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Guys I have a question, is my computer good enough to run new Computer games (COD4, Crysis, Frontlines: Fuel of War) if not then can you tell me what to get at a cheap price? thanks
 
System Specs:
 
Windows:             Windows XP5.1 (Build 2600) Service Pack 2
Internet Explorer:   7.0.5730.11
Memory (RAM):        1024 MB
CPU Info:            AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
CPU Speed:           2207.5 MHz
Sound card:          Realtek AC97 Audio
Display Adapters:    RADEON 9600 SERIES  | RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary  | NetMeeting driver | RDPDD Chained DD
Screen Resolution:   1024 X 768 - 32 bit
Network:             Network Present
Network Adapters:    SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport
CD / DVD Drives:     E: HL-DT-STDVDRRW GWA-4083B | F: SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A
COM Ports:           COM3 | COM1
LPT Ports:           LPT1
Mouse:               16 Button Wheel Mouse Present
Hard Disks:          C:  143.2GB | D:  5.8GB
Hard Disks - Free:   C:  93.9GB | D:  762.8MB
USB Controllers:     4 host controllers.
Firewire (1394):     1 host controllers.
PCMCIA (Laptops):    Not Installed
Manufacturer:        Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Product Make:        PP149AA-ABA A736N
AC Power Status:     OnLine
BIOS Info:           AT/AT COMPATIBLE | 10/29/04 | AWARD  - 42302e31
Time Zone:           Eastern Standard Time
Battery:             No Battery
Motherboard:         ASUSTek Computer INC. Salmon
Modem:               Agere Systems PCI Soft Modem
 
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I know for Crysis those specs are borderline....
Minimum Specs:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+/Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz;
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 / ATI Radeon X800GTO (SM 2.0);
RAM: 768MB/1GB on Windows Vista;
HDD: 6GB;
Internet: 256k+;
Optical Drive: DVD;
Software: DirectX 9.0c with Windows XP.
 
Recommended Specs:
CPU: Dual-core processor (Athlon X2/Pentium D/Core 2 Duo);
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX / ATI Radeon X1800XT (SM3.0) or DirectX10 equivalent;
RAM: 1.5GB;
HDD: 6GB;
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream);
Optical Drive: DVD;
Software: DirectX 10 with Windows Vista
 
For the COD you are a little better, but still just barely above minimum specs.  Your video is OK, but you should bump up to an X2 and 2GB of RAM if your MB supports it


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so are you saying just get a new computer or what?

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netpcdoc wrote :

For the COD you are a little better, but still just barely above minimum specs.  Your video is OK, but you should bump up to an X2 and 2GB of RAM if your MB supports it


 
Are you sure? I tried COD2 on my 9500 Pro and it was a slideshow in DX9 mode (OK in DX7 though). The 9600 is generally less powerful than the 9500 Pro and I have a hard time believing that COD4 is less GPU-hungry.

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Define "Good enough"
 
The RAM is weak for even office usage and you'll need a second hard drive if you wanna have a lot of games on there at same time.
 
CPU and GPU determine fps so "what you are willing to live with" will be the determining factor.

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JackNaylorPE wrote :

Define "Good enough"
 
The RAM is weak for even office usage and you'll need a second hard drive if you wanna have a lot of games on there at same time.
 
CPU and GPU determine fps so "what you are willing to live with" will be the determining factor.


 
I want to be able to run games with little load time and great FPS, so are you saying to me get a new computer?

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It's tough to say whether you need to replace the ENTIRE computer without knowing a few more specifics, but you are looking at needing some major upgrades. DO you know if your CPU is a socket 939 or a socket AM2? If it's an AM2 you can probably upgrade you memory and CPU but keep the same motherboard for not too much money. If it's a 939 you are better off building a new system from scratch.
 
What is your current power supply? You are going to want to get a better graphics card, which will have significantly higher power demands than your current card so you may need to buy a new power supply to handle the extra load.

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Yes you need a new PC.  
 
Time to figure out how much you are willing to spend. You don't strike me as an enthusiast who is going to build his/her own PC. Therefore, figure about $1,000 - $1,200 for a PC made by Dell for gaming; that's on the low end too.


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I want to be able to run games with little load time and great FPS, so are you saying to me get a new computer?


Don't we all?  :D    What's your budget? You can either buy a new computer or upgrade what you have. What model motherboard?? If socket 939 and PCI-e, you could fit an Opteron dual core, GF8800GT and another 1Gb of RAM.
 
       Mike.

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1)  The graphics card is much too slow for modern games
2)  The CPU is barely adequate for modern games
3)  The Hard Disk is fine, more capacity is a luxury
4)  1GB of RAM is barely adequate; 2GB will greatly improve usability
 
If going for the most cost efficient route, upgrade to a faster AGP card - something in the x1600 or x1900 series would do pretty well and cost between $80-150.  Believe it or not, the recent HD3850 is also available in AGP and would certainly play all the modern games very well - but it costs > $200.  Don't forget the extra 1GB of RAM ($40-50) as not having enough creates the biggest single performance penalty when gaming.  These upgrades together should make all the modern games playable if not fluid.
 
The other option is much more expensive and makes your games run only somewhat faster.  Your motherboard is socket 754, which is incompatible with modern high performance CPUs, so you'll need a new CPU, m/b, 2GB of DDR2, and a PCI-e video card.  That's almost a new system; take notice that you can't do the first upgrade and then migrate to this one, as 2GB of DDR won't fit onto a modern DDR2 board, and an AGP video card won't fit the newer PCI-e slots.

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MarkG wrote :

Are you sure? I tried COD2 on my 9500 Pro and it was a slideshow in DX9 mode (OK in DX7 though). The 9600 is generally less powerful than the 9500 Pro and I have a hard time believing that COD4 is less GPU-hungry.


 
They are both bad cards. They have a 128bit memory bus which makes a huge difference in games. He can just build a whole new PC or just up the GPU/CPU and Memory.
 
For fast load times a lot will be based on your HDD setup. If you are willing to do it a RAID0 SATAII will do wounders for you. I have 2 500GB in RAID0 each running SATAII and load times are great.
 
I would say build a new one but it depends on your budget. If you do build a new one how much would you want to spend?

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Buy a new motherboard, 2GB ram, C2D E8400, 8800GT or 9600GT, then have fun.

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jimmysmitty wrote :

They are both bad cards. They have a 128bit memory bus which makes a huge difference in games. He can just build a whole new PC or just up the GPU/CPU and Memory.
 
For fast load times a lot will be based on your HDD setup. If you are willing to do it a RAID0 SATAII will do wounders for you. I have 2 500GB in RAID0 each running SATAII and load times are great.
 
I would say build a new one but it depends on your budget. If you do build a new one how much would you want to spend?


 
Sorry about not telling you my budget guys, I can spend 2,500$- 3,000$ and that is my limit.  So now maybe you can dertermin if I need a new computer or upgrades (I don't know how to build a computer but my neighbor does, maybe i could ask him) Any replys would do

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Wow, dude, $1000 or $1,500 is really all you need.

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^Agreed.

 

My recommendations:

 

P35-DS3x/P5K-x or an X38 based motherboard from Gigabyte or ASUS (ie. DQ6) If you want SLI you would need a nVidia chipset. You can do CrossFire with X38.
320GB+ 7200.11 HDD
E8xxx/Q6600
Corsair 520HX/ or other high quality PSU
8800GT/S/X at least 512MB (one card assuming no SLI)
2+GB DDR2 800 RAM
XP/Vista x64 (MSFT is cutting prices for current Vista DVDs, to make room for DVDs with Vista+SP1) Link to price cut
Any good DVD burner
Any case you like (make sure it is a good case with stable construction/design/airflow) ie. Antec Armor
A good CPU cooler (ie Tuniq Tower 120)

 

This would set back about $1200

  



Message edited by Shadow7037 93 on 03-03-2008 at 02:15:42 AM

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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz - $239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115037
 
GPU: EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB - $319.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130312
 
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139004
 
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) - $65.49
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148076
 
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L - $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128059
 
CASE: COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 - $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119077
 
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB - $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148262
 
DVD: LITE-ON Black SATA DVD Burner with LightScribe - $32.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106072
 
Total:$968.42
 
 
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My Advice is that save the extra 1500$ and buy a new PC when the new 10xxx GPU's and Nehalem comes out that will pwn this thing in it's sleep

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Forgot the HS/F....
 
Thermalright Ultima 90 - $45.95
http://jab-tech.com/Thermalright-U [...] -3852.html
 
Scythe S-Flex Fan - SFF21F - $13.95
http://jab-tech.com/Scythe-S-Flex- [...] -3257.html
 
Total:$59.90
 
$968.42 + $59.90 = $1028.32

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^Good parts. I would change the PSU to 520HX and the motherboard to P35-DS3R and the HDD to a 7200.11 which are much quieter and only about 1-2ms slower than a Raptor but with more space and better $/performance.  
 
See :
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Product [...] 665&Page=2  
for a comparison between X38-DQ6, DS3L,DS3R,DS3P, and DS4.
 
The main differences are the # of SATA ports, RAID, # of PCIe x16,etc.


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ok guys i know some stuff about computer parts but I can't understand this, can you put it in English please?

3.8 ghz at 1.2v? More likely..
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They're talking about computer part names.


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3.8ghz Pentium D loading at 43C? What?
Why so SeRiOuS?
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