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oo7b0nds   02-23-2008 at 07:04:50 AM

First I'd like to say sorry if this is comparing apples to oranges. So I'm doing a new rig for my brother, and I was about to go with the 8800 GTS 512MB (G92) till I heard about the soon to be released 9800's. From what I've heard the 9800 GX2 is supposed to be like two 8800GTS on one PCB?? Is this correct? And with the rumored price of $450-500, should I wait for 9800?

Also does anyone know anything about the 9800 GTX? I know everything is just speculation at this point, until they are released, but would the GX2 beat out the GTX?

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annisman   02-23-2008 at 07:11:53 AM
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That is the exact question I am asking in the thread I just put up, anybody know which one will be better ? Also, what kind of P.S. is needed for Quad SLI. Thanks

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oo7b0nds   02-23-2008 at 08:24:11 AM
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Yeah just saw your thread right after I posted.

I would imagine you would need 1-1.2 kilowatt PSU for a quad SLI like that. But I don't know how someone could justify doing that, I don't care how rich you are haha.

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systemlord   02-23-2008 at 08:58:36 AM
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Hard questions, but this is sure two G92 based chips would have the same performance as two 8800GTS in SLI at the least. Heres some eye candie for you.

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BLACKSCI   02-23-2008 at 09:47:05 AM
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Indeed, until we see the card actually release, we wont know exactly what its capable of, and while supposedly the few benchies on the web based on the 9800 look promising, ive also seen descrepencies that others have pointed out too, most agree there fake. Wait until a reputable review has been written on them before you take anyones word on it would be my advice, but if the 9800 wasnt that great from the 8800 GTS, people are going to be SUPER pissed.

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spotless   02-23-2008 at 09:49:12 AM
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does it support dx 10.1?

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BLACKSCI   02-23-2008 at 09:54:14 AM
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Yes all cards 8800 and up support directx 10, now if you can get it to run well, or even have support for it is another question. I hear crysis folks still have 6 months before they see directx 10, not positive about that though, since i dont play.

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yipsl   02-23-2008 at 11:52:40 AM
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oo7b0nds wrote :

First I'd like to say sorry if this is comparing apples to oranges. So I'm doing a new rig for my brother, and I was about to go with the 8800 GTS 512MB (G92) till I heard about the soon to be released 9800's. From what I've heard the 9800 GX2 is supposed to be like two 8800GTS on one PCB?? Is this correct? And with the rumored price of $450-500, should I wait for 9800?

Also does anyone know anything about the 9800 GTX? I know everything is just speculation at this point, until they are released, but would the GX2 beat out the GTX?



The 9800gx2 is two GPU's on one card, but it's not on one PCB. Two PCB's are together such that it uses one PCIe slot for the connector. It's designed like the older 7950gx2.

I was disappointed to hear it wasn't a two GPU on one PCB card like ATI's 3870x2. That probably only makes a difference in size, not in actual drivers or SLI. Make sure your case is large enough. We'll have to wait and see how it compares to a 9800gtx in benchmarks.

The only thing I'm sure about is that those two cards will leapfrog ATI until the 4870 and 4870x2 arrive in June (according to Nordic Hardware). ATI and Nvidia leapfrogging each other is a great sport to watch, but I've always preferred ATI image quality. My new factory overclocked 3870x2 is great!

spotless wrote :

does it support dx 10.1?



I don't know about that. They might only be DX10. I'm not sure when any actual DX10.1 patches or games will arrive. I'll get to play my first DX10 game Saturday with LOTR online, which I installed and updated Friday night. I've had Vista since it came out in 2007, but all the role playing games I've bought were DX9.0c, as was the old 7600gs. I moved my cpu to a new ATI board just so I could go 3870x2.


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Hatman   02-23-2008 at 01:31:11 PM
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9800GTX is just a 8800GTS 512 with tri-sli and slightly higher clocks, dont get your hopes up.


Although SLI with this 9 series atm is bringing up very good results.. so taht may carry over to GTX, who knows.

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oo7b0nds   02-23-2008 at 08:30:49 PM
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Looks like we'll just have to wait and see.

Personally I am excited. 9800GX2 = supposed 30% better over the ULTRA, for around $450? Who can't get excited about that? My only concern would be heat.

An Antec Nine Hundred case would fit it, if its about the same size as the 8800 GTX right?

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BLACKSCI   02-23-2008 at 08:47:16 PM
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Yes the Antec900 will fit it, this case has tons of room.

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pchoi04   02-23-2008 at 08:59:27 PM
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Hatman wrote :

9800GTX is just a 8800GTS 512 with tri-sli and slightly higher clocks, dont get your hopes up.


Although SLI with this 9 series atm is bringing up very good results.. so taht may carry over to GTX, who knows.



Thank you Hatman for taking the time to go into the future to let everyone know that. Now we can all rest easy. ;)

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Hatman   02-23-2008 at 09:34:34 PM
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pchoi04 wrote :

Thank you Hatman for taking the time to go into the future to let everyone know that. Now we can all rest easy. ;)

 


hahaha what a funny post...

 

Or, instead of inventing a time machine to find out for youreself, actually LOOK around on the web instead of waiting for soemone to come and answer the questions for you :)

 

9800GT = 8800GT with Tri-Sli
9800GTX = 8800GTS 512 with Tri-Sli
9800GX2 = 2x.. 8800GTS 512

 


All the info is there, just have a look.

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annisman   02-23-2008 at 09:59:40 PM
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Hatman wrote :

hahaha what a funny post...

Or, instead of inventing a time machine to find out for youreself, actually LOOK around on the web instead of waiting for soemone to come and answer the questions for you :)

9800GT = 8800GT with Tri-Sli
9800GTX = 8800GTS 512 with Tri-Sli
9800GX2 = 2x.. 8800GTS 512


All the info is there, just have a look.




THIS is where I go on the web to have a LOOK :lol:

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oo7b0nds   02-23-2008 at 10:02:48 PM
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annisman wrote :

THIS is where I go on the web to have a LOOK :lol:

:lol: Very true.

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Killah_Kal88   02-24-2008 at 11:19:49 PM
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Im just wondering is it really worth having SLI? I mean to ask how great is the performance between having one card vs SLI / Tri-SLI? Just having one card is already power consuming...how much power would you need for more than one card? 0_O

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blackhawk1928   08-21-2008 at 03:04:16 AM
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Um you would need a lot, I know that 1 9800gx2 has a maximum of 200watts (197watts to be precise), two of those is around 400watts, plus you need power to support all other hardware and a power for an SLI motherboard!

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L1qu1d   08-21-2008 at 03:28:10 AM
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the GX2 is known to double the 8800 ultra in alot of the popular games. And from personal experience with Quad sli, it really scales like a dream, except in HL2, which I get about the same frames:S.

Either way you can find Evga GX2s for around 250$ now:D so they seem to be the best buy!

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