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February 21, 2008 8:25:03 PM

Should i buy another XFX GeForce 8800GTS Fatal1ty 320MB and SLI or Buy an ATI HD 3870x2?




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February 21, 2008 8:27:51 PM

Specs please.

My gut says 3870x2 right off the bat though. :p 
February 21, 2008 8:43:21 PM

rgeist554 said:
Specs please.


Asus P5N32-E SLI
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 go (@2.88)
1x XFX GeForce 8800GTS Fatal1ty 320MB
4GB OCZ Reaper memory (OCZ2RPX800EB2G)
Enermax Liberty 620W PSU
1x Seagate 500GB (ST350063 0AS)
2x Seagate 320GB Raid 0 (ST3320620AS)
1x DVD Burner
Thermaltake Armor Case (25cm side fan)
Vista x64
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a c 130 U Graphics card
February 21, 2008 8:51:41 PM


We need to know monitor size and resolution as well please. :) 
Mactronix
February 21, 2008 9:10:18 PM

8800GTS 320MB or 640MB cards are nice, but 8800GT 512MB is really where the money is at. But like these guys are saying, if you don't have the monitor to display the resolution you want, your high performance video card will waste its power on lower resolutions.
February 21, 2008 9:15:28 PM

19" ViewSonic VX922 2ms and i game @ 1280x1024.

I will be getting a 22" Samsung in a few week thou.

3Dmark06 score is 12355

SM2.0 5079
HDR/SM3.0 5197
CPU 4063
a b U Graphics card
February 21, 2008 9:46:36 PM

How much is that fatality? Probably too expensive and you will be limited by the 320MB of VRAM running them in SLI. If it were me, I'd sell that card, grab the HD3870x2 or Dual 9600GT or Dual 8800GT. I looked into 320MB 8800GTS SLI scaling back when I looked into buying a second, but didn't like how it scaled and feared the 320MB for 16x10 4xaa gaming.
February 22, 2008 6:55:42 AM

pauldh said:
How much is that fatality?........I looked into 320MB 8800GTS SLI scaling back when I looked into buying a second, but didn't like how it scaled and feared the 320MB for 16x10 4xaa gaming.


yeah at just over £200 ex delivery another fatality is not cheap. The really sad thing is that this card is so fast, its a really good card but like you the SLI scaling is what is concerning me as well.


Buying 2x8800GT's with 650 clocks is also expensive. As this fatality is so fast just buying one 8800GT is not going to give me huge performance gains unless i start gaming at higher resolutions.

At this point the HD3870x2 looks like a good choice, the price is good and the performance is very nice as well. AA is the only thing that concerns me about the HD3870x2 card.
February 22, 2008 7:38:50 AM

Must be expensive where you are. In US 2 8800GT SC (650) = $520 and a 3870X2 = $450
2 8800GT stock clocks can be had for $400 here
February 22, 2008 8:51:49 AM

2x 8800GT ftw but id prefer a 3870x2 personally.
February 22, 2008 10:06:04 AM

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Must be expensive where you are. 2 8800GT stock clocks can be had for $400 here


Damn right! Cheapest 8800GT 512 here in the U.K is about £150, so that makes it just under $600 for two.
a c 271 U Graphics card
February 22, 2008 4:58:12 PM

crusoe74 your 320 is fast enough mate, the performance difference between my two GT's and my friends single 320 GTS is not so great that it's worth forking out the cash, with the 9 series just about with us you might well be better to give it a couple of weeks whilst checking Scans & Yoyotech daily.
a c 147 U Graphics card
February 22, 2008 5:02:30 PM

Mousemonkey said:
crusoe74 your 320 is fast enough mate, the performance difference between my two GT's and my friends single 320 GTS is not so great that it's worth forking out the cash, with the 9 series just about with us you might well be better to give it a couple of weeks whilst checking Scans & Yoyotech daily.

I concur with George Burns Monkey... Your GTS 320 on a 19" or 22" for that matter is good enough. You won't notice much improvment going SLI, plus you will need a bigger PSU for either the SLI or 3870X2 anyways. Stick with what you have and wait for the next 9 series cards to come out.

What is your reason for wanting more performance anyways? having issues with a particular game? or just want a bigger set of marbles to play with?
February 22, 2008 5:10:59 PM

I have to concur with the last few posters...at those resolutions I don't think you should get a 3870X2 or an SLI solution. Wait a few months for some higher-end 9X00 stuff to come out, and go with one of those.
a c 271 U Graphics card
February 22, 2008 5:14:20 PM

jay2tall said:
I concur with George Burns Monkey... Your GTS 320 on a 19" or 22" for that matter is good enough. You won't notice much improvment going SLI, plus you will need a bigger PSU for either the SLI or 3870X2 anyways. Stick with what you have and wait for the next 9 series cards to come out.

What is your reason for wanting more performance anyways? having issues with a particular game? or just want a bigger set of marbles to play with?

:lol:  Just for the record my friend runs a 20.1" @ 1680 x 1050 and in Crysis at the same settings as myself gets slightly higher fps on the outdoor bits but slightly lower fps on the indoor bits, weird but true :??:  such is the shader power of that card.
February 22, 2008 8:13:41 PM

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crusoe74 your 320 is fast enough mate, the performance difference between my two GT's and my friends single 320 GTS is not so great that it's worth forking out the cash, with the 9 series just about with us you might well be better to give it a couple of weeks whilst checking Scans & Yoyotech daily.


Great advice, but I think this is for the OP; JonnyRock

I've got a single 8800GTS 512 which I'm very happy with.
a c 271 U Graphics card
February 22, 2008 8:18:45 PM

[:mousemonkey:4] Sorry crusoe74 you're quite right, my bad.
a b U Graphics card
February 22, 2008 9:37:50 PM

I had a 320MB 8800GTS and upgraded to SLi 8800GT. AT 1680x1050, the difference was HUGE to say the least. Oblivion and Crysis you can't compare them. Now his is a Fatality, which is quite a bit faster than a plain 320MB GTS like I had. But for 16x10 gaming the HD3870x2 or dual 9600GT/8800GT, would be quite a bit better than his card. I still don't like the idea of blowing big bucks on a second 320MB fatality though.
February 22, 2008 9:46:40 PM

I always wondered why firingsquad didn't add in the 640MB 8800GTS.

The Fatality is an amazing card though, with peopl OCing past 700MHz, but it really doesn't seem worthy to buy another one. Sell it on Ebay for a 8800GTS 512MB.
February 22, 2008 10:17:18 PM

For your resolution going sli is just crazy, thats like what the 3rd setting on most peoples comps, and most people running sli are running the max resolutions they can on there monitor, you would be better off sticking with 1 card, just upgrade it.
a c 147 U Graphics card
February 23, 2008 3:05:26 AM

I still say wait. The 9XXX GTX card will most likely run with an SLI setup anyways and that's with a single card. Just wait for it dude, don't pull the trigger to early. I went from an x1900XTX to an 8000GTS 512 and was very happy. Everyone wanted me to get the GTS 320 or 640 or even a GTX which would require me to get a new PSU and the card was $550 at the time. Im much happier with my decision.

I concur that a single card setup is better than 2 in SLI. You won't have to worry about certain games not responding well to SLI. Be happy now and wait for the new cards, it won't be long.
February 24, 2008 12:49:54 PM

jay2tall said:
What is your reason for wanting more performance anyways? having issues with a particular game? or just want a bigger set of marbles to play with?



after reading all your comments and looking a lot more reviews, i have decided to wait until the 9xxxx cards are released. Not the 9600gt thou. Although a nice card its a runt compared to what is coming i think. Nice for the price i guess. :p 

The reason i want more power EverQuest 2 of course. :bounce:  :D 

I want max detail damn it :lol:  after reading a lot more about the game it seem that it is more cpu bound than gpu bound. :cry: 

Also Sony seem to be very friendly with nvidia so i am not sure how the ATI cards will run the game maxed out.
February 24, 2008 4:40:59 PM

I really havent heard any ati complaints in eq2, and i used to play it until october of last year, yeah i hear ya on the graphics side, that game just has some friggin insane video options. You would see the diffrence with the 8800 gtx, or gts(g92) on that game for sure but waiting isnt a horrible idea, since its only another 2 weeks now.
a c 147 U Graphics card
February 25, 2008 1:15:41 PM

JonnyRock said:
after reading all your comments and looking a lot more reviews, i have decided to wait until the 9xxxx cards are released. Not the 9600gt thou. Although a nice card its a runt compared to what is coming i think. Nice for the price i guess. :p 


Good call. I hate seeing people get all the advice in the world from everyone and still go the direction they were initially in. Why bother with the question. I think you will be much happier in the end if you wait and get the latest and greatest. It will last you longer then the older tech. Im sure you can sell off your current card on eBay or to a buddy looking for a decent card.
February 25, 2008 1:48:23 PM

:D  thanks for all the posts.

What i have decided to do is buy a new PSU and a VGA cooler to see if i can clock the card over 710.

New Toys:

Akasa AK-P100FG 1000W PowerMax PSU
Thermalright HR-03-PLUS 92mm Quiet Fan
Arctic Silver 5


This should keep me going, and with the new PSU i will be ready for the new Graphics Cards. :sol: 
a b U Graphics card
February 25, 2008 2:04:47 PM

^ Did you need any of those things? Stability issues? Seems like alot of money to try an take an already high clocked card and get a little more from it.
February 25, 2008 2:42:34 PM

the card is pushing 65 - 72C which is to hot for me. IF i can get it to around 50c under load i will be happy.

February 25, 2008 2:43:32 PM

also the PSU is for future SLIing :sol: 
a c 147 U Graphics card
February 25, 2008 3:16:17 PM

JonnyRock said:
the card is pushing 65 - 72C which is to hot for me. IF i can get it to around 50c under load i will be happy.


Oh that cooler with drop your temps like mad. My x1900xtx droped 20C on idle and load. Bad thing is it raises your case temps so make sure you have good cooling. When I upgraded from my old card my Mobo temp dropped 5C just because the hot air was blowing out of the case instead is staying inside.

Great choice in cooler though, you will be very happy. Just make sure you get a nice fan for it. the Scythe fans are just awesome. i have a 120mm zippie tied to my old one. Had a 80mm before that. there wasnt much choice in the 92mm size range to use the stock clips. Very versitile cooler though.
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