According to our tests, this CPU is based on highly anticipated B3 stepping technology. And, it's meant to be error-free, allow higher clock speeds and still consume less power than AMD's Phenom 9300 and 9400 models.
According to our tests, this CPU is based on highly anticipated B3 stepping technology. And, it's meant to be error-free, allow higher clock speeds and still consume less power than AMD's Phenom 9300 and 9400 models.
How do we know it doesn't OC any more or perform faster? Certainly not from this article that's basicly "You know AMD had errata, they're gone in this new revision and it fits into a MSI K9A2 Platinium without a bios update."
We still don't know if AMD have done anything else to the Phenom in Revision 3, than getting rid of the errata. They might just have tweaked it so it performs better than the second revision in one or more ways, hell it might even be a decent overclocker. We just can't tell from the article.
However it's easter so I forgive Toms Hardware for this severely lacking article that's hardly interesting for anyone but owners of a MSI K9A2 Platinium mottherboard.
How do we know it doesn't OC any more or perform faster? Certainly not from this article that's basicly "You know AMD had errata, they're gone in this new revision and it fits into a MSI K9A2 Platinium without a bios update."
We still don't know if AMD have done anything else to the Phenom in Revision 3, than getting rid of the errata. They might just have tweaked it so it performs better than the second revision in one or more ways, hell it might even be a decent overclocker. We just can't tell from the article.
However it's easter so I forgive Toms Hardware for this severely lacking article that's hardly interesting for anyone but owners of a MSI K9A2 Platinium mottherboard.
Did you read the whole thing? They state they will have a full batch of test in a review soon. Anand had the same thing yesterday so its not just THG. Next few days will be interesting.
I wonder, if we all think together that the B3 phenom will perform and OC much better, if it will really happen. Put those possitive brain waves into good use...
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#1) It fixes the Errata.
#2) It does not OC any more.
#3) It does not perform any faster clock for clock.
#4) It does not use any more power.
Gotta what to the Fall for the 45nm versions for those hopes.
Well we don't know if it OC's further and we don't know for sure if it uses the same /more/less power....put we should expect the same.
What we do know is that the TLB "bug" which has only showed up in a -lab- so far is fixed.
To be honest this "bug" has never been seen outside of a -lab-.....so good call for AMD fixing the -bug- anyhow after first recalling past shipments.
Perhaps near end of the year they will ship a 3Ghz product.
No matter the maker in real life after you hit 3Ghz only a benchmark can tell if a game runs any better...and almost all software is still P4 rated.
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I just want all the damn prices to go down on all the chips period. Intel need some competion hopefully this bring down the chip costs.
I am sure it will.
Right now a game running with a AMD 6000+ @ $111 USD runs just as well as far as the player can tell vrs a top of the line Intel quad overclocked @ $1,100 USD.
Benchmarks can see a gain...but the game player or human eye can't.
Game and office software is still using the P4 rateings.
Message edited by ZOldDude on 03-18-2008 at 03:48:51 PM
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Well we don't know if it OC's further and we don't know for sure if it uses the same /more/less power....put we should expect the same.
What we do know is that the TLB "bug" which has only showed up in a -lab- so far is fixed.
To be honest this "bug" has never been seen outside of a -lab-.....so good call for AMD fixing the -bug- anyhow after first recalling past shipments.
Perhaps near end of the year they will ship a 3Ghz product.
No matter the maker in real life after you hit 3Ghz only a benchmark can tell if a game runs any better...and almost all software is still P4 rated.
Thing about the OC'ing is we don't know that the TLB Bug was causing that. It might just be the architecture or the process(65nm SOI).
And for some games such as Crysis, even after 3GHz it helps. And a lot of games after that will probably be the same. But of course thats just one game and you are right that after 3GHz on most games only a benchmark will tell. I ran the CS:Source stress test twice and got 140-160FPS average. But to me it just looked normal until I saw the results.
I am sure it will. Right now a game running with a AMD 6000+ @ $111 USD runs just as well as far a the player can tell vrs a top of the line Intel quad overclocked @ $1,100 USD.
Benchmarks can see a gain...but the game player or human eye can't. Game and office software is still using the P4 rateings.
^^ Did you hear that the new 5600+ will be a black edition unlocked multiplier at 65w instead of 89w. Might be nice, they are releasing this, the phenoms b3, and the Tri Cores soon. Currently Im on an old p4 I sold my 6400+ waiting on these phenom chips. I have waited so long, so dang long.
Message edited by mrgoodbar on 03-18-2008 at 03:47:29 PM
Nothing is ever going to make Crysis run better/faster....it was written for the top end hardware when it was written.
Don't spend a dime thinking it will run better if you already have any brand CPU @ 3Ghz (1-500 cores) or a 8800GTX.
Most people who just play games or run home GFX/Office software would have to be "less than smart" to pay -ten times- the price for a CPU if they could never "see" a gain.
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Nothing is ever going to make Crysis run better/faster....it was written for the top end hardware when it was written.
Don't spend a dime thinking it will run better if you already have any brand CPU @ 3Ghz (1-500 cores) or a 8800GTX.
No its more like Doom 3/HL2. They were both released and could run on current hardware but performed the best on hardware yet to be released. I am sure that a R770 or G100 will be able to tame Crysis. But the CPU with more IPC and at least 3GHz will help for now.
No its more like Doom 3/HL2. They were both released and could run on current hardware but performed the best on hardware yet to be released. I am sure that a R770 or G100 will be able to tame Crysis. But the CPU with more IPC and at least 3GHz will help for now.
Jimbo...I edited my post above yours while you submited yours.
By the way....Crysis is not a "problem" for almost everyone to run/play.
The idea that Cysis runs like a P.O.S. untill you have the latest hardware which did not exist when it was written is the BS of hardware salers and nothing more...nor will it ever be.
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*While we crash and burn, small, low tech, agrarian societies such as the Hmong in the mountains of Laos will continue on without so much as blinking an eye.*
Jimbo...I edited my post above yours while you submited yours.
By the way....Crysis is not a "problem" for almost everyone to run/play.
What I mean by "tame" is not so much a problem. But being able to run it at a decent res(such as 1680x1050) with everything set to very high and AA/AF. Right now I have yet to see one that can play at those settings while getting 30+FPS average.
