9800GX2 vs 3870X2

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Both cards are valued at around $450 and the 3870X2 is just 2 3870's and the 9800GX2 is 2 8800gts(512)

Since the (G92) GTS's are faster than the 3870s then the 9800GX2 should be faster and a better deal right?



Just a side note does the 9800GX2 support Tri or Quad SLI?

(I haven't been on the fourms in a few weeks so sorry if this topic has already appeared like 10 times)

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Ahh was there a point in making a new thread when theres a bunch out there? anyways, no the 9800GX2 is not going to be valued around 450, more like $600.
We don't know if its going to support Quad SLI because its so big and hot. It may not be a better deal, depending on how well Nvidia optimizes the drivers. So far Nvidia has delayed the launch indicating that they have some problems.

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the 9800GX2 is not out yet, we will have to wait and see how it performs. The 9800GX2 is different though since it uses dual PCB's. No words on quad sli, but it will likely be a reality. But we all know that nvidia is really crappy with drivers.

In terms of performance, an 8800 GT is superior to a 3870, but crossfire scales better than SLI. So don't expect the gap to be too big. It will indeed be better than Crossfire, but if you take a look at the benchies in games that can handle crossfire/SLI effectively, the 3870x2 would pretty much have nearly double the frames, a 100% increase of a single 3870..Meanwhile, under sli, you'd see the frames sitting around 75% higher than a single 8800 GT.

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But about the price, I remember Tom's hardware said it was going to cost around $450

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Yeah... most artcles including toms were speculating a $450 price range. Thats the only way it will be competitive with the 3870


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When it gets released, we'll know how much it's valued at.


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randomizer wrote :

When it gets released, we'll know how much it's valued at.



exactly!!! :ange:

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i want to see a new line up from Nvidia (9 series) and something that can beat the 8800gtx from Ati so that Nvidia will start to make better cards instead of going the gx2 route.


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If it is just two 8800GT's it will perform about the same as the 3870X2. The 3870 Cf can really hold it's own against the 8800GT. It's also going to be on a dual PCB and probably a smoking hot. If they price it around the 3870X2, it'll be pretty competitive, but if they go higher, I don't think it'll be worthwhile. Sort of like the 1950XTX vs the 7950GX2.

The 1950XTX was a single card and it performed pretty close to the 7950GX2 for a lot less money/heat and driver issues. The 3870X2 on the other hand is a dual GPU card but it performs as good as the 8800Ultra but for a lot less. That's why I can't understand people comparing the 3870X2 to the 7950GX2

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teh_boxzor wrote :

i want to see a new line up from Nvidia (9 series) and something that can beat the 8800gtx from Ati so that Nvidia will start to make better cards instead of going the gx2 route.


I have not seen anything from the 9 series or AIT 3800s worth reading about (except maybe the 9600GTS)
I guess the 9800X2 will be about 20% faster than the 8800GTS 512 at best. (based on how the 3800 X2 is doing and the 3800 scales well from what I read)
Just another day waiting for the g100/r770
Bottom line. There still is no serious 8800GTX killer.

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http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=11552

Hopefully we will see some benchies.


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yes Tom's hardware said it was going to cost around $450 but if it performs alot better then the 3870 X2 nvidia will raize there price for sure.

im not sure what kind of performance to expect from the 9800X2 but would'd be surprised if it will cost 499 not to mention the price premium that is added after it is first released:(

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$450 is a complete dream price for the 8800/9800GX2 (whatever they call it and IMO).
Nvidia always price strongly (although over the past year, they've had the justification to...) so I can't see the new dual PCB coming in at anything less than $550/600.
The 3870X2 is priced more competitively than the 8800GTX (let alone the Ultra) over here in the UK, so I can't imagine the new card coming in below Ultra prices.
Personally I think ATi have really pulled something out of the hat with the 3870X2 and I reckon they gave Nvidia a little bit of a shock. I am getting tempted to change my GTX for either a 3870X2 or 2 and cant really see any chance of me bothering with the next nvidia card. :)


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If I had a GTX right now I would definitely be waiting to see what happens later this year.

As it was though I had (until recently) an X1950PRO.
My lovely new Sapphire HD3870X2 blows it not just clean out of the water but pretty much into orbit :)

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IndigoMoss wrote :

If it is just two 8800GT's it will perform about the same as the 3870X2. The 3870 Cf can really hold it's own against the 8800GT. It's also going to be on a dual PCB and probably a smoking hot. If they price it around the 3870X2, it'll be pretty competitive, but if they go higher, I don't think it'll be worthwhile. Sort of like the 1950XTX vs the 7950GX2.

The 1950XTX was a single card and it performed pretty close to the 7950GX2 for a lot less money/heat and driver issues. The 3870X2 on the other hand is a dual GPU card but it performs as good as the 8800Ultra but for a lot less. That's why I can't understand people comparing the 3870X2 to the 7950GX2



Every review Ive read comparing the 38070X2 to 8800GT in SLI shows the 3870X2 getting smoked in most games at most resolutions. Now Im not saying the 3870X2 isnt a good card, it is the fastest single card available right now, but I dont see how you can say that "If it is just two 8800GT's it will perform about the same as the 3870X2." Thats jut a flat out lie. Please provide some proof to back up your claim.

As an example, heres a review I read just this morning showing the 3870X2 getting smoked by 2 8800GTs in SLI.
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/i [...] &Itemid=27

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blackened144 wrote :

Every review Ive read comparing the 38070X2 to 8800GT in SLI shows the 3870X2 getting smoked in most games at most resolutions. Now Im not saying the 3870X2 isnt a good card, it is the fastest single card available right now, but I dont see how you can say that "If it is just two 8800GT's it will perform about the same as the 3870X2." Thats jut a flat out lie. Please provide some proof to back up your claim.

As an example, heres a review I read just this morning showing the 3870X2 getting smoked by 2 8800GTs in SLI.
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/i [...] &Itemid=27



Alright, my bad. I thought for sure that 2 3870's in CF performed the same as two 8800GT's in SLI. I guess Crossfire's scaling only goes so far, thanks for correcting me.

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IndigoMoss wrote :

Alright, my bad. I thought for sure that 2 3870's in CF performed the same as two 8800GT's in SLI. I guess Crossfire's scaling only goes so far, thanks for correcting me.



CF Scales better than SLI, but the 8800 GT just has more horsepower to begin with.


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blackened144 wrote :

Every review Ive read comparing the 38070X2 to 8800GT in SLI shows the 3870X2 getting smoked in most games at most resolutions. Now Im not saying the 3870X2 isnt a good card, it is the fastest single card available right now, but I dont see how you can say that "If it is just two 8800GT's it will perform about the same as the 3870X2." Thats jut a flat out lie. Please provide some proof to back up your claim.

As an example, heres a review I read just this morning showing the 3870X2 getting smoked by 2 8800GTs in SLI.
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/i [...] &Itemid=27



Smoked? Looks like they're trading blows from the benchmarks in the link you posted. The GTs win in some conditions, the X2 wins in others.

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All I want to know, is what the hell is up with Call of Duty 4 in the benchmark? Seriously, wtf?

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IndigoMoss wrote :

All I want to know, is what the hell is up with Call of Duty 4 in the benchmark? Seriously, wtf?



The X2 is slower than the single 3870 so it looks like a driver issue to me.
It'd be interesting to see what happens to these benchmarks with future driver releases (from both camps).