Quick--should I get a 8800gs or 3850???

[echofoxtrot]

i think that the title says it all.


384 mb 8800gs or 512 mb 3850?

thanks-

 

[Kamrooz]

the 512mb 3850 would be more favorable IMO, depends on your resolution as well.

 

[echofoxtrot]

going for 1680x1050

 

[Evilonigiri]

Interesting topic here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/248614-33-hd3850-256mb-512mb-legionhardware

Seems like there's not much diff between 256MB and 512MB for the HD3850.

EDIT: Nonetheless, I'm recommending the HD3850 512MB for future proofing, if you don't want to upgrade for awhile.

 

[marvelous211]

There is definitely a difference from 256mb and 512mb. Legionhardware test 3 games and they say it doesn't make any difference? Why not test games like COD4 or Crysis? It would make that 256mb card drop like no other.

To the original poster. 3850 is the better buy. You get full 256bit memory controller that handles higher resolution and AA with more ease than 192bit memory controller.

 

[Evilonigiri]

There is definitely a difference from 256mb and 512mb. Legionhardware test 3 games and they say it doesn't make any difference? Why not test games like COD4 or Crysis? It would make that 256mb card drop like no other.

To the original poster. 3850 is the better buy. You get full 256bit memory controller that handles higher resolution and AA with more ease than 192bit memory controller.

They did test Crysis. Barely any difference.

 

[Kamrooz]

Indeed, if you play at 1680x1050, You NEED 512 mb, that's the limit where 256 mb is pretty much horrid. Below that you should be fine, but even inbetween around 1336x768 (or whatever the hell the res is), will begin to show a slow down.

Take the 3850 route, the 256 and 512 3850 are identical, just nab the 3850 512 and oc it a bit to bring it closer to 3870/2900 XT speeds. Make sure you try to nab a dual slot cooler version to keep it cool for oc potential, as well as exhaust hot air out of the case.

 

[marvelous211]

They did test Crysis. Barely any difference.

Sure Crysis maybe at lower resolutions. Turn up the resolution and you quickly realize the video card limits.

edit: You were talking about legionhardware? Seriously these guys are joke who spread fud like no other. I hate these guys. They should just close shop.

 

[FrozenGpu]

Sure Crysis maybe at lower resolutions. Turn up the resolution and you quickly realize the video card limits.

edit: You were talking about legionhardware? Seriously these guys are joke who spread fud like no other. I hate these guys. They should just close shop.

yeah shame on these guys!

how dare they spend time, money, and energy, benchmarking a GFX card for us, how dare they!!!!

RAWR!!!!!

They make me so angry!

 

[Evilonigiri]

Sure Crysis maybe at lower resolutions. Turn up the resolution and you quickly realize the video card limits.

edit: You were talking about legionhardware? Seriously these guys are joke who spread fud like no other. I hate these guys. They should just close shop.

Agreed. I want Anandtech to do this review.

 

[jay2tall]

I vote 3850 512mb. or wait till the 9600GT comes out.

 

[marvelous211]

yeah shame on these guys!

how dare they spend time, money, and energy, benchmarking a GFX card for us, how dare they!!!!

RAWR!!!!!

They make me so angry!

Do you seriously think they are spending their time, money, and energy? They are getting paid. There is no such thing as free web sites. If they don't write articles on free hardware they received they will not generate traffic. Which means companies won't want to advertise on their site.

They've been misleading people in many instances. The guy who does these benches have been questioned before. I'm sick of these guys who want clicks on their web sites. These guys are not really old or do they spit out any quality articles. It's always been just benches and that's it.

http://www.yougamers.com/articles/13801_video_ram_-_how_much_do_you_really_need/

 

[gamecrazychris]

Is the 8800gs even out yet?

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

how dare they spend time, money, and energy, benchmarking a GFX card for us, how dare they!!!!

Nah, how dare they waste my time on a weak review!?!

Boutique cards (Ultimates are about quiet, not performance), with underclocked memory, with an artificially pumped up price difference, without even looking at the tough benchies or the min fps. [:thegreatgrapeape:5]

Don't really care about their time and money, like marvey says, they're getting paid, I just want my 10 mins back. [:zorg:2]

Or to get paid for reading it.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Is the 8800gs even out yet?

Yes, but very limited release, according to Cleeve, mainly found in Europe and Asia.

 

[marvelous211]

Yes, but very limited release, according to Cleeve, mainly found in Europe and Asia.

They sell these at newegg now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=8800gs&x=0&y=0

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Cool, hadn't seen those. [:mousemonkey]

 

[cnumartyr]

Sure Crysis maybe at lower resolutions. Turn up the resolution and you quickly realize the video card limits.

edit: You were talking about legionhardware? Seriously these guys are joke who spread fud like no other. I hate these guys. They should just close shop.

Remind me again who you are? I've heard of Legion, not of you. Oh and perhaps instead of saying "TURN THE RESOLUTION UP" you could notice the OP said 16x10.. So it doesn't matter how the 256 MB card does at 19x12 does it?

I agree on the 512 MB, but you need to actually look at the links and what the OP wants first.

 

[marvelous211]

Remind me again who you are? I've heard of Legion, not of you. Oh and perhaps instead of saying "TURN THE RESOLUTION UP" you could notice the OP said 16x10.. So it doesn't matter how the 256 MB card does at 19x12 does it?

I agree on the 512 MB, but you need to actually look at the links and what the OP wants first.

I'm marvelous who has more grasp on video hardware than legionhardware's Steven Walton who just want clicks with screwed benchmarks. :lol:

That's why I gave a link on later post.

http://www.yougamers.com/articles/13801_video_ram_-_how_much_do_you_really_need/

 

[aznstriker92]

I definately agree in the Op getting a 3850 512. It can be had for $180 @ newegg with a better cooler and the 8800GS costs the same too. Why get a more limited card for the same price??

 

[cnumartyr]

I'm marvelous who has more grasp on video hardware than legionhardware's Steven Walton who just want clicks with screwed benchmarks. :lol:

That's why I gave a link on later post.

http://www.yougamers.com/articles/13801_video_ram_-_how_much_do_you_really_need/

I know the link, and I know what you posted.

However your original comment was "turn up the resolution" and it was obvious that up to that point you hadn't even looked at the article.

 

[marvelous211]

I know the link, and I know what you posted.

However your original comment was "turn up the resolution" and it was obvious that up to that point you hadn't even looked at the article.

First off I was talking about 8800gs with 192bit memory bus.

At 1280x1024 @ high detail 8800gs does well within 3850 performance. But when you turn up the resolution by a notch it does horribly compared to 3850.

http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/graphics/reviews/0801/1205247_9.html

I don't need to read legionhardware. They are a joke. I'm sick of these click happy websites.

 

[radguy]

Is this site any help.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5354&Itemid=40&limit=1&limitstart=1

 

[echofoxtrot]

Wow--thanks for all the responses guys-- but yall are going to kill me.

I got a 512mb 3650. haha.

The thing is, I just upgraded to a 22" monitor and the old fx5400 (i think) with its 128mb of ram and 64bit bus (with passive cooler to boot!) was struggling under vista.

I wanted something that would easily handle everyday graphics and play some light gaming.

I've beat everything that was good out right now (except bioshock!!!) but after i bought a 3870 and beat crysis--I sold the card/game..and well pretty much the whole computer as I didnt think any good games where scheduled out soon. (gave me time to play some ps3)

But i missed the ol pc so i built another more budget rig, and picked up games like C&C generals, half life 1, diablo, and system shock 2 and i'm excited to beat those.

Just seemed that for 79bones w/ free shipping I couldnt go wrong with that 3650.

QUESTION--does anyone know if the 3650's use the same cooler holes as the 3870?? I have an accelero s1 with that i'd love to cool that thing with.

Thanks again.sorry for long post.

 

[T8RR8R]

I'd say get the 3850 or wait for the 9600GT which is supposed to be out around the 19th of Feb(a week or so). I'd wait for the reviews on the 9600GT cuz it might suck, but at least then you'd know for sure. Personally though I'd go for the 3850 anyway because it has DX10.1 and even though we might not see that being used for a year or 2 it'd still be the best card to get in the long term.