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February 16, 2008 4:33:11 PM

I was deciding between:

XP SP2

XP 32 SP2 (does it come in 64 and is it worth-while to get)

or

Vista 64 Business

I heard the best or stable version of Vista is Business...

What is everyone's opinion???

Just don't know about applications that are supported, drivers and stuff like that.

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February 16, 2008 5:00:53 PM

Vista Ultimate 64 if your hardware is pretty new. Check for 64bit drivers for any printers or other equipment before going 64. Otherwise Vista 32 is fine.
February 16, 2008 5:10:15 PM

If you have a new PC hardware, then either Vista 32 or Vista 64 will be fine. If you have old hardware, XP should be your choice.

Vista's application and driver support has improved greatly since it's release date and with Vista SP1 on the horizon, it should only get better. I doubt you need to speed time worrying about support issues at this point, unless it's old PC hardware like I said above. Instead you should consider the pros and cons of each operating system and decide which you like better.
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February 16, 2008 5:16:26 PM

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Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
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ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
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G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK
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EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
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February 16, 2008 5:33:03 PM

Vista Home Premium 64bit if you want to go with a 64bit OS.

Do not get Ultimate, it is a waste of an extra $100 or so. The only difference really between Ultimate and Home Premium is you get Texas Hold'em, Dreamscene desktop (So you can have movies as your desktop) and bitlocker.
February 16, 2008 5:36:41 PM

Ultimate also comes with 32bit and 64bit.
February 16, 2008 5:44:16 PM

Ultimate has a better backup utility also. You can put a restore image on your HDD with ultimate. Well worth it IMO. $189.00 for Ultimate OEM.
February 16, 2008 5:52:16 PM

What about Business Edition???
February 16, 2008 6:00:37 PM

Same as Ultimate but Ultimate has a couple of extras.
February 16, 2008 6:25:44 PM

That seems to have more to do with memory usage in Vista?
February 16, 2008 7:15:34 PM

Business is basically the vista version of xp pro. has the features of ultimate, but no media center.
February 16, 2008 8:04:56 PM

mlaporta said:
That seems to have more to do with memory usage in Vista?

Yes, but it also applies to the differences between 32bit and 64 bit, whether Vista or XP. Pay attention to the part on memory "footprint".
February 16, 2008 8:12:04 PM

Okay thank you tlmck!
February 16, 2008 8:14:28 PM

Hey Mike,
Have ya got everything except the OS?
PM me if you want to
February 17, 2008 8:49:59 AM

Well it looks like I'm just going to go with XP Pro SP2 because with Windows 7 looming around the corner no reason to go to Vista and then have to jump-ship to Windows 7...
February 17, 2008 7:15:56 PM

Hmmmm Vista Business sounds good...
February 17, 2008 7:37:57 PM

Windows 7 is still about a couple of years away. Basing your decision on when Windows 7 is going to arrive doesn't make too much sense. Whether your going from XP SP2 to Windows 7 or Vista to Windows 7, they both are going to seem like your jumping ship. If you have the hardware to support either XP SP2 or Vista, you just need to look at what each operating system has to offer. They both have their pros and cons, you simply need to decide which is more in your favor.

Also, when it comes to the different Vista versions. Vista Business and Enterprise are equivalent to XP Pro. Vista Home Basic and Home Premium are like XP Home and Media Center Edition. Vista Ultimate is just like it sounds, everything all the different Vista versions offer put together into one version.
February 17, 2008 8:09:05 PM

Well here is another question I have? I need to wipe and reinstall windows and was going to upgrade to Vista. The question I am not sure about it to go 32-bit or 64-bit.

I currently have:
Athlon X2 3800
Asus M2NPV-VM (Nforce 6150)
2 x 1 GB Corsair PC6400 CAS 4
and other irrelevant stuff for the purposes of this post

I may upgrade to 4 GB of RAM in the future and don't want to reinstall windows if I don't have to. I looked at the Vista RAM article and it wasn't clear to me 4 GB (~3.5 GB) RAM and Vista 32 or 4 GB and Vista 64 makes more sense. i also may upgrade to an 65 nm Athlon X2 5400 or there abouts soon too. I use the box some lite gaming, HTPC, and general office use. I am also thinking of picking up a Radeon 3650 or Geforce 9600 when they come out.

Opinions of the OS?

February 17, 2008 8:20:13 PM

Dooyas said:
Vista Home Premium 64bit if you want to go with a 64bit OS.

Do not get Ultimate, it is a waste of an extra $100 or so. The only difference really between Ultimate and Home Premium is you get Texas Hold'em, Dreamscene desktop (So you can have movies as your desktop) and bitlocker.


That and a pretty fancy mechanism that automatically backs up your documents and saves multiple revisions of them.
February 17, 2008 9:41:16 PM

Well heres the scoop:

Vista Ultimate with 8GB of ram is as good as XP Pro with 3GB of ram.
But Windows 7 comes out next year, so why spend a huge pile of cash on Vista, when XP will do the job.
And you will be able to upgrade to Win 7 and get it's 64 bit version when it comes out.
So get XP Pro oem and save some bucks.


Rattus Viola: Sino non they quisnam operor non have scientia futurus vestri rector.
February 17, 2008 10:12:19 PM

Whatever you do, do it 64 bit.
February 17, 2008 10:20:19 PM

Are there any draw-backs to using XP Pro 64-bit such as applications support or anything like that???
February 17, 2008 10:24:01 PM

For all those Windows 7 people, Vista was supposed to come out in early 2006, and it came out in early 2007. Don't be so sure of Window's 7's release.
February 18, 2008 1:44:21 AM

Worried about application support on 64-bit OS...
February 18, 2008 2:13:12 AM

64 bit vista will have good application and driver support, 64 bit Xp will be ok for applications, where you get nailed is on drivers especially if you have old equipment (printers, scanners, and so forth). I ran win xp 64 for a while and it did not like any of the lexmark drivers, or epson. So I went back to xp home 32. My new build I am moving up to the 64 bit Vista HP.
February 18, 2008 3:31:58 AM

bobbknight said:
Well heres the scoop:

Vista Ultimate with 8GB of ram is as good as XP Pro with 3GB of ram.
But Windows 7 comes out next year, so why spend a huge pile of cash on Vista, when XP will do the job.
And you will be able to upgrade to Win 7 and get it's 64 bit version when it comes out.
So get XP Pro oem and save some bucks.


Rattus Viola: Sino non they quisnam operor non have scientia futurus vestri rector.


bob... MS has come out saying that Win 7 won't come out in 2009 a little more than a week after the 2009 rumor started. 2010 is the official date, but it wouldn't surprise me if it slides all the way to 2011 or 2012.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/28/windows-7-isnt-headed-for-2009-says-microsoft-more-like-2011/
http://onlineapps.newsvine.com/_news/2008/01/27/1259275-windows-7-release-date-

*OS preference not intended or implied by this post for any currently available OS. Just to update on the release of Win 7.
February 18, 2008 4:24:21 AM

vista ultimate 64 bit $174 OEM version....64 Bit drivers are available for almost all Hardware.
February 18, 2008 4:58:33 AM

If you are a benchmarker: XP x64

Gamer or Artist that requires DX10: Vista x64

Gamer or Artist that doesn't require DX10: XP x64

Casual internet browsing, business, or most anything else Vista x64

I agree though, keep it 64-bit!
February 18, 2008 5:17:02 AM

bobbknight said:
Well heres the scoop:

Vista Ultimate with 8GB of ram is as good as XP Pro with 3GB of ram.
But Windows 7 comes out next year, so why spend a huge pile of cash on Vista, when XP will do the job.
And you will be able to upgrade to Win 7 and get it's 64 bit version when it comes out.
So get XP Pro oem and save some bucks.


Rattus Viola: Sino non they quisnam operor non have scientia futurus vestri rector.
















XP Pro OEM $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Vista Home Premium OEM $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Home Premium is IMHO the best option. Ultimate has a couple nice extra features but you just need to decide if they are worth the extra money. One nice thing about Vista is that all the versions are on all the disks so if you know someone with Vista borrow their disk and try out the different versions for yourself.
February 18, 2008 6:22:35 AM

mlaporta said:
I was deciding between:

XP SP2

XP 32 SP2 (does it come in 64 and is it worth-while to get)

or

Vista 64 Business

I heard the best or stable version of Vista is Business...

What is everyone's opinion???

Just don't know about applications that are supported, drivers and stuff like that.


where do people get the idea that thats a more "Stable" version - its the same core, but in theory home basic would be the most stable - less everything, no 3D overlay - if you look at it that way.

pffffttt
February 18, 2008 7:01:33 AM

apache_lives said:
where do people get the idea that thats a more "Stable" version - its the same core, but in theory home basic would be the most stable - less everything, no 3D overlay - if you look at it that way.

pffffttt
Since they all came on the same disc, I installed Ultimate, Business, and Premium just to try out before installing Home Basic. Did not run any benchmarks other than a few rounds of the Crysis demo, but I did notice Home Basic had snappier performance on the same hardware.

Since I did not need any of the features included in the other 3, I just stuck with Home Basic. Other than the interface changes, I don't really see much difference between it and XP Home SP2.

February 18, 2008 9:02:39 AM

ausch30 said:
XP Pro OEM $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Vista Home Premium OEM $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Home Premium is IMHO the best option. Ultimate has a couple nice extra features but you just need to decide if they are worth the extra money. One nice thing about Vista is that all the versions are on all the disks so if you know someone with Vista borrow their disk and try out the different versions for yourself.


Does anybody actually know the difference between home and pro? unless you want domain support, multi socket cpu support or multi-language support then the difference is zero. On the other hand 64 bit versions are available, and again, are you going to use more then 4gb of memory?

operating systems are a big s#!t storm of BS with "instabilities" and useless unused features
February 18, 2008 10:34:25 PM

Houston I think we have a winner!
February 18, 2008 10:50:00 PM

run XP 32 in my opinion. Much faster than vista. I have the same games installed on both my partitions and can easily notice the difference in performance between XP and vista. XP is way faster for games in DX9 or DX10.
February 20, 2008 1:56:12 AM

rodney_ws said:
That and a pretty fancy mechanism that automatically backs up your documents and saves multiple revisions of them.



Yes yes, sorry, I forgot about the backup system in it. :) 

It also supports more memory in the 64bit version.
February 20, 2008 2:54:37 AM

From Engadget article;
Update: Other quotes from Microsoft has the date set at 3 years from the launch of Vista, which would indeed land it around 2009, so perhaps all hope is not lost. No date is set yet, and our money is on 2010 at the earliest.
As to the Newsvine blog Meh, Engadget gets it right more often.
Still a copy of Win XP Pro would be much better than Vista and when XP SP3 comes out we get a speed increase of 10% by early reporting.



Rattus Viola: Sino non they quisnam operor non have scientia futurus vestri rector.
February 20, 2008 6:32:39 AM

bobbknight said:
From Engadget article;
Update: Other quotes from Microsoft has the date set at 3 years from the launch of Vista, which would indeed land it around 2009, so perhaps all hope is not lost. No date is set yet, and our money is on 2010 at the earliest.
As to the Newsvine blog Meh, Engadget gets it right more often.
Still a copy of Win XP Pro would be much better than Vista and when XP SP3 comes out we get a speed increase of 10% by early reporting.



Rattus Viola: Sino non they quisnam operor non have scientia futurus vestri rector.


Why pro over home?
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