I'm dumb, Please help

[A_NAKED_PENGUIN]

I've been trying to learn to OC and thought I understood it but something isn't working right.

I have the Following:
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 timing of 2-3-3-6 and 2.75V
And an E6300 at 1.86 (stock)

Now, I try to OC and if I even get to 2.0GHZ the system crashes. As far as I understand the RAM should be able to handle up to 400mhz FSB right? I try to inch my way up there and make it about half way. What the hell am I doing wrong?

note: I have not edited any ram settings in the BIOS either, I just moved the FSB and kept the RAM thing on AUTO.

 

[iluvgillgill]

no your ram can only handle 200FSB which equal to DDR400.

but you should manualy edit the timing to 3-4-4-8 and try overclock further.CAS2 is only related to DDR333 in ordinary DDR ram.

sorry that you came all the way from graphics card section to here good luck.

 

[Ancient_1]

As far as I know the 965 boards are DDR2 only, so I would guess you have different memory in your system than what you listed. Being on auto it may be running your mem faster than a 1:1 ratio and could be your problem. Increasing the voltage to your mem might be all you need.

You can DL Cpu-z and see what information it gives you on what what speed it is running at.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

 

[dallasjoh]

I've been trying to learn to OC and thought I understood it but something isn't working right.

I have the Following:
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 timing of 2-3-3-6 and 2.75V
And an E6300 at 1.86 (stock)

Now, I try to OC and if I even get to 2.0GHZ the system crashes. As far as I understand the RAM should be able to handle up to 400mhz FSB right? I try to inch my way up there and make it about half way. What the hell am I doing wrong?

note: I have not edited any ram settings in the BIOS either, I just moved the FSB and kept the RAM thing on AUTO.

Gigabyte's website list that motherboard as DDR2-800 240 pin memory. If the memory you have listed is correct then you have the wrong memory in the board. If that's the case, then no amount of adjustments will make it run right.
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2314

 

[kyeana]

you can't put ddr memory into a ddr2 slot, the pins are different. He probably just forgot to put the 2 after ddr

 

[dallasjoh]

you can't put ddr memory into a ddr2 slot, the pins are different. He probably just forgot to put the 2 after ddr

He also put 184 pin. Then he has put down the entire memory info wrong. Because what he wrote down is the DDR-400 PC-3200 memory found at the following link.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145575&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory+(Desktop+Memory)-_-Corsair+(XMS+Series)-_-20145575

@A_NAKED_PENGUIN ,
You need to give us the correct information if you want us to help.

 

[hairycat101]

you can't put ddr memory into a ddr2 slot, the pins are different. He probably just forgot to put the 2 after ddr

His post says 184 pin. What I want is a pic of how he got 184 pin DDR into a 240 pin DDR2 slot!

 

[dallasjoh]

@ hairycat101
2nd that on the pic.

 

[A_NAKED_PENGUIN]

Ah crap, wrong order history.

OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

Thats what I got Everything else was right

 

[hairycat101]

Over clocks are not guaranteed. Check CPU-Z to see what your ram is running at stock. Another item to consider is voltage on the ram. What voltage is it supposed to be running? What have you got it at?

Darn it on the pic, though. Would have loved to see how that DDR ram fit into the DDR2 slot.

 

[iluvgillgill]

lower the ram multiplier to 1:1 in BIOS first and change all ram setting to 5-5-5-18 and set it to 2V.

then start your OC from there penguin!

 

[A_NAKED_PENGUIN]

CPU-z gives me

MEMORY

DRAM freq - 266.7mhz
FSBRAM 1:1
CAS# Latency (CL) 4.0 Clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 10 clocks

Command Rate 1T



CPU

Core Speed 1600.1 Mhz
Multiplier x 6.0
Bus Speed 266.7Mhz
Rated FSB 1066.7 Mhz


Anything else?

 

[iluvgillgill]

change those timings i told you and also forgot to tell you to change the command rate to 2T it will greatly improve OC ability.do a screenshot of CPU-Z and showing both 1st tab and memory tab as well.

 

[A_NAKED_PENGUIN]

AGH! I get 9 different options of timing things I have:

CAS Latency time
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay
DRAM RAS# Precharge
Precharge Dealy (not a typo) (tRAS)
ACT to ACT Delay
Rank Write to READ Delay
Write to Precharge Delay
Refresh to ACT delay
Read to Precharge Delay

I assume I change the first 4 things to what you specify but I cant see a memory voltage anywhere. I see a DIMM Overvoltage control. which allows me to increase in small voltage increments. I just dont want to do something stupid and fry it.

I appreciate the patience.

 

[iluvgillgill]

well if you have listen to me set the multiplier to 1:1 then you should have just stock voltage for ram and timing of 5-5-5-18 2T(command rate)

can you do those screenshot for me?its really difficult for me to track and give advice on what to do next.sorry i guess you will have to from the feedback im getting from you.

 

[hairycat101]

go slow on the voltage for the dimms. Dont jump too much. Too much juice will hurt the OC as much as too little. Yes as far as the timings go. the first four are ususally the ones iluvgillgill is referencing.

 

[A_NAKED_PENGUIN]

 

[iluvgillgill]

turn off C1E,Speedstep,EnhanceState in BIOS and change the 1st 4 timings in BIOS to 5-5-5-18 and +0.2V on the ram.and MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE COMMAND RATE FROM 1T TO 2T.

then grab Coretemp if you havent already got that.and see the VID value from Coretemp and change your Vcore in BIOS to your VID value.

after you done all that start upping the FSB.until you reach unstability.

anyone not agreeing with that?maybe you can do a better job of guiding him

 

[A_NAKED_PENGUIN]

I don't see a command rate in the bios..... any other names it could be under?

 

[iluvgillgill]

turn EIST,no-exec memory function off as well.

 

[iluvgillgill]

oh!did you press CTRL+F1 at the main BIOS menu?maybe its hidden from you.

edit:sorry just remember if you dont press CTRL+F1 you dont see memeory timing. anyway i mean try it out yourself to see what other "unknown" timing value it give you one of them must have a value "1(T)" and "2(T)".have you lower the vcore to the "normal voltage" display in the BIOS?

 

[iluvgillgill]

i assume your BIOS looks like this

 

[A_NAKED_PENGUIN]

yea there's just not anythting that says command rate. I have

CAS Latency time 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS) 18

those are what i changed them to as told

now after that I have
ACT to ACT Delay AUTO
Rank Write to Precharge Delay AUTO
Refresh to ACT Delay 0
Read to Precharge Delay AUTO
Memeory Performance Enhance NORMAL
DIMM OverVoltage Control +0.2V (changed to this)
PCI-E OverVoltage Control NORMAL
FSB OverVoltage Control NORMAL
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control NORMAL
CPU Voltage Control NORMAL
NORMAL CPU Vcore 1.32500V
Robust Graphics Booster AUTO

 

[A_NAKED_PENGUIN]

LOL yea exactly

 

[iluvgillgill]

well if there isnt anything you can do about the command rate i would say just live with it and start OCing. what cooler are you using to cool the processor? make sure in coretemp under prime95 small ffts it doesnt exceed 70C if it does stop it and either increase cooling or reduce vcore(very unlikely at this stage)

good luck.