Good day all... just to let everyone know... the 3Gb limit with Vista 32 bit is no longer a problem. SP1 allows the system to see and use up to the full 4Gb it was designed to use. I upgraded earlier today on my laptop and have access to all four lovely Gigs of RAM on the system... Desktop will be next!!!!
I dediced to update now because I upgraded the laptop's HD and figured while I was at it I would re-install everything instead of just transfer the data stright across. Figured since I was doing that, why not go all the way and do everything. Figured if nothing else should save me the update hassle after a reformat... it definately did that... was so nice!
They do suggest waiting until Windows Update tells you to update... but you can do it now if you want to. I didn't keep the link I am afraid... but can search microsoft easy enough.
It's a good day for 4 Gb systems everywhere... hehehehe!
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Acer AM5620 Intel Q6600 2.4 Ghz Quad Core with 4GB 6400 Ram, 4x500 GB Hard Drives, Thermalright IFX-14 Cooler, and Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 Case. (Video Editing/Game Machine)
Don't mean to burst your bubble but vista only sees the 4 gigs you have installed. you still will only have 3-3.5 gigs available to use. Check task manager under the performance tab and i bet you will only see 3000-3500MBs to use
LOL. It's funny to see how many people MS' is fool'n with the 4GB on display.
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Yes, I use an Intel Quad. Sometimes its a little overclocked, sometimes a bit underclocked. Yet, its always nice and the virtualiztion is sick. And?
Message edited by scotteq on 03-21-2008 at 01:49:34 PM
--------------- The more I read the forums, the more I feel that a number of individuals would be well served by skipping their next GPU purchase in favor of a little "Stress relief" from the local 'Working Girls'"
They changed Vista to display the full amount of RAM you have plugged in, instead of the amount of RAM that is actually available for use. It's one of Microsoft's little changes that keeps people who don't understand what they are doing from emailing and calling tech support for a "problem" that they don't have.
They changed Vista to display the full amount of RAM you have plugged in, instead of the amount of RAM that is actually available for use. It's one of Microsoft's little changes that keeps people who don't understand what they are doing from emailing and calling tech support for a "problem" that they don't have.
I wonder how much more of a whinefest it will be once folks realize they still aren't using 4 gigs.
The answer to this is 'Pi' {Irrational and Infinite}
--------------- The more I read the forums, the more I feel that a number of individuals would be well served by skipping their next GPU purchase in favor of a little "Stress relief" from the local 'Working Girls'"
Don't mean to burst your bubble but vista only sees the 4 gigs you have installed. you still will only have 3-3.5 gigs available to use. Check task manager under the performance tab and i bet you will only see 3000-3500MBs to use
It's just a display change .... MS does a lotta things to make you feel better about it..... the proverbial smoke and mirrors.....it now correctly reports what you have but still doesn't actually use it.
Also watch out for lost nVidia drivers...One Vista blog user wrote:
“In retrospect, not my finest decision,” said SeppDietrich. “What a disaster! It exiled all of my Nvidia drivers to the Bermuda Triangle... they're simply all GONE.”
Also lot of hardware / software specific issues for which Vista SP1 won't install:
The questions of 3 vs 4 Gigs Ram in a 32 bit operating system is well documented as to the reason only 3.2 +/- 0.4 is available for program use ( 3.12, or less for Vista 32) on this forum and looking at Microsoft explanation. A real good insight can be gained by reading Dan’s Data www.dansdata.com/askdan00015.htm
However; I still have a question. This relates to the OLD days when 640K was normal and some had a whopping 1 Meg of memory (16 Bit OP). The 384 K above the 640 was called Upper memory. In my case I used a Program called QEMM to access this area.. This added 384K allowed a big performance boost to DOS as the memory mapping could be addressed from faster memory verses a call to BIOS.
Now for the real question that should be asked/addressed IS – where does this memory mapping reside in a system with less than 4 gigs. Is it still a BIOS call, or does XP/Vista 32 bit place this memory Map in virtual memory and if so is there a small performance boast by having it in “Real” main memory.
Note even with 3 Gigs of RAM there is still 536K reserved for DOS.
(3 Gigs equal 3,145,738 vs 3,145,192 available)
If someone has gone from 3 -> 4 Gigs, and compared the performance using a CPU/Memory benchmark, please elaborate.
