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Chalk one up for another satisfied 4GHz E8400 owner 
Reply to Beurling
True, just like the B3 Errata.
Never going to happen in everyday use and look at all of the slagging off on here (and how many owners are there? 
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Reply to LukeBird
| ocguy31 wrote : The hype surrounding these chips, on this board and others, has caused everyone who can access BIOS to screw with the FSB. They think that because one person got 4.2ghz on air with thiers, that they should try. People spend much time reading about messing with RAM timings and the FSB, and have no idea what voltages are, or what is safe/unsafe. I dont feel sorry for people that burn chips this way. I actually saw a guy bitch that he couldnt get his over 4ghz (33% OC!!!) so he was RMAing it. Ludicrous. |
Its called "Common Sense", something that seems to have disappeared from the worlds population some where around 1985 and replaced with 24 hour TV, Mass Media (hype) and followed a decade or so later by the internet. The internet allow everyone to consume as much BS as they produce, creating an intellectual vacuum, which was filled by fanboys and porn. 
Reply to JonnyRock
| JonnyRock wrote : Its called "Common Sense", something that seems to have disappeared from the worlds population some where around 1985 and replaced with 24 hour TV, Mass Media (hype) and followed a decade or so later by the internet. The internet allow everyone to consume as much BS as they produce, creating an intellectual vacuum, which was filled by fanboys and porn. |
nice words, very true
Heh... it all boils down to:
1.) Having the correct most updated bios.
2.) Knowing a work around (Disabling DTS Feature on some MB).
3.) Understanding the 3 sensors (Tcase,Tjuction)
4.) Having some accuracy on ambient temps.
5.) Having good airflow.
6.) And knowing how to correctly install the HSF on a 775 socket MB.
Also knowing the right kind of chipsets on MB that can handle OC better. I find it kind of crazy to OC to 4ghz myself, but still impressive without water cooling. I find 3-3.6ghz fast enough.
But there are unhappy people out there, wanting to put their mark somewhere to stress out their frustrations. I find it kinda funny how some people call the sensor problem that serious when they don't understand how the problem occurs. As well with the Phenom bug, which people don't seem to understand it, and want to totally avoid it. But then, to get random BSOD is just frustrating all in its own, when your trying to get more speed out of it.
One of these days, we'll look back at this and laugh our butts off when the technology advances to a higher level. . o O (remember the days when the...)
| Quote : If the same lie about the E8400's is repeated enough times, does it become fact in some people's minds?
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Reply to physx7
MrsBytch wrote :
Spoken like a true Intel fanboy. You mean just like the Intel fanboys while they were getting spanked by AMD from 2003 to 2006? |
End of discussion? Guess she didn't get her crystal ball back yet.
Well... Phenom has a B3 Stepping that is to correct that problem. I mean if it wasn't really that serious, then why bother to even have a B3 stepping or articles explain that?
Now if there an actual serious problem with the E8400, shouldn't we be seeing a new stepping soon that says the DTS is now fixed? So far I haven't seen anything on that. But then I'm not looking forward in getting another dual core. 
Message edited by Grimmy on 02-28-2008 at 09:02:30 PM
MrsBytch wrote :
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. o O (?)
AMD Phenom B3 stepping confirmed to fix TLB erratum - Friday, 11 January 2008
| Quote : Since not long after the release of AMD's Phenom series of CPUs, we've been informed that the infamous TLB erratum which plagues these parts, impacting their performance, will be fixed in a forthcoming 'B3' stepping. However, this assertion has been thrown into doubt in recent days due to an article on French web site EreNumeRique, which was later picked up by The Inquirer, suggesting that the erratum had not been fixed in the 'B3' stepping, creating the need for AMD to go back to the drawing board yet again for another spin of the silicon.
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Phenom B3 is right around the corner... - Date: February 9th, 2008
| Quote : The bouncing ball release schedule for the long awaited Phenom B3 revision that fixes the Translation Lookaside Buffer (TLB) errata has taken a favorable bounce according to our sources. Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) plans on releasing three versions into the retail market in the early April time frame. Fortunately for consumers, it appears that AMD will change the product designations in order to differentiate the B3 series from the current B2 release. |
AMD Plans to Introduce New AMD Phenom Chips in April - 02/08/2008
| Quote : AMD Phenom processor models 9550 (2.20GHz), 9650 (2.30GHz) and 9750 (2.40GHz) will be released commercially about eight weeks from now, sometime in April, a source familiar with the world’s second largest x86 chipmaker’s plans said. The new chips will be based on the B3 revision of the processor and will not have any issues with Translation Lookaside Buffer. The destiny of the high-speed AMD Phenom 9950 is unclear at the moment.
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What have you been reading?
Message edited by Grimmy on 02-29-2008 at 04:58:53 PM
| JonnyRock wrote : Its called "Common Sense", something that seems to have disappeared from the worlds population some where around 1985 and replaced with 24 hour TV, Mass Media (hype) and followed a decade or so later by the internet. The internet allow everyone to consume as much BS as they produce, creating an intellectual vacuum, which was filled by fanboys and porn. |
Whats wrong with porn?
Reply to spaztic7
Reply to JonnyRock
| NewbieTechGodII wrote : I think anyone who OC's anything on their PC should be charged with theft because they are stealing from the poor old chipmakers. |
. o O (what?)
You spend your hard earn money on something that GIVES you (I'm talking bios settings) features to OC the CPU or Memory (products for enthusiasts) or even buy video cards that are OC'd and maybe try to get a lil more out of it, and you call it stealling?
That's like saying... I think people that alter the cars to use bio diesel should be charged with theft because they are stealing from old oil companies.
The only thing those two things do share, is making a better product work better. 
| JonnyRock wrote : Its called "Common Sense", something that seems to have disappeared from the worlds population some where around 1985 and replaced with 24 hour TV, Mass Media (hype) and followed a decade or so later by the internet. The internet allow everyone to consume as much BS as they produce, creating an intellectual vacuum, which was filled by fanboys and porn. |
that is as true as mathmatics
Reply to reconviperone1
| JonnyRock wrote : Its called "Common Sense", something that seems to have disappeared from the worlds population some where around 1985 and replaced with 24 hour TV, Mass Media (hype) and followed a decade or so later by the internet. The internet allow everyone to consume as much BS as they produce, creating an intellectual vacuum, which was filled by fanboys and porn. |
Going by your definition I would have called that "Citizen's Band Radio" that disappeared; it fits all the descriptions you ascribe to the Internet.... it disappeared around 1985... was replaced by 24 hour TV, Mass Media, and "Information Overload"... and cell phones.
Back then people would talk trash... and everyone would get the message to meet at 7-11 for coffee.
Now they talk trash... and everyone gets intant messaged to meet at Starbucks.
(And the level of intelligence on both the Internet now and the CB radio back then is surprisingly similar.)
Message edited by keithlm on 03-01-2008 at 07:15:53 PM
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