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Hi I've been wanting to put together a computer for a while now and I wanted to make sure that it would all make sense in the end.

Case
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: Nine Hundred
Item #: N82E16811129021


Board
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: 132-CK-NF78-A1
Item #: N82E16813188024



Power Supply
Thermaltake Purepower RX W0144RU ATX12V / EPS12V 600W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: W0144RU
Item #: N82E16817153049


CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail
Model #: BX80570E8400
Item #: N82E16819115037


Thermal Compound
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Model #: ARCTIC SILVER 5
Item #: N82E16835100008


Cooler
ZALMAN 9500A 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
Model #: 9500A
Item #: N82E16835118223



Case fans
Antec 761345-75024-0 120mm Blue LED Case Fan - Retail
Model #: 761345-75024-0
Item #: N82E16835209011



I haven't decided on memory yet as i'm not sure which one is right (I'm looking for about 4 Gb)

I'm also wondering on what boards does crossfire work (I'm hovering between 2 X 3870 or 2 X 9600)

Thank you very much for your help in this matter.

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AS5 is old & expensive. Go with this:

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/furt [...] hp?idx=140

It's non electrical conductive & it cools better than AS5. AS5 is conductive in which it can't be applied to things like mosfets. MX-2 can be used on anything.

For the best bang CF X16 board, look at ASUS P5E with DDR2 support. For the best bang SLI x16 board, look at EVGA 780i.

As for ram, any 800mhz 2x2gb kits will do.

Do you overclock?

Reply to akhilles

I was thinking of overclocking a bit (in an around the 3.6-3.8 range)
I looked for mother board and found this one:

ASUS P5E WS Professional LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6813131236

and

A-DATA 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820211188
and my go for another set after

Here are the links for the other stuff:

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6817153049

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6819115037

Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6835118223

Case: http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6811129021


As for the graphics cards I'll be going with 2 X 3870 since I hardly use AA or AF (I probably even spelled them wrong just now) :lol:


I forgot to mention (though it is pretty obvious this will be a gaming build and I'll use Vista Home premium (for more than 4 Gigs) also by the time I make this build the prices of the items will probably be lower and Vista might actually make sense :P

Reply to jonyb222

your original mobo is not an Xfire(ATI) board but rather a SLI(NVIDIA) setup. If you want an ATI board go with a p38 or X38 setup. If you stay with the board you've picked then think of some SLI nvidia options. by the way your rig will be close to mine. I posted my tread a while ago.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] humbs-wait

Reply to troymscott
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If you're doing crossfire look at this Asus board instead;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131227

I haven't used one yet, but this cooler may be the way to go;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233012


Message edited by chuckm on 02-22-2008 at 11:14:50 PM
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Reply to chuckm

So the Maximus is a better choice?

ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131227

Reply to jonyb222
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I think the WS stands for 'work station' but I'm not real sure. I believe there are more bios and overclocking options with the Maximus and with what you're wanting to do, it'll perform better. Again, I haven't used either board, so this is just guessing on my part, maybe someone can confirm this.

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Reply to chuckm

well there was a server version of the MS so it would make sense if it was a high performance workstation model though it said it had some features for OC...

Reply to jonyb222

Keep in mind that ASUS is not very newbie-friendly in terms of overclocking. There are some weired-s settings you can't figure out on your own. Call it Engrish. i.e. we say vdroop (voltage drop under load), they say load-line. Gigabyte has X38 boards also, but they're newbie-friendly.

WS stands for wireless, I believe. The similiarity is that they all have built-in wireless adapters.

It's a toss up between the P5E & Maximum. Maximum may be better in terms of overclocking, but then again, it has MORE confusing overclocking settings in bios. ABIT being the most difficult.

The purepower isn't good enough. Go with Toughpower or other tier 1/2/3:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] p?t=108088

As for how much wattage:

http://ati.amd.com/technology/cros [...] rown2.html

Reply to akhilles
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If an Asus has wireless they add WI-FI to the name, I thought I read somewhere that WS meant work station. This was a while back and I don't remember what site I was on. I'll see if I can track this down. Just checked that WS board does not have wireless, it has 2 lan ports.

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Reply to chuckm

I'd go with a Corsair TX650 or PC Power and Cooling Silencer 610W in that price range for power supply, rather then the Thermaltake.

Reply to Gravemind123

Thermaltake Toughpower W0128RU ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 100 - 240 V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817153040

Tier 2

Make sense?

btw when you say ASUS OC is hard, how hard are we talking about? also are there any mannuals for it around (on a OC site)

Reply to jonyb222
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I found the WS board on the Asus website;
http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx? [...] odelmenu=1
The bios may be harder to understand if you're not familiar with bios settings and overclocking, the WS may or maybe not quite as advanced as the Maximus.
You can download the manual of the Asus board(s) from there website, there are download links with each board listed. Be warned their website is S-L-O-W

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Reply to chuckm

found the maximus page, comparing the two it seems the maximus is a snap to OC compared to the WS

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx? [...] odelmenu=1

Reply to jonyb222
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As I said, I didn't know about either board, glad you're finding the info u need. Also check out this forum, they have lots of threads on individual boards and are good about helping out if you get in a jam.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] y.php?f=59


Message edited by chuckm on 02-24-2008 at 04:57:01 AM
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Reply to chuckm

jonyb222 wrote :

Thermaltake Toughpower W0128RU ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 100 - 240 V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817153040

Tier 2

Make sense?

btw when you say ASUS OC is hard, how hard are we talking about? also are there any mannuals for it around (on a OC site)



As I said before, go with a Corsair TX650 or PC Power and Cooling Silencer 610W. The Cosair is also Tier 2, the PCP&C is Tier 1 and both cost less then the Thermaltake.

Reply to Gravemind123

I'll take that into account, by the time I build it the savings will be gone so I was looking at the one that was cheapest base price with same good performance

thx again for your help everyone!

Reply to jonyb222

I stand corrected. WS is workstation.

There's a good thing about difficult overclocking since you're given more options to fine tune your overclock. You have more control. On the other hand, you have a higher chance of screwing up an overclock. The manual is Engrish at best. Google your board + "overclock" & look at others' settings.

Reply to akhilles

Didn't see an Optical drive listed or a hd:

Samsung SH-S203B SATA

(Get the "Retail" version of the optical drive in order to get software with it. This will include the decoder you'll need to watch movies on it.)

Seagate Barracuda ST3500320AS 500GB 7200.11 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

Reply to mlaporta

no need for the hd, i've already got a raid (2 X 160G baracuda) on my current comp which i'll take out, format and remake with a 3rd drive (along with a big drive for backup)

Reply to jonyb222
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