New mid level system.. (looking for opinionshttp://img.tomshardware.co
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Here is the Mid Grade Setup
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Board..
ASUS P5K-E LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$139.99
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$254.99
Case
Antec Nine Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$99.99
Power Supply
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100
CD/DVD player
SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$34
Video Card
EVGA GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$249.99 $219 rebate
Hard Disk (2 Raid 0)
Barracuda 7200.11 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA-300 Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$119.99
$240 for 2 for Raid 0
OS
Vista 64-Bit Ultimate - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$189.99
Memory
CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) CL 4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$134 - rebate $94
Monitor
SCEPTRE X24WG-1080P Black 24" 2ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 4000:1 Built in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$369.99 - rebate $320
2/28/08 Updated..
Basically this is what I am going with after input from everyone here..
This is a sweet setup IMO
_______________________________
Board..
ASUS P5K-E LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$139.99
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$254.99
Case
Antec Nine Hundred
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$99.99
Power Supply
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$100
CD/DVD player
SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$34
Video Card
EVGA GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$249.99 $219 rebate
Hard Disk (2 Raid 0)
Barracuda 7200.11 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA-300 Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$119.99
$240 for 2 for Raid 0
OS
Vista 64-Bit Ultimate - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$189.99
Memory
CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) CL 4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$134 - rebate $94
Monitor
SCEPTRE X24WG-1080P Black 24" 2ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 4000:1 Built in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$369.99 - rebate $320
2/28/08 Updated..
Basically this is what I am going with after input from everyone here..
This is a sweet setup IMO
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Raptors are no longer worth it. Agree with Cheese go 2X2 on the ram, it uses less voltage than 4X1, here's the same ram in 2X2;
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E168...
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chuckm said:
Raptors are no longer worth it. Agree with Cheese go 2X2 on the ram, it uses less voltage than 4X1, here's the same ram in 2X2;http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E168...
Now the memory isn't as fast, guessing that is why it is cheaper.
The following will save you $120 and be FAR faster then your setup
Instead of Raptor get the following:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA-300 Hard Drive - OEM $ 119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AND With the money save get this:
MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Instead of Raptor get the following:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA-300 Hard Drive - OEM $ 119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AND With the money save get this:
MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OK, let me RE-phrase this a bit:
The following costs the same as you listed and be FAR faster then your setup in HDD and the Video card will be blown away.
Instead of Raptor get the following:
TWO Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA-300 Hard Drive - OEM $ 240.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148288
Instead of the 8600gt get the following:
MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127329
MY Total = $440.00
Your build raptor ($339.98) and 8600gt ($104.99) = $445.00
SOOO you will have a WAYYYY faster Rig, with 1000 GIG Storage and save $5
The following costs the same as you listed and be FAR faster then your setup in HDD and the Video card will be blown away.
Instead of Raptor get the following:
TWO Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA-300 Hard Drive - OEM $ 240.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148288
Instead of the 8600gt get the following:
MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127329
MY Total = $440.00
Your build raptor ($339.98) and 8600gt ($104.99) = $445.00
SOOO you will have a WAYYYY faster Rig, with 1000 GIG Storage and save $5
Silverion77 said:
Im running Vista
(god help me). Coretemp doesnt work on it...Quote:
Core Temp works on Windows 2000, XP and 2003 (both 32bit and 64bit versions).Windows Vista 32bit is fully supported. Vista 64bit users - read this.
grieve said:
OK, let me RE-phrase this a bit:The following costs the same as you listed and be FAR faster then your setup in HDD and the Video card will be blown away.
Instead of Raptor get the following:
TWO Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA-300 Hard Drive - OEM $ 240.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148288
Instead of the 8600gt get the following:
MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127329
MY Total = $440.00
Your build raptor ($339.98) and 8600gt ($104.99) = $445.00
SOOO you will have a WAYYYY faster Rig, with 1000 GIG Storage and save $5
amd_fanboi said:
for OC, yes, you will need a better CPU fanAgreed. The 8600GT's price vs. performance is not very good. The new 7200.11 drives are just as fast as the Raptors but they have much bigger storage and its cheaper.
If OCing get a better coolers like these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
7200.11 only problem I see with new one was 32mb cache is a number quality issues relating to the new model. That buy two 500 gig ones and run them in raid 0. Does raptor has any advantage in design for running in raid? I am guessing not.
So look right now I take a chance on two new 7200.11 500 gig drives with 32 cache.
Is there a big difference between 32 bit OS and 64 bit. Sure if not running 64 bit I am not going to take advantage of it. Is this something I should consider?
So look right now I take a chance on two new 7200.11 500 gig drives with 32 cache.
Is there a big difference between 32 bit OS and 64 bit. Sure if not running 64 bit I am not going to take advantage of it. Is this something I should consider?
Zorg said:
RAM over DDR2 800 is a waste of money on that CPU. Get the DDR2 800 and buy yourself a good heatsink, you will be glad you did.Figuring best way to do this for 4 gigs memory, is 2 * 2 gig sticks. Any preferences on making I should go with for OCing? Also what additional heat sink should I run with.
chrisfromalbany said:
Figuring best way to do this for 4 gigs memory, is 2 * 2 gig sticks. Any preferences on making I should go with for OCing? Also what additional heat sink should I run with.I'm using a Thermalright Ultra120 Extreme with a Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F 120mm Fan and IC Diamond 7 Carat Thermal Compound, but there are other good ones. Just don't get one with the same push pin mounting setup as is on the stock HS, it's garbage. That IC7 is really good, but thick and sticky. If you use it, then make sure you apply it with a razor blade.
grieve said:
chrisfroma lbany you will be happy with those 2 drives in raid 0. They are blazing fast and they don’t have the noise like the raptors. The difference in speed is minimal, you wont even notice… Miliseconds.figure not after seeing some reviews... I see others were more high end Motherboards, how much does this help compared to
ASUS P5K-E LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/prod [...] 6813131225
$139.99
I see other ASUS boards going for $100 more but not looking to for the be all gaming machine so I figure it isn't worth it..
chrisfromalbany said:
so is seagate barra. HD 500 gig w/32 cache the best option for Raid 0 setup. Load time for me is important.Well if you want to dump A LOT more cash you can get a small gain from 2 or more raptors in raid.
1) WAY more money.
2) Minimal gains in speed (seriously, minimal)
3) Raptors are very loud
I would go for 2 barracudas, just make sure there Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 you could even get smaller ones for the OS... like two 100GIG for the OS in Raid 0 and then have a Third 500 for storage.
grieve said:
Well if you want to dump A LOT more cash you can get a small gain from 2 or more raptors in raid. 1) WAY more money.
2) Minimal gains in speed (seriously, minimal)
3) Raptors are very loud
I would go for 2 barracudas, just make sure there Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 you could even get smaller ones for the OS... like two 100GIG for the OS in Raid 0 and then have a Third 500 for storage.
No.. no... I am sold on not getting the Raptors.. The motherboard I am getting comes with some basic sound card. Figure this will be ok. How good it is? And adding $100 for a better motherboard isn't worth it, I am guessing..
chrisfromalbany said:
what are you thoughts about running with Vista.. and you have comments about the 24' monitor?Thanks BTW..
I for one like Vista, (I know it is bloat ware) you will have 2gigs of ram, a smoking processor and a nice vid card, that machine will run Vista beautifully.
I would get the following:
Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You may only need home premium or business premium. Go here to help you decide which version is for you:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/...
*** Just don’t get home basic, and make sure you get OEM (1 license, full version, cheaper)
chrisfromalbany said:
No.. no... I am sold on not getting the Raptors.. The motherboard I am getting comes with some basic sound card. Figure this will be ok. How good it is? And adding $100 for a better motherboard isn't worth it, I am guessing..If you have a nice speaker system I would consider getting a sound card. But ultimately why not wait till you hook it up, listen to the sound that comes on-board and decide from there… You can always add a SoundBlaster the next day. Generally on board sound is pretty decent.
This is your Mother board, It is a good one, don’t change. The sound also looks good.
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=...
ADI® AD1988B 8 -Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
Coaxial / Optical S/PDIF out ports
ASUS Noise Filter
grieve said:
If you have a nice speaker system I would consider getting a sound card. But ultimately why not wait till you hook it up, listen to the sound that comes on-board and decide from there… You can always add a SoundBlaster the next day. Generally on board sound is pretty decent.This is your Mother board, It is a good one, don’t change. The sound also looks good.
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=534&l4=...
ADI® AD1988B 8 -Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
Coaxial / Optical S/PDIF out ports
ASUS Noise Filter
What software am I going to need to run RAID on two Seagate drives? Thanks for all the help.. OK figure the stock one will do for now.
grieve said:
I for one like Vista, (I know it is bloat ware) you will have 2gigs of ram, a smoking processor and a nice vid card, that machine will run Vista beautifully.I would get the following:
Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You may only need home premium or business premium. Go here to help you decide which version is for you:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/...
*** Just don’t get home basic, and make sure you get OEM (1 license, full version, cheaper)
why not run vista 64 bit?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I know you need 4 gigs of memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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