a 5 - 10% increase over a 8800GTS in performance,.. for $100 - $200 more!


Do you reccomend that lol


As for 800mhz.. pfftt... my GT is on 770mhz core atm and I haven't even done the bios voltmod yet.


Stock Cooler or did you buy an aftermarket?

If it's aftermarket, how much did it cost?
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 12, 2008 8:14:27 PM


To socrampy
Of the two cards you have linked to the first one the MSI OC GT would be the one for me the specs are near to the GTS and i do beleive that the cooler isnt the stock unit so wont have the overheating issue that some have reported on the standard single slot solution.
The performance will be closser to a GTS anyway thanks to the overclock as i have already mentioned so it just dosent make sence to me to spend what will be $80 after the rebates, Hell thats nearly half the price again for next to no gain.
Mactronix
a c 272 U Graphics card
February 12, 2008 8:22:38 PM

mactronix said:
To socrampy
Of the two cards you have linked to the first one the MSI OC GT would be the one for me the specs are near to the GTS and i do beleive that the cooler isnt the stock unit so wont have the overheating issue that some have reported on the standard single slot solution.
The performance will be closser to a GTS anyway thanks to the overclock as i have already mentioned so it just dosent make sence to me to spend what will be $80 after the rebates, Hell thats nearly half the price again for next to no gain.
Mactronix

[:mousemonkey:2] That HSF looks like the one they fitted to the 7900GTO, which is not a bad thing but it is quite chunky.
a c 130 U Graphics card
February 12, 2008 8:26:17 PM


Yes if you look at the pics its definatly a two slot solution. Thought i would point it out as people seem to be using the standard unit GT as a comparison to the GTS, The MSI card is anything but standard they do some good things with graphics cards.
Mactronix
a c 272 U Graphics card
February 12, 2008 8:35:10 PM

Agreed, the 7900GTO was a stonking card, OC'd to GTX speed and still runs without a glitch nearly a year and a half after purchase.
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