scared but building my first rig

[jhyukkang]

hi. im building a new rig, yes it is first time. i want recomendations here, my budget is about 1000$ not including monitor,
i chose these first, will they work fine??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131095
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134117
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103242

please i really need help, i hope i got all parts matched

 

[hawkspur]

RAM is fine, though I would consider going Intel over AMD. Your choice though.

 

[Silverion77]

Couple things...go with Intel

Heres a straight off good build:
Go under my name on the left...hit more info then go and hit system configuration...there you are done...

That build cost me $900 with Vista (so $800 on parts)...you can upgrade a few things too. If you follow that and ARE overclocking get the E2160 instead of the E2180. The 60 overclocks better. If you want you can upgrade to the E6750 or E4x00 series if you are not overclocking

 

[roadrunner197069]

Couple things...go with Intel

Heres a straight off good build:
Go under my name on the left...hit more info then go and hit system configuration...there you are done...

That build cost me $900 with Vista (so $800 on parts)...you can upgrade a few things too. If you follow that and ARE overclocking get the E2160 instead of the E2180. The 60 overclocks better. If you want you can upgrade to the E6750 or E4x00 series if you are not overclocking

The e2160 does not overclock better or easier then the e2180. x9 vs. x10 the x10 wins. Both are excellent overclockers either way. Either one will hit 3.0 no problem. My e2180 runs 3.33 on stock cooling.

 

[Silverion77]

Yes the 10x multiplier does make it better, but from what I've seen and read...the E2180 tend to be very power hungry compared to the E2180s.

I know from personal experience (and I know you have one too) but I still have to say that the E2160s are getting higher into 3.4-3.6 range where as I generally see the E2180s at 3.0 (many seem to have a big wall there and require a lot of voltage)

 

[roadrunner197069]

Only difference is the multiplier if one has a hard time getting at x10 one could go x9 and see what happens. Either way works for those of us that know what we are doing but the 10x makes it easier for a noob to OC espesially at stock voltage.

If I were to build a budget pc right now it would be the e2200. If the new celerons were $40 I would use one of those, but the price is to close to the e2140 and the celeron has only 512MB cache. The one I want to get my hands on is the e4700 x13 multi. Available in March.

Personally I'm waiting on the Q6600 replacement. Hope to see it soon. My birthday is next month woot.

 

[Silverion77]

lucky

 

[VoidPhantom]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-shootout.html

Check out this comparison between amd and intel for dual-core.
Its better to go intel now. And if you do go intel, probably go for the Gigabyte p35-DS3L for the price. If you're willing to spend more for a x38 for crossfire or some other mobo for sli, go for it.

Thing is, I think its better to just stay with 1 GPU rather than 2+.

P35-DS3L
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

Not sure what kind of CPU to recommend, so I'll let others choose for you. But check out the article from x-bit.

And don't worry, my first build was pretty exciting and is on the bottom

 

[jhyukkang]

will this fine??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128059
e2180, and the ram i chose

this is very good budget, though im not sure ill make it OC. ive never done it. my current system which is e4400 stock, i couldnt OC it. i think because of the mobo.

is this mobo supports voltage control for the cpu??

 

[jhyukkang]

also is 2600xt good choice for little game play?? with this budget??
im good with mid, set on crysis, i have hd 2600pro OC ICEQ, and runs that game with mid setting

 

[VoidPhantom]

The mobo is one of the best ones that can overclock.

Here is an overview on how to OC.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/newbie-oc-guide.html

But main thing before you OC, buy a good heatsink and cooler.

Here goes a list for GPU
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/04/best_cards_february_2008/

 

[lunyone]

Lets see if I can summarize a $1k build:

CPU - $230 Latest Penryn C2D. Just as easy to OC as the rest of Intels offerings.
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

Mobo - $86 shipped! Looks like good reviews and OC's well.
GIGABYTE GA-P35-S3G LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128084

GPU - $300 - $20 MIR = $280!! Latest and greatest from nVidia!!
XFX PVT88GYDF4 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150261

Case - $91 - $30 MIR = $61 Nice solid construction and affordable, not much wrong with this case. It has room for 2 8800gtx's, so you can fit pretty much anything in this case.
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10006342

PSU - $99 - $10 Google checkout = $89 shipped. Solid performer and has 5 yr. warranty. 40A on the 12V rail(s) will handle any single GPU card out there and leave room for upgrades later.
Corsair 520W SLI Certified Modular ATX Power Supply - CMPSU-520HX
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-520w-sli-certified-modular-atx-power-supply/q/loc/101/203270716.html

Memory - $74 - $40 MIR = $34 shipped! Cheapest CAS 4 DDR2 800mhz RAM. OC's well and is cheap, what else can you ask for?
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145034

DVD Burner - $34 shipped! Nice "retail" version that comes with Burning and reading software!
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106057

HD - $85 shipped!!
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140

Total ~$1,001 - $90 MIR's - $10 Google checkout = $901!!! $99 under budget! You could upgrade just about any part on the list if you like, but I think this a good solid build that will last for quite some time.

Edit: forgot to mention that the stock HSF for the CPU would be good for mild OC's and if you wanted to OC more than a Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro would be good for most OC'ing needs. If your going to push your CPU harder than I'd recommend the Thermalright Ultra 120, which is about the king right now as far as air cooled HSF's. Here's a review that Anandtech had on the AC Freezer 7 Pro and others:
http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3210&p=8

$32 shipped for AC F7P, but usually around $20-$25 at times, so check around before you buy.
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

$66 + Fan of choice $14 = $80 (which IIRC is the Scythe 120mm ones).
Thermalright Ultra-120 CPU Cooling Heatsink - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109125

$14 shipped. I'm pretty sure this is the preferred one, but someone who knows more should verify this.
Scythe SY1225SL12H 120mm Case Fan - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185059

hopefully this answers most of your questions that you mave have had.

 

[VoidPhantom]

Oh hey, I didn't know they made a new p35 from gigabyte.

And yes, get the 512MB 8800GTS, the fan for 8800GT is (kinda) horrible.

 

[Silverion77]

^^ Agree with Lunyones build

 

[amd_fanboi]

so do i, tbth... any build with an 8800GTS, i agree with

 

[jhyukkang]

thanks alot,

i might go with lunyone's choices, but i got to think,. because im trying to save as much as i can.

 

[jhyukkang]

and at the first, the reason why i wanted to go with AMD was i already have AM2 cooler which was about 30$ Rosewill something...

 

[jalpaugh1978]

Lets see if I can summarize a $1k build:

CPU - $230 Latest Penryn C2D. Just as easy to OC as the rest of Intels offerings.
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

Mobo - $86 shipped! Looks like good reviews and OC's well.
GIGABYTE GA-P35-S3G LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128084

GPU - $300 - $20 MIR = $280!! Latest and greatest from nVidia!!
XFX PVT88GYDF4 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150261

Case - $91 - $30 MIR = $61 Nice solid construction and affordable, not much wrong with this case. It has room for 2 8800gtx's, so you can fit pretty much anything in this case.
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10006342

PSU - $99 - $10 Google checkout = $89 shipped. Solid performer and has 5 yr. warranty. 40A on the 12V rail(s) will handle any single GPU card out there and leave room for upgrades later.
Corsair 520W SLI Certified Modular ATX Power Supply - CMPSU-520HX
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-520w-sli-certified-modular-atx-power-supply/q/loc/101/203270716.html

Memory - $74 - $40 MIR = $34 shipped! Cheapest CAS 4 DDR2 800mhz RAM. OC's well and is cheap, what else can you ask for?
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145034

DVD Burner - $34 shipped! Nice "retail" version that comes with Burning and reading software!
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106057

HD - $85 shipped!!
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140

Total ~$1,001 - $90 MIR's - $10 Google checkout = $901!!! $99 under budget! You could upgrade just about any part on the list if you like, but I think this a good solid build that will last for quite some time.

Edit: forgot to mention that the stock HSF for the CPU would be good for mild OC's and if you wanted to OC more than a Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro would be good for most OC'ing needs. If your going to push your CPU harder than I'd recommend the Thermalright Ultra 120, which is about the king right now as far as air cooled HSF's. Here's a review that Anandtech had on the AC Freezer 7 Pro and others:
http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3210&p=8

$32 shipped for AC F7P, but usually around $20-$25 at times, so check around before you buy.
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

$66 + Fan of choice $14 = $80 (which IIRC is the Scythe 120mm ones).
Thermalright Ultra-120 CPU Cooling Heatsink - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109125

$14 shipped. I'm pretty sure this is the preferred one, but someone who knows more should verify this.
Scythe SY1225SL12H 120mm Case Fan - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185059

hopefully this answers most of your questions that you mave have had.

 

[jhyukkang]

is building really simple? man im not sure that im picking the right parts.
so here we go
i got my 2 choices, AMD and INTEL

AMD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131013
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773

INTEL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121048
E2200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116063
or
E4500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115031

and im using same ram doesnt matter with the cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134117

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106073
ODD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144701
HDD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371001
PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609198
Card reader

not decided yet for the graphics card , case
also the cooler for INTEL
i will buy some case fans,
all these adds up to approximately 634$ with AMD, 570$ with Intel shipping not included
i got some space for graphics card!!
is this all i need??(if i forgot one LITTLE thing, please remind me)

 

[Silverion77]

Wait...whats your budget...you originally said $1000 but these rigs are only $600 so what is it.

Your missing a motherboard and I would stick with Intel and a P35 motherboard

Also you can get 2 gigs of Crucial Ballistix for $50 or others that are cheaper. That ram is expensive and not worth it

But give us a budget and we can help

 

[Dan_P]

i would save on the Tower and look at the coolmaster 690 it is 79.00 also IMO is better


EDIT: nevermind i am trippin! that is a GREAT price for that tower. i know a few on here who got it and loved it. i got one also but have not put the system together yet. Hope you can get while rebate is still going. also look at what they charge for sipping sometimes its worth it, sometimes it makes things worse and it becomes cheaper to go buy at a local shop.

 

[jhyukkang]

my budget is 1000 or 900 because of the OS

but i said i didnt choose the graphics card, case, yet

also i have chosen the mobo, under "AMD" and "intel"

reminding you that this is my first build, but i know how to put them together, though im scared. please look my post again and see they all match

 

[Silverion77]

Go with Intel....dont go AMD

Its late...but give me tomorrow and I'll get you a good build in your budget
(Go with Lunyones build its very good)

 

[MrCommunistGen]

I don't think that a Rosewill AM2 CPU cooler is worth building an AMD system... namely because Rosewill tends to make rather poor quality computer components.

Other than that I'll just chip in what everyone else is saying:
E2160 which will OC to 3.0+GHz on the stock air cooler,
Gigabyte P35-DS3L,
2GB of 800 Mhz CAS4 DDR2,
Corsair PSU (even the 450W will be fine as long as you don't do SLI), 8800GTS,
hard drive that's big enough for your needs,
optical,
case
(no opinion/preference for the last few).

You could also go for a new Penryn E8400 which will be faster than the E2160, but its more than 2x the money I think.

-mcg

 

[amd_fanboi]

and at the first, the reason why i wanted to go with AMD was i already have AM2 cooler which was about 30$ Rosewill something...

going AMD to save 30 on a cooler is not a good idea...