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First time build revised. 2/10/09. Critique.

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February 7, 2008 2:32:16 AM

So I took what the advice given to me so far and changed a few things. This build is mostly for gaming: WoW, Oblivion, Crysis etc. with some simple development. Please tell me if anything seems completely out of place. I decided to go with the 3870X2 as I feel it will do what I need it to do for quite some time. I want this machine to last a while. Display is a Samsung 226BW 22" Wide.

Case: Antec 900
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16811129021

PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Crossfire Edition) EPS12V 750W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16817341011

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS4 Rev. 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable II Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16817341011

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128064

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16835186134

RAM: 2x CORSAIR XMS2 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16820145176
I know this may be overkill, but for the price I don't really care.

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100221SR Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB (512MB x 2) 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814102723
This item is out of stock. How are the VisionTek/HIS/GeCube products? Should I wait or grab another?

HDD: (OS) Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822148261
(Storage) Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822148288

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate

I'm pretty anxious to order so any feedback would be much appreciated. Lemme know if something is missing/doesn't fit. Thanks.

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February 7, 2008 2:43:11 AM

do you plan on running SLI? if not i think the 680i is alittle over kill. this is a good and alittle cheaper.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

unless you are only buying the towner for looks i wouldnt pay that much for a tower. but it is always better to find one at your local shop. you get killed in shipping cost, unlike the one you chose

i got this one. its simple and wroks great
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

also for PSU i like this its more watts and cheaper in price and also its rated better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

thease are just my opinons, im sure there are other MoBo that are better, also i belive the mobo you chose comes with sound and the link i gave you dose also. i find buying a sound card right off the bat its ok, but isnt a must buy now item

February 7, 2008 7:53:54 AM

mohtahp said:
I've been reading these boards and reviews for several weeks now and I've finally decided on a build. I don't plan on doing any insane OCing, maybe just a bump. Machine will be used for mostly gaming and simple development(websites/programming). I mostly play WoW, Oblivion, Witcher, NWN2, etc. Display is a 22" NEC CRT(19??x12??) max res. Please tell me if there is anything I should change or if it looks solid. Thanks in advance.

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16811129021

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16817139002

Mobo: EVGA 122-CK-NF68-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813188013

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16819115037

Memory: CORSAIR XMS2 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16820145176

GPU: EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814130312

HDD: (OS) Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822148261
(Storage) Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822148288

Sound: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16829102006

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16835186134

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E168...

My total came out to be just over $1700, which is doable but if there's anything I can do to cut price any with little performance loss I'd be happy to hear about it. I also plan on an additional 8800GTS, so any guidance to preparing for that would be appreciated it. My main concern about that is whether or not I would need liquid. Thanks again.


If your are set on the E8400, 680i and E8400 are a poor choice when 780i and x38 are available. EVGA's 680i may finally support the dual core Penryn CPU's with a recent BIOS release, I'm not entirely sure. The upcomings Penryn quads are not likely to not be supported by the 680i. 680i also does not support PCIE 2.0 16 x 16 like the X38 and 780i.
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February 7, 2008 11:17:36 AM

Thanks the the replies thus far.

@badge: I swapped the mobo for a EVGA 780i. If there's a different brand anyone would recommened please feel free.

@Dan_P: I do plan on running SLI eventually. I also went with your advice on the PSU.
February 7, 2008 11:23:35 AM

PSU is good. Not the best but its Tier 2 last I checked.

How long till a second video card? After some time, its silly to add a second card when getting the better single card is the best.


February 7, 2008 12:47:20 PM

That's a tight build I would go with this psu:

CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply

and I don't see a optical drive listed:

Samsung SH-S203B SATA

Also not sure of the mobo I myself would stick with Asus, Gigabyte or Abit.
February 7, 2008 1:14:58 PM

Asus Maximus Extreme
February 7, 2008 1:30:26 PM

Get a Retail (rather than OEM) optical drive in order to get all the software you'll need with it. This includes the decoder for watching movies.
Particularly to save some money, I'd skip the sound card. Onboard sound is pretty decent, and you can always add it later if you still want it.
Nice case, but Newegg is currently running a deal on the Antec P182, $90 after MIR and I believe there's a coupon code EMCACAHCC for another $30 off, so $60 for a very nice case.
February 7, 2008 4:19:31 PM

Agreed... you may be surprised how good the sound is on most decent mobo's w/7.1.
February 9, 2008 3:39:44 PM

I've taken the advice given so far and pouring over reviews/items and I cannot decide. Chances are I won't go SLi for sometime, so would I be better to get a GTS G92 and step up to a 9800X2 when they drop? I have also been entertaining the idea of just getting a 3870X2, as it seems it would last me for a while and performance seems to be plenty for what I would be doing. Any advice or recommendations about this would be great. As a side note I also purchased a 226BW 22" wide the other day. I'm not sure if that will influence any decisions.

Another thing I still haven't decided on is mobo. There's just so many with so many different capabilities. I'm not really looking to "future proof" too much. I want this machine to last a while as is. I've already ordered the E8400 and my remaining budget is ~$1700. I'm still building around the original configuration posted. Thanks.
February 10, 2008 3:48:10 AM

Just revised the build and took it a little different direction. See original post. I'm anxious to order so critique/comments much appreciated. Thanks!
February 10, 2008 8:27:46 AM

Can someone just tell me if these parts will all work together? Any other opinions will be greatly appreciated.
February 10, 2008 8:35:20 AM

mohtahp said:
So I took what the advice given to me so far and changed a few things. This build is mostly for gaming: WoW, Oblivion, Crysis etc. with some simple development. Please tell me if anything seems completely out of place. I decided to go with the 3870X2 as I feel it will do what I need it to do for quite some time. I want this machine to last a while. Display is a Samsung 226BW 22" Wide.

Case: Antec 900
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16811129021

PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Crossfire Edition) EPS12V 750W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16817341011

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS4 Rev. 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Ultra Durable II Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16817341011

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128064

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16835186134

RAM: 2x CORSAIR XMS2 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16820145176
I know this may be overkill, but for the price I don't really care.

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100221SR Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB (512MB x 2) 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814102723
This item is out of stock. How are the VisionTek/HIS/GeCube products? Should I wait or grab another?

HDD: (OS) Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822148261
(Storage) Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16822148288

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate

I'm pretty anxious to order so any feedback would be much appreciated. Lemme know if something is missing/doesn't fit. Thanks.

I need one of these for myself...good build
February 10, 2008 8:55:46 AM

on your video card questions, read the reviews on newegg, and make sure they bought it from them, see what ppl are saying, thats the best source of info for how a product functions in the real world.
February 10, 2008 10:00:59 AM

On the video card, the only one I'd specifically avoid from personal experience is Diamond.
The PSU is bigger than you need, but it's a really good one. Unless you need to lower the cost, keep it; if you do, mlaporta listed a good Corsair unit.
Otherwise looks good.
February 10, 2008 12:07:27 PM

All of that highend stuff and your cheaping out on the HSF? Pick something that better suits your awesome computer!

Scythe Ninja, or ultra-120/120 extreme are good choices :) 

Also look at the seagate 7200.11 drives, they are much better than the 7200.10 series
February 10, 2008 5:34:47 PM

Well I've put some comps together before but I don't now if i'm ready to lap or anything. I'm scared I'll mess someting up. Is it that difficult?
February 10, 2008 8:54:27 PM

There's no reason to lap anything unless you're going for the absolutely highest overclock possible. It doesn't look to me like you've got that kind of silliness in mind.
February 10, 2008 9:11:18 PM

Plus its voids the warantee with INTEL, and also most merchandisers, its not the days of the p4 anymore where they would let you get away with laping anyhow.
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