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680i < 780i < 780i Ultra or X38 < X48 = Massive Headache

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I need a bit of help as I’m stuck in the perpetual decision-making process. I’ve spent the past few days reading, as you know, the tremendous amount of threads that are available regarding the latest technology (AnandTech, HardOCP, and of course, TomsHardware). Conflicting reports abound. It’s good. It’s bad. You know the drill. As many of us usually are, I’m in a bit of a purchasing dilemma, and your input would be greatly appreciated. Here’s what I’m considering:
680i, or do I spend the money for the 780i (eVGA or XFX)? If I spend the money for the 780i, should I just spend a bit more for the 780i Ultra? Problems abound with the 680i and 780i, is that the case now? Should I skip the latest technology and purchase the P35 (ABIT)? Should I drop kill the whole SLI think and head over to the Intel side of things. I don’t know much about the CrossFire setup, but it would take a bit of convincing to utilize it as I’ve steered away from ATI. Should I stick to one GPU if I purchase an Intel Chipset when I’ve grown accustomed to SLI over the past 2 years? And if I can’t make up my mind, I can always drop down to the AMD/ASUS combination I’ve grown accustomed to. I’m really trying my best to stick to Intel’s Q6600 with G0 stepping. Also, I’ve been known to do a little mild to wild overclocking. With this setup, a little overclocking is in order. Stability becomes a concern. I would like to utilize the 64bit version of Vista as well, so I’d like to purchase 8 gigs worth of memory as well. This is what happens when you don’t pay attention. I’m looking at spending up to $300.00 for the motherboard. Thank again for your assistance! Have a wonderful weekend!

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P35 is a great chipset, I'd take P35 and a single 8800GTX or 9800GX2 over any of the nForce chipsets, since P35 has more CPU support then 680i and is a hell of a lot cheaper then 780i/790i. If you want SLI I'd get something based on the 750i SLI chipset which allows for x16/x8 SLI at PCI-E 2.0 speeds. The higher end chipsets don't add much of actual use over the mid-range parts these days.

Reply to Gravemind123

Thank you for pointing me in a direction with regard to the Intel chipset (P35) Gravemind123. What Gigabyte board would you suggest as I want to compare it to the ABIT IP35 Pro. I think my days of running SLI may soon come to an end. However, if they didn't, what boards would you suggest that house the 750i chipset? Thank you very much for your timely response. I appreciate it.


Message edited by sandboxunlv on 04-04-2008 at 07:50:50 PM
Reply to sandboxunlv

I'm aching to get away from nVidia chipsets due to several issues (burn-outs, low FSB OC, weird RAM compatibility and RAID errors) on 680i and 780i. My next chipset will be x38.

That said, I would choose the following chipsets in these senarios:

You want a single GPU and good OC head room = p35

You want Crossfire and good OC head room = x38

You want SLI (i.e. the top GPU-solution with the most options at the moment) and marginal OC head room = i780

I've excluded i790 and x48 since the price/perfomance relative to the other chipsets is borderline absurd at this point. Also, it's worth noting that i680 boards will probably never support Penryn quad cores, so I've left this one out of the running.

In my xp, all the intel chipsets seem to OC a tad better than nV.

------------------------------ q9450(@3.6ghz) - Abit ix38 Quad GT
4GB G.Skill 8500 - 2X WD 640GB RAID 0 - 2X Sapphire 4870 X2 CrossfireX
Razer Barracuda AC-1/HP-1 Sound - HP LP3065 30"
Vista Premium 64
Reply to harmattan

Good p35 gigabyte motherboards are DS3L or DS3R if you want raid.

Reply to San Pedro

If I was building a box to last 1-2 years, it would be X35/38/680i with DDR2...tho the 680i was disappointing.

If I was building for 3-4 years it would be X48 (using Sauron's MoBo - see link below) or the 790i

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3229

Reply to JackNaylorPE

Thank you for your input harmattan and San Pedro! I'll research the Gigabyte boards as I would like to compare the ABIT IP35 Pro to one of them in like performance/value. I do like eVGA's 780i, but I don't particularly care for the issues that are taking place with it on their site. I guess I need to do a bit of research on ATI's CrossFire to see if it's worthy or not. Again, thank you everyone for your input.

Reply to sandboxunlv

Why has no-one asked the key question? What processor will you be running? the X48 makes sense for a highly overclocked Q9450 running a P35 would run into walls with OCing.

Reply to acidpython

[quotemsg=1764791,1,319940] I’m really trying my best to stick to Intel’s Q6600 with G0 stepping. Also, I’ve been known to do a little mild to wild overclocking. With this setup, a little overclocking is in order. Stability becomes a concern. I would like to utilize the 64bit version of Vista as well, so I’d like to purchase 8 gigs worth of memory as well.


Message edited by ill_take_two on 04-05-2008 at 03:33:36 AM
Reply to ill_take_two

You want SLI (i.e. the top GPU-solution with the most options at the moment) and marginal OC head room = i780

i was in your predicament too i'm looking to build Q4
this may help you
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] w=0&nojs=0

Reply to ill_take_two

acidpython wrote :

Why has no-one asked the key question? What processor will you be running? the X48 makes sense for a highly overclocked Q9450 running a P35 would run into walls with OCing.



Hardly, P35 still has the record for FSB overclock, one guy has broken 700MHz with it(source: http://valid.x86-secret.com/records.php). Although to be fair, overclocking relies a lot on luck and those high scores were with LN2 anyway. The point I was making though is that P35 is a great overclocking platform for any of the current Intel CPUs.

As far as P35 boards go, the Abit IP35 series is good, and the GigaByte P35 boards are recommended by many.

Reply to Gravemind123
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Gravemind123 wrote :

Hardly, P35 still has the record for FSB overclock, one guy has broken 700MHz with it(source: http://valid.x86-secret.com/records.php). Although to be fair, overclocking relies a lot on luck and those high scores were with LN2 anyway. The point I was making though is that P35 is a great overclocking platform for any of the current Intel CPUs.

 

As far as P35 boards go, the Abit IP35 series is good, and the GigaByte P35 boards are recommended by many.

 


Those high oc on p35 are done by teh 1337 d0rks. You will not duplicate 700x4=2800mhz no matter what. Some people, under realistic conditions have pushed p35 to 450x4=1800, but it's shaky, and only on a few higher costing p35 boards. It's not something to count on. Basically, the assumption is that you can get stable 1600mhz out of p35, and stable 2000+mhz on x38. 1600mhz = 9x400 = 3.6ghz in Q6600, and 8x400 = 3.2ghz in Q9450.

 

Besides, $207 for a x38 isn't that much if you spent a lot on an expensive quad processor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128089

------------------------------ Q6600@3.6ghz, GA-EX38-DS4 motherboard, 8gb 800mhz ddr2 4-3-3-12, 8800GTS(g92)@780mhz, 1TB + 1.5TB hdds, 850watt psu
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