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need help cutting down the cost of this planned rig

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February 21, 2008 2:27:32 AM

$35 Rosewill R103A Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i just chose a cheap case at the start of my search n stuck with it

$33 LG Black 20X DVD+R Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$67 Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 250gb HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$45 G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$240 Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3Ghz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$219 EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$639 total..

i didnt put any motherboard or fans on the list.. cause i knew id need help pickin those out.. i know i could choose a lesser processor and overclock it, doesnt matter to me.. id like an SLI or CrossFire gpu/mobo, just in case i pick up a second gpu later down the road.. but whatever..

im assuming itll come out to around $800 with all the pieces (not including monitor, mouse, keyboard).. and id like that to be knocked down a bit.. my intention is to be able to play somethin like call of duty 4 with the settings up pretty high.. but iono how low i can go with the gpu/cpu while keeping that goal still in sight.. any help would be appreciated :D 
February 21, 2008 3:13:41 AM

change the GPU... the 8800GT will beat that card, and is cheaper... do not go for the 320 or 640mb versions of the 8800gt, as they are old, and End Of Life...
February 21, 2008 6:27:31 AM

amd_fanboi said:
change the GPU... the 8800GT will beat that card, and is cheaper... do not go for the 320 or 640mb versions of the 8800gt, as they are old, and End Of Life...


ok so would you prefer

this one
that one
or this one?

or a different/better one that i failed to list..

thanks for the response btw...

how about this processor?.. would i still be able to run games at a high level with this? if so, can i get an even slower one and still run those games?

sorry for all the questions, i have no idea what im doin
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February 21, 2008 7:28:13 AM

WD 250gig - 63.99

theres $3 right there :) 

imo if your not overclocking amd is the way to go, if you are iv read people are having trouble getting the 6000+/6400+ over 3.4ghz (im running 3.45ghz on my 6400, but cant seem to keep it stable much higher). the e8400 is predicted to clock over 4ghz easily.

as for cpu cooler, may i suggest the tuniq toer 120.
it took my old oc'd 4400+ from 30/40c (idle/load) to about 25/30c

as for motherboard: check these out
cheap overclocking boards (link stolen from chuckm)
or if you just want one that works $23.97 after rebates

...theres more than likley better parts for less money out there, i just hope this helps
February 21, 2008 8:38:36 AM

The case may be ok , but the PSU that comes with it, isn't. You're going to need clean, stable power no matter what other parts you choose and you need more amps on the 12V rail for the video card. Here's the deal of the day on a power supply;
http://www.buy.com/prod/Corsair-VX-550W-Power-Supply/q/...
February 21, 2008 9:47:16 AM

Go with chuckm's advice. :bounce: 
Do NOT use PSU that came with the case . It will probably fail and take other parts with it.

Mike
February 21, 2008 9:26:34 PM

On newegg look at some antec cases that come with a PSU. Alot of them have the EA380 earthwatts which is a good little PSU.
February 22, 2008 12:55:33 AM

I don't think a 380 will handle the video card, I could be wrong though. Of the other video cards, go with the MSI, it has 512 Mb of ram , the other two are only 256. You went from and Intel CPU to AMD, stick with Intel. Look at the 21XX series which can OC to around 3 GHz, you can always upgrade later.The motherboards linked above are all under $100.
I would swap the ram for Crucial Ballistix cost less after rebate and it has better timings and overclocks great;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Do you need an OS?

February 22, 2008 6:52:31 AM

ok so i took your suggestions and compiled a new list..

$20 Raidmax Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$40 Apevia 500W PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$33 LG Black 20X DVD+R Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$64 Western Digital 250gb HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$40 CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$33 PC Chips AMD Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$40 Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$185 Radeon HD 3870 512MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$155 AMD 6000+ CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

comes out to $610.. the mobo is probably crap, but i cant tell.. i tried to get pieces that would be compatible, but i probably failed miserably at that.. assuming that this rig would work, how well would a game like Call of Duty 4 perform on it? thank you all for your responses
February 22, 2008 8:25:00 AM

that mobo really scares me... can you not go for something like an m2n-sli mobo + 5000+be combo (as an example...)
February 22, 2008 8:41:43 AM

That power supply is just as bad or worse than the Rosewill, get this one and you won't have to worry about that ;
http://www.buy.com/prod/Corsair-VX-550W-Power-Supply/q/...

The board and CPU you changed to comes to $188. Go with Intel.
Go with this CPU;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This board;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Comes to $164, more bang, less $$$. Take the 24 bucks you just saved and get the corsair power supply.
February 22, 2008 11:04:42 AM

chuckm said:
That power supply is just as bad or worse than the Rosewill, get this one and you won't have to worry about that ;
http://www.buy.com/prod/Corsair-VX-550W-Power-Supply/q/...

The board and CPU you changed to comes to $188. Go with Intel.
Go with this CPU;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This board;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Comes to $164, more bang, less $$$. Take the 24 bucks you just saved and get the corsair power supply.


ok thats awesome.. how powerful (maybe weak is a better term) would this setup be? like what FPS would i be able to get out of a high-end game and with what settings?.. im asking because if it seems too weak for what i want im willing to pay more.. once again, thanks for the responses
February 22, 2008 11:09:48 AM

It would be hard to knock the price down but keep the 8400.

Get a Intel Pentium Dual and OC it to 3.2
February 22, 2008 5:18:50 PM

If you wait a Little you can get an E8200, same chip just lower multiplier. or, if you go AMD, get a stripped down 7-series board. My personal policy is never skimp on the Mobo or the PSU. the other parts are mostly workable. If you live near a MicroCenter, you can get a Samsung DVD burner for $25, a Coolermaster CM690 for $20, pay the tax but save the cost of shipping. you could use OEM cooling and still OC a little bit if you're really trying to save money. prolly shave $30+ off your build using these suggestions.

I agree on the Corsair though. either that or a Seasonic.
February 22, 2008 8:26:16 PM

I've never really been an AMD fan, but if the PC CHIPS board is anything like their Intel boards I've done builds with (2), they are not worth it.
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