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February 9, 2008 12:31:52 PM

Is it possible to make a $500 system shipped off newegg/zipzoomfly that can play hl2 at max settings @ 1280 x 1024? Any help is appreciated. This is a low end gaming system I suppose.

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a b 4 Gaming
February 9, 2008 1:10:23 PM

My suggestion after looking at Egg today for a $500ish rig:

5400 Brisbane = $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Artic Cooling 64 Pro CPU Cooler = $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Biostar T770 motherboard= $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GeCube HD 3850 graphics card = $150 (MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
NZXT Alpha PC casing = $45 (MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Themaltake 500W Power Supply = $40 (MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Burner = $25
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
250GB/16mb cache Hrad Disk = $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2GB Patriot Xtreme RAM = $25 (MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = $572 including shipping..maybe the experienced gurus could nitpick hehe
February 9, 2008 1:39:38 PM

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: CAC-T05-UW
Item #: N82E16811119068

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock $49.99 -$10.00 Instant $39.99

Update AMC 6 ft. DVI(Male to Male) Dual Link Digital Cable Model DVI-DD1006 - OEM
Model #: DVI-DD1006
Item #: N82E16812105814

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock $8.99 $8.99

Update BIOSTAR TA770 A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: TA770 A2+
Item #: N82E16813138102

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock $79.99 $79.99

Update AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Black Edition Processor Model ADO5000DSWOF - Retail
Model #: ADO5000DSWOF
Item #: N82E16819103194

Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

In Stock $99.99 $99.99

Update G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Model #: F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ
Item #: N82E16820231098

Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy

In Stock $86.99 -$40.00 Instant $46.99

Update Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD1600AAJS
Item #: N82E16822136075

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock $49.99 $49.99

Update ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
Model #: Freezer 64 Pro
Item #: N82E16835185125

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock $29.99 -$10.00 Instant $19.99

Update ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail
Model #: MX-2R
Item #: N82E16835186020

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock $6.99 $6.99
Subtotal: $352.92

That's what ive come up with so far.
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February 9, 2008 1:56:49 PM

^ that's a good build, so far ^^
February 9, 2008 2:03:52 PM

I just need a recommendation on a power supply. I might get a corsair vx 450 for 62 shipped brand new but its not definate. I have chosen an evga 8600 gts video card.
February 9, 2008 5:20:02 PM
February 9, 2008 10:49:05 PM

This is what ive picked out AMC 6 ft. DVI(Male to Male) Dual Link Digital Cable Model DVI-DD1006 - OEM
Item #: N82E16812105814
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $8.99

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119068
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$10.00 Instant $49.99
$39.99

Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136075
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
$49.99

BIOSTAR TA770 A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813138102
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
$79.99

Antec earthwatts EA430 ATX12V v2.0 430W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371006
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant $69.99
$54.99

ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail
Item #: N82E16835186020
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $6.99

G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231098
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy -$40.00 Instant $86.99
$46.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Black Edition Processor Model ADO5000DSWOF - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103194
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
$99.99

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835185125
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$10.00 Instant $29.99
$19.99



HIS Hightech H385F256NP Radeon HD 3850 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814161211
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy


HIS Stereo Headphone with Microphone - Retail
Item #: N82E16800997024
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$5.00 Instant
-$19.99 Combo $194.98
$169.99
Subtotal: $577.90

Only 100 above my price but I can deal with that.
February 10, 2008 12:27:04 AM

Can you provide some OC advice for the motherboard/cpu combo?
February 10, 2008 12:59:04 AM

"Can you provide some OC advice for the motherboard/cpu combo?"
Absolutely.... I have built quite a few of these systems lately... With this memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

an E2160, and either the Gigabyte P35 DS3L or this MB:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I got the Biostar for $69 (open box on Newegg).
Now I have a spare system on my LAN when friends when drop by. It is running @ 3240 with a Radeon X1950 Pro 512mb. The video card could stand an update, but the system only cost me $300. Already had the card from my old system, my old 22" monitor, case, PSU, and DVD. If you need any specific BIOS settings let me know.
February 10, 2008 2:17:48 AM

$495 delivered

February 10, 2008 2:38:15 AM

The only thing I would change would be the MB... The 945 won't overclock as well as a P965 or P35. Otherwise looks good.
a b 4 Gaming
February 10, 2008 6:50:35 AM

I think it very poor advice not to mention irresponsible to assume everyone out there would hit a certain speed while overclocking as we all know those not familiar would more likely fry their systems? If that were the case i would tell him that 5000 Black would 100% hit 3Ghz by just playing with the multiplier and we call it a day? With OCing YMMV as they say. I would even add $20 more to my proposed build, go with stock HSF and 5600 Windsor @ 2.8Ghz/2MB cache right of the box but if you have a mate who could be right by your side to guarantee that 3.2Ghz clock and run all stability tests then by all means... Even the much touted E8400 if you read on tech/hardware forums has heat issues when over clocking and these are reported by people far more experienced than most?

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=545708

Lastly for certain price points i would not readily dismiss the AMD option but for the top end there would be very little reasons to go AMD when gaming rigs are concerned IMO. Cheers ^^
February 10, 2008 7:36:17 AM

dos1986 said:
Edit change the ram to...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You also forgot the fire extinguisher he is going to need when that cheap PSU flames out. It only has 23.3 amps on the 12v rail, and the vid card recommends a PSU with 30a 12v+ for the system. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=1...

The Corsair 450vx would be a better choice.

The original DDR2 800 would also be a better choice. It will only run at DDR2 667 speed, but will still work fine and is a better deal.
February 10, 2008 12:48:55 PM

I am very confused, I chose an antec earthwatt 430 and it should be good enough because it provides 34a with the two rails. Should I go with the brisbane simply becuase its easier to just change the multiplier and have a greater chance of hitting 3.0 ghz? Or should I go with the allendale. The p35 seems like an outdated board with a regular pci-e 1.0 slot. The biostar that I would have chosen has pci-e 2.0. It is about a 20 dollar difference between the two combos.
February 10, 2008 3:20:12 PM

"I think it very poor advice not to mention irresponsible to assume everyone out there would hit a certain speed while overclocking as we all know those not familiar would more likely fry their systems? If that were the case i would tell him that 5000 Black would 100% hit 3Ghz by just playing with the multiplier and we call it a day? With OCing YMMV as they say. I would even add $20 more to my proposed build, go with stock HSF and 5600 Windsor @ 2.8Ghz/2MB cache right of the box but if you have a mate who could be right by your side to guarantee that 3.2Ghz clock and run all stability tests then by all means... Even the much touted E8400 if you read on tech/hardware forums has heat issues when over clocking and these are reported by people far more experienced than most?"


Virtually all E2160s will hit 3.2 ghz. Right out of the box you can change the fsb to 333 and run at 3ghz 100% stable which is faster than the Athlon 64 X2 6400. If you are not playing with voltages, there is NO risk of hurting the CPU. Additionally you can bump the voltage to 1.4 without any risk with the stock cooler, and this will almost gurantee 3.2 ghz. Which is the same performance as the E8400. I would certainly recommend adding a $16 HSF....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Bottom line is most 5th grader can handle this with the right info...

Most heat problems with Core 2 processors are due to poor HSF contact. You must make sure to clean both surfaces with alcohol and use a good thermal paste like Arctic Silver 5 if you plan to overclock. I wrote a review on the Rosewill RCX-Z775-LX 92mm, and mentioned it needs a few minutes of polishing work to make it a really great cooler. Still nothing a 14 year old couldn't handle.
February 10, 2008 3:31:06 PM

"I am very confused, I chose an antec earthwatt 430 and it should be good enough because it provides 34a with the two rails. Should I go with the brisbane simply becuase its easier to just change the multiplier and have a greater chance of hitting 3.0 ghz? Or should I go with the allendale. The p35 seems like an outdated board with a regular pci-e 1.0 slot. The biostar that I would have chosen has pci-e 2.0. It is about a 20 dollar difference between the two combos."

Any Antec supply is likely better than most. The 430 should be fine for most applications that don't use SLI or Crossfire. People on these boards tend to over recommend.
Second, the P35 chipset is not an outdated chipset, and in my opinion is currently the best bang for the buck. Especially considering it supports all newer CPUs. Certainly better than anything Nvidia has to offer. Even the P965 is still a great option in most cases. The only reason I would go with an X38 would be if you have tons of money, and really must have DDR 3.

I also wanted to mention that the Thermaltake 500 PSU recommended is a fine unit, and I recently used one of these. Absolute bargain for the money. Thermaltake is a great brand.

February 10, 2008 3:45:53 PM

You might have to re-analyz your total cost when you realize you'll need an OS, unless you plan I using linux
February 10, 2008 5:54:56 PM

I think the X2 5000+ BE with the HD3850 would make a GREAT combo...as long as you got 2gb of ddr2 800 ram (which is ridiculously cheap), your system will easily handle HL2...btw, HL2 is known for not being very hardware demanding, even though it's still looks gorgeous :) 
February 10, 2008 5:59:24 PM

Forgot to mention that MY current system easily handles HL2 (cs source, episode 1 and 2) maxed out @ 1280x1024.
The system you are considering would destroy my rig...lol
February 10, 2008 11:15:39 PM

amd_fanboi said:
does the 2160 REALLY contend with the E8400 when clocked @ 3.2ghz???

btw, here's a Tom's article the OP can look at... works for the E2140, but still...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/248754-13-possible-...

(thanks to closed_deal ^^)


http://www.photolava.com/view/dd8i.html

At 3.2ghz the E2160 is about even with the E8400 at stock 3ghz. They are nearly identical running most real world and synthetic benchmarks. Obviously I would choose the E8400 where money isn't a problem since they are faster clock for clock, and will run at 4ghz or higher.... But the E2160 will go to 3.6ghz with water cooling which actually makes it faster than the stock E8400.
When you get to the point of watercooling, the $74 bargain price of the E2160 isn't as much of an advantage. The reason I choose this CPU over the E2140 is that the 9x multiplier makes it easier to get good overclocks with bargain memory and middle of the road MBs." alt="" class="imgLz frmImg " />
February 11, 2008 12:42:01 AM

COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119068
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$10.00 Instant $49.99
$39.99

Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136075
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
$49.99

ASUS Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A3T - Retail
Item #: N82E16827135143
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $20.99

Antec earthwatts EA430 ATX12V v2.0 430W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371006
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant $69.99
$54.99

ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Retail
Item #: N82E16835186020
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $6.99

A-DATA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ADQVE1A16K - Retail
Item #: N82E16820211066
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy $10.00 Mail-in Rebate $45.99

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128059
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
$99.99

Intel Pentium E2160 Allendale 1.8GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80557E2160 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819116036
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
$73.99



HIS Hightech H385F256NP Radeon HD 3850 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814161211
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy


HIS Stereo Headphone with Microphone - Retail
Item #: N82E16800997024
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$5.00 Instant
-$19.99 Combo $194.98
$169.99

final build i guess.
February 11, 2008 1:02:50 AM

Tigerdirect.com has the e2180 onsale for $59.99 and it has a 10x multiplier. I have that exact same DvD burner and I dont recommend it. It takse quite a while to read any disc that has been burned. Sometimes you have to eject it and re insert for it to recognize it. Latest firmware didnt fix it. Back to LG or Sony for me.
February 11, 2008 1:13:44 AM

roadrunner197069 said:
Tigerdirect.com has the e2180 onsale for $59.99 and it has a 10x multiplier. I have that exact same DvD burner and I dont recommend it. It takse quite a while to read any disc that has been burned. Sometimes you have to eject it and re insert for it to recognize it. Latest firmware didnt fix it. Back to LG or Sony for me.


That E2180 sounds like a bargain if shipping is cheap. I have had great luck with the LG DVDs, but had more than a couple bad Samsungs.
February 11, 2008 1:27:58 AM

mm I was hoping on 600 shipped but this is coming out to 635. I wish somebody could give me a free shipping code or newegg had an OEM version of the processor. BTw that e2180 is 59.99 after a rebate.
February 11, 2008 1:33:58 AM

Instant rebate as in before you pay. Its not a mail in rebate. So ya its $59.99.
February 11, 2008 1:46:28 AM

What about OS? $500 for a gaming computer is hard especially when the graphic card cost 1/2 the build price.

I get $560 total with shipping just skimming through quick and that doesnt include a OS. e2180 cpu, 2g ram, 3850, 450w psu, cheap case , cheap mobo, DVD burner, 500g HDD,
February 11, 2008 1:47:03 AM

I think a corsair vx 450 would be a better psu.
February 11, 2008 1:49:21 AM

Wow the bastards changed it it was instant. Boo. Still a good deal.
February 11, 2008 3:01:57 AM


Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
($50 You can always modd later)
PS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
($40)
MB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
($50)
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
($83)
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
($47 OC's well)
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
($55)
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
($28)
VID: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
($210)


Total, No OS: $552 + S&H (probably could get away with a 3850 tho)
Vid: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
($170, it's $40 cheaper and will run HL2 easily)(comes to $512 with the 3850)

It's easier to price for an AMD system tho. See my next post for this.
February 11, 2008 3:21:22 AM
a b 4 Gaming
February 11, 2008 3:51:35 AM

Case - $50 shipped
COOLER MASTER Centurion 534 RC-534-SKN2-GP Black / Silver Aluminum & Mesh bezel / SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - $55 Plenty of power w/30A on the 12V rails and can handle any single GPU solution out there. Checkout what the 380w version can do, by looking at my link in my signature.
Antec earthwatts EA430 ATX12V v2.0 430W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, FCC, TUV, CE, CB, C-tick, CCC - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD - $57 shipped. Plenty of room to start. If you need more, either buy more now or just add another one later.
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - $185 Plenty of power for 12x10 gaming. Will be able to handle a bigger LCD/monitor later easier, if you end up using a higher resolution.
DIAMOND Viper 3850PE3512O Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory - $65 - $25 MIR = $40 shipped!! Some of the best OC'ing CAS 4 memory out there. Definately a buy when OC'ing or needing fast DDR2.
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HSF - $26 shipped! One of the better bang for the buck aftermarket HSF's for the AM2 CPU's.
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - $100 shipped. Easiest AM2 to OC to 3 ghz without raising HT or voltages.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Black Edition Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - $97 shipped! Phenom compatable, so you can upgrade to B3 Phenom if you think you'll go that way.
ASUS M3A AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total w/shipping $626 - $25 MIR = $601! Now if your going to spend $600 on an AMD system this would be a nice one, but you could spend less.

OR going with an Intel build you could go with these changes from the above build:
CPU - $83 shipped! OC' even easier than the e2160, since it has a 10x multiplier.
Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - $96 -30 MIR = $66!! OC's very well and is very cheap right now. Can't pass this one up!
ABIT IP35-E LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total ~$587 - $55 MIR's = $532 shipped! This is cheaper and performs just as well as the AMD setup above and save about $60 too. :)  You'll have to make little BIOS changes (just like the AMD setup), but you'll be just fine at 3 ghz with this setup. You could probably go to 3.2 ghz without too much effort.

You can decide which way to go, but the AMD setup has PCI-e 2.0 slot and the Intel doesn't. Not sure if that is really going to be an issue at this budget, but it might be for you. If you really need to be at the $500 budget, than there would obviously need to be changes to meet that budget.
a b 4 Gaming
February 11, 2008 12:05:50 PM

I think thread starter is alien to OC and i am surprised non of the forumites at least enlighten him on the dangers of overclocking and at least tell him that there are risks/complications when an OC goes wrong , how durability is shortened in a system and as well as heat issues. Sure any 14 year old can get his hands wet with overclocking but 14 year olds also jump to just about any venture without assessing the risks? I hate to be a wet blanket but at the very least read this article:

http://www.pcguide.com/opt/oc/risksRisksCPU-c.html

If you must, i suggest getting a more experienced friend to teach you the ropes. I am not belittling your abilities just trying to be sensible and looking out for your investment hehe. That said i am the type who would prefer a guaranteed out of the box performance so :p  Good luck and may you enjoy your future rig ^^

@lunyone : Read reviews of M3A770 and if i were to go 770 by reviews i've been following i would pick Biostar or Gigabyte for slightly more (read some problems about M3A 770+ Vista+phenom)
Am intending to build a HTPC with upcoming 780G mATX mobo and B3 9550 phenom later this year ^^
February 11, 2008 1:35:26 PM
February 11, 2008 2:54:20 PM

"I think thread starter is alien to OC and i am surprised non of the forumites at least enlighten him on the dangers of overclocking and at least tell him that there are risks/complications when an OC goes wrong , how durability is shortened in a system and as well as heat issues. Sure any 14 year old can get his hands wet with overclocking but 14 year olds also jump to just about any venture without assessing the risks? I hate to be a wet blanket but at the very least read this article:


http://www.pcguide.com/opt/oc/risksRisksCPU-c.html"

This link is nonsense, and only applies to old processors... As you can see the example is a Pentium 75...lol As I stated earlier, there is no risk as long as voltages remain stock. Most motherboards undervolt the CPU anyway. Sure you need to pay attention to heat, but if you are building your own system you need to make sure the HSF is seated properly. Again this is not rocket science with current motherboards, and BIOS that is specifically designed for overclocking. Do not play with voltages unless you know what you are doing. As previous articles on Toms Hardware have mentioned, all current model Core 2 processors are designed to run at speeds up to the highest rating for that series. In the case of the E2140-E2180, they will all run 100% cool & stable at 3ghz with NO voltage increase and the stock cooler. Are you really worried your CPU won't last 20 years if you overclock? Do a little research before posting nonsense!
February 11, 2008 2:59:55 PM

vtr99 said:
"I think thread starter is alien to OC and i am surprised non of the forumites at least enlighten him on the dangers of overclocking and at least tell him that there are risks/complications when an OC goes wrong , how durability is shortened in a system and as well as heat issues. Sure any 14 year old can get his hands wet with overclocking but 14 year olds also jump to just about any venture without assessing the risks? I hate to be a wet blanket but at the very least read this article:


http://www.pcguide.com/opt/oc/risksRisksCPU-c.html"

This link is nonsense, and only applies to old processors... As you can see the example is a Pentium 75...lol As I stated earlier, there is no risk as long as voltages remain stock. Most motherboards undervolt the CPU anyway. Sure you need to pay attention to heat, but if you are building your own system you need to make sure the HSF is seated properly. Again this is not rocket science with current motherboards, and BIOS that is specifically designed for overclocking. Do not play with voltages unless you know what you are doing. As previous articles on Toms Hardware have mentioned, all current model Core 2 processors are designed to run at speeds up to the highest rating for that series. In the case of the E2140-E2180, they will all run 100% cool & stable at 3ghz with NO voltage increase and the stock cooler. Are you really worried your CPU won't last 20 years if you overclock? Do a little research before posting nonsense!


THANK YOU!!! TOTALLY AGREE!!! :sol: 
February 11, 2008 3:17:47 PM

I ordered my parts off newegg. I bought the corsair 450 powersupply off of buy.com. I kept the 3850, allendale, p35, and gskill ram. Hopefully I will be able to OC with the rosewill HSF.
February 11, 2008 3:24:41 PM

you'll be able to hit 3.0ghz with the stock HSF ^^. enjoy the build...
February 11, 2008 4:59:34 PM

harr89 said:
I ordered my parts off newegg. I bought the corsair 450 powersupply off of buy.com. I kept the 3850, allendale, p35, and gskill ram. Hopefully I will be able to OC with the rosewill HSF.


You are going to be pleasantly surprised with the speed of your setup for the money spent. That Corsair 450 will be solid as a rock... Money well spent! As I said earlier that Rosewill HSF is fantastic for the money, but you will need to polish the surface with some 400-600 grit sandpaper, and then hit it with some metal polish to get maximum performance. When you remove the stock thermal paste you will see a fairly coarse finish. By polishing, you will greatly increase the contact area, and the cooling ability. Mine is currently idling at 25c, and running about 50 to 55c after an hour of running Orthos @3.24 ghz. I have my Rosewill aimed at the back of the case, with 2 80mm fans pulling air in the same direction out of the case, and 1 120mm fan pulling air over the HD into the case. This old case also has an 80mm on the side pulling cool air in front of the HSF. You will have no problem hitting 3ghz, it's like falling off a log. From there just increase the fsb about 5mhz at a time until it fails to post, then just back it off about 10 mhz... Run Orthos to check stability while watching Core temp.

Have fun with your new system!
February 11, 2008 7:47:23 PM

Only thing I dislike is buy.com long shipping times. Ill probably recieve my newegg parts tomorrow as they are already at TN today. My buy.com didn't even leave the warehouse yet :( 
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February 11, 2008 10:57:37 PM

vtr99 said:
"I think thread starter is alien to OC and i am surprised non of the forumites at least enlighten him on the dangers of overclocking and at least tell him that there are risks/complications when an OC goes wrong , how durability is shortened in a system and as well as heat issues. Sure any 14 year old can get his hands wet with overclocking but 14 year olds also jump to just about any venture without assessing the risks? I hate to be a wet blanket but at the very least read this article:


http://www.pcguide.com/opt/oc/risksRisksCPU-c.html"

This link is nonsense, and only applies to old processors... As you can see the example is a Pentium 75...lol As I stated earlier, there is no risk as long as voltages remain stock. Most motherboards undervolt the CPU anyway. Sure you need to pay attention to heat, but if you are building your own system you need to make sure the HSF is seated properly. Again this is not rocket science with current motherboards, and BIOS that is specifically designed for overclocking. Do not play with voltages unless you know what you are doing. As previous articles on Toms Hardware have mentioned, all current model Core 2 processors are designed to run at speeds up to the highest rating for that series. In the case of the E2140-E2180, they will all run 100% cool & stable at 3ghz with NO voltage increase and the stock cooler. Are you really worried your CPU won't last 20 years if you overclock? Do a little research before posting nonsense!


Hmm i think if being the first person in the thread *not* painting a 100% rosy picture when OCing makes the post nonsensical then i cannot understand your rationale? No one mentioned about heat and durability and i do not think someone new to OC should just dismiss these as trivial but i guess others have different opinions? Not trying to discourage TS from OCing but at least share with him possible issues to expect - cheers and do share with us how your build went ^^
February 12, 2008 1:23:45 AM




everything looks good but I suggest going with a little bigger psu


http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-vx-550w-power-supply/q/...
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this would give quite a bit of headway if he wants to upgrade in the future
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