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Hello Everyone,
A friend of mine told me he had gotten a dx10 1950 ATI driver, I have a 1900GT ATI card is it possbile to get a Dx 10 driver for that card somewere?
Thanks for any information :)

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Well your friend definitely doesn't have a x1950 capable of DX10, the X1k series are all DX9.0c cards. DX10 compatibly is dependent on two things: 1. The card you have is DX10 capable 8xxx series Nvidia or HD series ATI. 2. You must be using Windows Vista, XP is incapable of using DX10.

Hopefully that helps clear that up for you.

Reply to IndigoMoss

So there is no way to run Dx10 on a 1900GT? becuse I have `VISTA and it only uses dx10. is VISTA compatible with dx9.0c cards?

The thing is I get graphic errors running high end graphic games like Crysis and Fury, thought perhaps this was the problem

Reply to BjornHjorth

Vista uses DX9L which is an updated version of DX9 that runs only in Vista. What type of graphical errors are you getting? Strange lines and stuff? It sounds like you might be getting artifacting.

Reply to IndigoMoss

Yea extreme tearing in the graphics, for example that the mesh of the characters get draged out like a line to the right/left etc.

And the graphic card gets reseted, when i tab out i can see a litle error sign telling me that the graphics card has been restarted. this only happends after a while i have played 10min +

Reply to BjornHjorth

Well it can be one of two issues then. It could be that your card is overheating or it could be that it's going bad. You can use ATI Tool to check the temperature of your GPU. I'd say if it's above 80c at idle, than it definitely has a heat issue. If it's around 60c, it could be that your card is just bad.

Make sure you have the latest drivers installed, not that I've ever seen drivers cause such a problem, it's still always good to have them.

When did the problem start happening?

Reply to IndigoMoss

BjornHjorth wrote :

Yea extreme tearing in the graphics, for example that the mesh of the characters get draged out like a line to the right/left etc.

And the graphic card gets reseted, when i tab out i can see a litle error sign telling me that the graphics card has been restarted. this only happends after a while i have played 10min +



I remember having these sort of issues with a few games with a nvidia 6600GT, turned out to be a driver problem in a couple of revisions of the drivers, setting back to the version that came on disk fixed it in that case....

Reply to dtq

Well its started.. or should I say noticed when I ran certain games. I can for example play CS source with out a problem. But when I ran Crysis is when I started to notice it.

I am downloading AMD over drive to check for heat problem and I am gonna down load ATI tool and check the graphic heat.
will be posting shortly on my advances ^^

Reply to BjornHjorth

ee running ATITool0.27 and clicked Find MAX core. and after a while of testing it whent up to 85 deegrees and climbing, I turned off. Is this safe? ><

Reply to BjornHjorth

It's a little high and it definitely won't hold up very well when playing something like Crysis. I'd try to keep it in the 75c range on load and try to get it in the 50c-60c idle. It definitely sounds like a heat issue, make sure that you have some good airflow going under the card. Maybe a PCI slot cooler might be in order. Plus Crysis makes GPU's go into the fetal position, while sucking their thumbs and hoping it will all be over.


Message edited by IndigoMoss on 02-18-2008 at 10:56:50 PM
Reply to IndigoMoss

Just ran fury and the temprature whent up to 85++ when playing. and then it started to make artifacts on the screen.

Turned down the power on the graphics card and then the temptrature whent down to 75 and then the game was alitle more stable but still some artifacts on the screen.

But i took a look on the web and I am gonna get a graphics cooler and a PCI cooler. Is that what I should? :P

Reply to BjornHjorth

Well are you still running it overclocked? Put it at stock settings if you are. Also, make sure to install the latest drivers. If it's still giving you problems after that, it sounds like a temperature problem and/or bad card. Make sure there's good airflow in the case too. I'd try to put a fan by it and see if it helps any to determine if it's a temp problem.

The x19xx series are notoriously hot, but are a great series none the less.

Reply to IndigoMoss

Your friend either lied, or is really dumb.

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skittle wrote :

Your friend either lied, or is really dumb.


haha i agree how funny

Reply to gwolfman

Thanks IndigoMoss will post back later when I have gotten the fans.

Reply to BjornHjorth

hmm got me Zalman VGA cooler, installed it and loaded the computer.
Loaded ATITool and it said 50 degrees.. then when I clicked show 3D view it sky rockets to 90 degrees and by then I turned of the computer.

Toke it away to make sure everything was aOK and it was. the fan is running at 2400rpm+ stable so I can understand why it should go so hot.

Any other good programs I can check my Graphic card heat just to check if the ATITool has gone bonkers

Reply to BjornHjorth

I mean I CANT understand why it should go so hot.
PS: couldetn edit my post :/

Reply to BjornHjorth

When was the last time you cleaned the graphics card?

Go buy a can of compressed air and read the directions on the side of the can.
Shut down your system and unplug it.
Open the case and remove the graphics card.
Hold the cooling fan in place and spray air up the cooling fins, towards the cooling fan (following the directions on the can of air).
Stop spraying, rotate the fan a few degrees and repeat the last step until all fan blades have been air cleaned.
Re-install the card, close the case, plug it in and power it up.
Check ATITool again to check temps.

Did this help?

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Reply to Wolfshadw

I just bought the Zalman so its pretty cleaned ^^

I am more and more leaning on my GC is totaly ***** up :(

Reply to BjornHjorth

Sorry. Missed the part about you getting the Zalman VGA cooler. :sleep:

-Wolf sends

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Reply to Wolfshadw

plinkered alitle more and now I freeze my feet of if i keep em close to the computer. but now the graphics core is 65+ degrees when i start it up and it still goes high wire when I trie to run anything graphic related.

Reply to BjornHjorth

Last thing I post for today :P
Re-installed the original fan and now it is back to normal ( as it was before that is)

Faulty Zalman fan?

Reply to BjornHjorth

hehe hi again. after alitle thinking about fysics i realised that... well copper cant be faulty so I reinstalled it again and now it is 35 degrees idle and when i run the test it goes to 45 - 49 degrees.

Still dont know what was the issue, only diffrent thing is that I used a diffrent thermal pasta, could that be it??

Reply to BjornHjorth

I had a 1900 XTX and started getting artifacts, along with the card slowing to a crawl on newer games. Turned out the memory had fried. I got a 8800 GTS 640 (last summer), and the artifacting problems were cured.

As for your friend and DX10. I suppose it would be possible to download and install DX10 drivers, but the card still wouldn't play DX10. he could well have gotten the drivers, played a bit on his computer and then thought, "Cool, I have DX10!", when in reality he is still just getting DX9.c.

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Reply to Sailer

BjornHjorth wrote :

hehe hi again. after alitle thinking about fysics i realised that... well copper cant be faulty so I reinstalled it again and now it is 35 degrees idle and when i run the test it goes to 45 - 49 degrees.

Still dont know what was the issue, only diffrent thing is that I used a diffrent thermal pasta, could that be it??




ummmm yeahh thermal PASTA :D does matter ..... After reading all this Im thinking maybe is it possible you forgot the thermal PASTA the first time around?

Reply to cyph0r

Sailer wrote :

I had a 1900 XTX and started getting artifacts, along with the card slowing to a crawl on newer games. Turned out the memory had fried. I got a 8800 GTS 640 (last summer), and the artifacting problems were cured.

As for your friend and DX10. I suppose it would be possible to download and install DX10 drivers, but the card still wouldn't play DX10. he could well have gotten the drivers, played a bit on his computer and then thought, "Cool, I have DX10!", when in reality he is still just getting DX9.c.



If the memory on your card was fried your card would not even display the post and bootup.

But who would even attempt to make DX 10 drivers for a 1900 XTX???? I mean if you can make Ati drivers I think you’re going to be smart enough to know a 1900XTX CANT do DX10 ... and really... I don’t see ati twiddling their thumbs and going I know what we can do today! LETS MAKE A DX10 Driver for the 1900XTX!! Just in case we go back and redux the card!

Sounds like this friend is either lying his ass off tying to look all cool look at me I can do it or really uneducated in the subject...

What is more likely to be happening here is that your friend is in vista and is looking in DXDIAG and seeing DirectX Version: DirectX 10 and in their head they are thinking... Oh look its says DX 10! oh hidey ho look at me Piff those silly :lol: dummys :lol: who say 1900xtx cant do DX10.. I am 1337

Reply to cyph0r

cyph0r wrote :

If the memory on your card was fried your card would not even display the post and bootup.

But who would even attempt to make DX 10 drivers for a 1900 XTX????



I sent the card to Sapphire for warrenty repair. Their explaination was that the memory was bad, that is, when it got hot it quit working and the computer locked up. Only a hard reboot would get it going again. Really bad part was that this was one of the expensive water cooled Toxic cards, and while they guarenteed the card itself, they did not guarentee the pump or damage caused by a faulty pump. Since the pump had failed, they wouldn't repair it or the card. So perhaps fried is the wrong term, but it was defective for sure.

I think the OP's "friend" is probably uneducated. He either downloded DX10 Drivers, or possibly just the latest CCC driver package which is for DX10 capable cards and though his card accepts the latest driver package, it is just running DX9. Like you wrote, he looks in the DXDIAG or perhaps the CCC and sees DX10 so thinks he has it.

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Reply to Sailer

hehe na i dident forget the pasta, just that I did something wrong and would really like to figure out what.

About my friend, yea I guess that Is what he thought, well well was worth asking :D

Reply to BjornHjorth

Be glad you cant run dx10, If you could it would just slow your PC down by 50% and still look virtually identical to dx9.


At least thats what it does to my 3870.

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