leo2kp :
I personally have no problem with an X2 card even if it's not the fastest. If that's the best ATI can do, well then I guess that's what they should do. Weather or not cost/performance is an issue is another story. I'm not saying I agree with NVidia's statement, but I don't think he's being overly hypocritical either. I think it's just a major viewpoint difference.
ATI doesn't seem to care if an X2 card is the fastest ever and that's fine. He would be more of an a$$ if the 9800GX2 was not the fastest card ever, and I'm expecting it to be!
"Fastest card ever" is relative. I expect the 9800gx2 to be the fastest in absolute fps in some games, but to lag in others, just as the 3870x2 does. It all depends on SLI and Crossfire support. The value of these cards is that they offer internal SLI or Crossfire for those of us who do not have SLI or Crossfire boards.
Plus, Triple SLI and CrossfireX allow people with single PCIe x16 boards to get the dual GPU cards now and then when they upgrade, match those cards with a similar newer card for better performance. I'm thinking that the upcoming 4850, also clocked at 850, would do well alongside the 3870x2.
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7356.html
I keep saying this, but I can't wait for the Phenom 9750. Actually, I can't wait for a 3.2 gigahertz Deneb, but I'll settle for the 9750 this year. With a CrossfireX setup and a new LCD monitor, I should have a good gaming system. Not as good as those Wolfies overclocked to 4 gigahertz that will only last for a year, but still good enough for anything I throw at it between May 2008 and December 2009.
homerdog :
%u201CWe would do an [ATI Radeon HD 3870] X2-like product only if it delivers performance that is simply not possible anywhere with a single GPU. But there%u2019s no question that a single GPU is a better approach. [%u2026] So you know my preference and you know we have a lot of evidence and certainly know for sure that a single GPU is the best approach, but if a double GPU can deliver the highest performance on the planet, it would be accepted,%u201D Mr. Huang explained.
Well at least he's being honest and saying that dual GPU cards are far from ideal. It sounds to me like he doesn't really like the 9800GX2, but as the CEO he has to bite his tongue and justify its place in the market.
Sounds to me he's just bitter. Considering that AMD almost merged with Nvidia instead of ATI, but Huang wanted to be the CEO of the new company and Ruiz wouldn't go for it, plus the rumor that Nvidia still wants to buy AMD but Nvidia's partners won't go for it, I can see him having problems with anything ATI does to compete against Nvidia.
Looks to me that the 9800gx2, no matter how fast it is, was a quick solution to the elegance of the 3870x2. What he doesn't want to see is another 7950, and he might be seeing that. Edited to add, I just found a different report, not done by a professional site, but a good CPU was used for the benchmark; 14180 in default:
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=229048
In all honesty, I'm CPU limited here and only get 9547 with my card, but I'll give it another go when I get a quad core. I believe that 9800gx2 benchmark was done with an Intel extreme edition CPU, so the 9800gx2 should have gotten closer to 15000 than 10000.