Geforce 9800GTX revealed

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Ge [...] /5599.html

My 8800GTS has a 678 core and a 1725 shader so unfortunately this is only the small increase we all suspected <sigh>

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I hope so.

Someone feel free to correct my logic on this... but it seems to me those specs are incredibly fake. That's just an overclocked 512 GTS! Not only would it never be that long, it wouldn't need dual 6 pin power connectors. You can buy a voltmodded 512 GTS on ebay with 850/2000/2050 speeds and it only runs on one connector and completely out paces an ultra at those speeds. If this is the real specs nvidia might as well call it 9800 retard addition.

Why buy a volt modded one? Cause you can't get those speeds without voltmodding.... and this is using the stock cooler... more performance than an ultra for half the price in a single gpu configuration? I'm starting to wonder why I didn't bid on it...

Did you not read my whole post? Basis was my comparison to the 512 GTS having the same specs but lower clock speed, yet being shorter and not requiring two 6 pin connectors even after being voltmodded to higher specs than VR is reporting for the 9800. Those specs they list are completely illogical, and if they turn out to be true nvidia is just wasting our time.

Why fetch out a high end card that isnt much better than its Mid-range counterpart??

By releasing the 9800 with a 256bit bus nVidia would be taking a step back. Although, we are yet to see a G9x GPU with more than a 256bit bus.... But judging from the performance we get from 256bit... imagine what we'd be getting from 386bit or 512!?

nVidia isnt going to release a 9800 series that only just outpaces its recently released 9600 models (not unless nvidia plans on selling these single GPU 9800 cards for under £200/$400)....

The GX2 isnt going to be a failure either, look at 9600GT SLI scaling... 2 x 9600's outpacing a 8800 Ultra.
So 2 x 9800 GPUs (and they will be 9800 specs, otherwise it'd be called the 8800GX2) should give the same healthy scaling we got from the 9600GT, but with around double the performance (at least DOUBLE the SP's and a step up to a 386bit bus or higher)

All I'm doing is using logic here and working on facts we currently have to make a kinda educated estimate at what the 9800GTX & 9800GX2 can achieve.

2 x 9600GT's in SLI = 8800 Ultra Performance
2 x 9600GT's cost £230 1 8800 Ultra costs £320 minimum

The 9800GX2 can be expected to be at least 50% more powerful than the 9600GT SLi setup (that's no crazy estimate is it?) so I expect nVidia to warrant a £350 minimum price tag on the new 9800GX2...

As for pricing on the 9800GTX... if it outdoes the ATi HD3870 X2 then it'll be priced slightly higher... If it outdoes it by a large margin, then expect £300 minimum.

BUT... If nVidia have a beast up their sleeve in the 9800GTX, with some 192 SP's, 1GB DDR4 & Rediculously fast Shader clocks, what's to stop nVidia going the 8800GTX route again and asking £400 a card... again.

Bottom line is.... The 9600GT is a great card. The 9 series is off to a perfect start, since nVidia's mid-range card is performing as good as ATi's High-end Single GPU solutions - 3850/3870 being their high end)
nVidia's not going to release a failure this time around. Ignore all the spec rumours and wait for something official. I'm sure ATi will have some fudged spec figures waiting to go to press as soon as the GTX specs see the light of day....

192 SP's would be nice though wouldnt it

Crysis needs them.

Expect more from the 9800GX2.. remember the G92 performs excellently at 256bit bus, so if this new generation is 386bit or 512bit then the 9800GX2 should fly above 8800GTX SLi performance.

As for the GTX... 8800GT SLi performance sounds feasible... but I'd hope for more... since 2 x 8800GT's will cost you under £300 if you shop around... but so will a 3870 X2, but for even less.... so I dont expect nVidia's flagship product to arrive that cannot outdo ATi's top end card and it's certainly gotta outpace a 8800GT configuration.

2 X 9800GTX's in SLi.... (if they scale like the 9600's) = Crysis @ 1680 X 1050 4xAA 16xAF @ High settings = +40fps

I'd hope so anyway

I agree with the first conclusion, but not the second. 2 GT's should be far more powerful.

Check this rather long link >>

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/char [...] C273%2C242

Going on the previous generation, a single 8800GTX outdoes the 7900GTX SLi by a very small margin. So dos1986 may be right on the mark there.. except.... we're comparing 8800GT SLi performance here.... NOT 8800GTX SLi performance.

So Im guessing 9800GTXs are going to perform slightly better than 8800GTXs in SLi.

Anyone willing to put a £10 wager on it

We dont know for sure if the GTX will be G92. Its still at least a month off and nothing official about its specs has been released by nvidia... all we can be sure about so far is that it'll be called 9800GTX and its a graphics card.

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