Palm OS vs Microsoft

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I've been a long-time user of Palm hand-helds but am pretty
unimpressed with the latest models. I'd like a handheld that has WiFi
built in. The only Palm that does that is the Tungsten C and I don't
care for the keyboard. I could get a Sony Clie and stay with the Palm
OS but the reviews for most of them are a little shaky. The upshot is
that I'm looking at switching to a Dell Axim and using the Microsoft
OS.

I'm wondering if anyone else has made this switch and how they found
it. Thanks for any insights.



rwd

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Pocket PC's are better but they cost a bit more.

"Randy Dykhuis" <maniakes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I've been a long-time user of Palm hand-helds but am pretty
> unimpressed with the latest models. I'd like a handheld that has WiFi
> built in. The only Palm that does that is the Tungsten C and I don't
> care for the keyboard. I could get a Sony Clie and stay with the Palm
> OS but the reviews for most of them are a little shaky. The upshot is
> that I'm looking at switching to a Dell Axim and using the Microsoft
> OS.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone else has made this switch and how they found
> it. Thanks for any insights.
>
>
>
> rwd

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In an attempt to throw the authorities off his trail, DevilsPGD <lalalaNOSPAM@crazyhat.net> transmitted:
> In message <<Rbnvc.7705$SZ4.6247@bignews5.bellsouth.net>> "Mike"
> <mikeotown@nospam.msn.com> did ramble:
>
>>Pocket PC's are better but they cost a bit more.
>
> Better at what?

Indeed. I haven't seen any indication that there is _any_ Pocket PC
software that will interoperate in the environment I work in. It
appears as though while it's possible to set up a PPP connection that
allows one to access files on a Pocket PC via FTP, there is a severe
paucity of third party applications that will actually interoperate
with those that run on PPC/WinCE.

I'd have to give up on being able to sync pretty much _any_ of the
things I currently sync between desktop and palmtop.
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"Randy Dykhuis" <maniakes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I've been a long-time user of Palm hand-helds but am pretty
> unimpressed with the latest models. I'd like a handheld that has WiFi
> built in. The only Palm that does that is the Tungsten C and I don't
>

My Sony Clie UX50 has built in Wi-fi and I use it daily to receive email at
hot-spots. It's a great little machine and I mean little, very portable.
I've used it for web-browsing as well over wi-fi and GPRS with no problems.

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"Martin" <martin@scotland.org> wrote in message
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> DevilsPGD wrote:
> > In message <<Rbnvc.7705$SZ4.6247@bignews5.bellsouth.net>> "Mike"
> > <mikeotown@nospam.msn.com> did ramble:
> >
> >> Pocket PC's are better but they cost a bit more.
> >
> > Better at what?
>
> Satellite Navigation. That's why I'm selling my palm and buying a Pocket
PC.
> Killer Application.
>
>
>

like the Palm based Garmin iQue...

Am I living in a different world here or can nobody be ar**ed checking stuff
out these days?

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I never have tried any PPC- I must admit.
BUT:
Can PPC do this?
Run stable for more than 30days?
Open any program in less than a second?
Require a lower hardware and therefore run longer on a charge?
Have a resolution of minimum 320x320 or like mine of 320x480?
I know of the new killer PDA with 640x480 but how much of the currently
available software supports this resolution?
Tons of software which is better in user interface, uses less 'pixels' for
itself and therefore displays more information?

Well then I maybe would swap my NX70 for a PPC.

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I guess I'm just used to Windows, so I like it better. Plus they easily can
use your PC's internet connection. I do like the looks of those Treo's
though!

"DevilsPGD" <lalalaNOSPAM@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <<Rbnvc.7705$SZ4.6247@bignews5.bellsouth.net>> "Mike"
> <mikeotown@nospam.msn.com> did ramble:
>
> >Pocket PC's are better but they cost a bit more.
>
> Better at what?
>
> --
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David W. Poole, Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 19:45:25 GMT, "John Hunt"
> <johnmhunt@nospam@@blueyonder.co.uk> was understood to have stated the
> following:
>
>> Am I living in a different world here or can nobody be ar**ed
>> checking stuff out these days?
>
> No, you're living in the same world that found Microsoft dominate the
> desktop. "Gee, it's Microsoft, so it must be better."

I've used a succession of Palm based devices since my Palm Pilot Pro, but
there is no getting away from the fact that currently, if you want to use
your PDA for in-car satellite navigation, the Pocket PC is king.

I challenge you to find a more elegant and cost-effective solution than the
current iPAQ HP2210 with satellite receiver, car kit & Tomtom3 on a Palm
based unit.

I am a Palm user, but I'm not blind to the truth.

Or is this a case of "Gee, it's Palm, so it must be better?"

Martin


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"Martin" <martin@scotland.org> wrote in message
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SNIP

>
> Poor you.
>
> The Garmin isn't as good an in-car solution as the Pocket PC alternatives.
> Oh, and the price I saw was £586 with only 32MB and batteries that last
for
> two hours.
>
> Can nobody be ar**ed checking out stuff properly these days?
>
>
> ---

Please define why the Garmin isn't as good as a PPC alternative? The Garmin
is an all-in-one solution with a higher resolution and larger screen than
most PPC units. By the way, it has an SD slot so 32M of memory isn't an
issue and since it's an in-car solution you can use the car cradle that
provides power and charges the battery at the same time eliminating that as
an issue.

TC

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> >>
> >
> > like the Palm based Garmin iQue...
> >
> > Am I living in a different world here or can nobody be ar**ed
> > checking stuff out these days?
>
> Poor you.
>
> The Garmin isn't as good an in-car solution as the Pocket PC alternatives.
> Oh, and the price I saw was £586 with only 32MB and batteries that last
for
> two hours.
>
> Can nobody be ar**ed checking out stuff properly these days?

I managed to get one new for my mate for a lot less than this off eBay and
he's quite happy with it. As for the batteries, only if you're using it with
the satellite and the version we bought came with a 12V car adaptor.

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"Mike" <mikeotown@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message news:<tRZwc.15786$Iu6.2410@bignews5.bellsouth.net>...
> I guess I'm just used to Windows, so I like it better. Plus they easily can
> use your PC's internet connection. I do like the looks of those Treo's
> though!
>

Ok I dont want to diss you but I have got to reply to the bit about "I
guess I'm just used to Windows". PPC or Smartphone is not in the
slightest bit like windows. The only similarity is the backdrop. I
develop apps for PPC Palm and soon Smartphone. There is no similarity.
If you want something like windows you could just as easily use a palm
and zlauncher. PS it is nothing like windows either but as like it as
PPC. :-)

Cheers
Bob

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Tony Clark wrote:
> "Martin" <martin@scotland.org> wrote in message
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> SNIP
>
>> I've used a succession of Palm based devices since my Palm Pilot
>> Pro, but there is no getting away from the fact that currently, if
>> you want to use your PDA for in-car satellite navigation, the Pocket
>> PC is king.
>>
>> I challenge you to find a more elegant and cost-effective solution
>> than the current iPAQ HP2210 with satellite receiver, car kit &
>> Tomtom3 on a Palm based unit.
>>
>> I am a Palm user, but I'm not blind to the truth.
>>
>> Or is this a case of "Gee, it's Palm, so it must be better?"
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
> How about Tom Tom on Palm?

How about £300 for the Tomtom bit, plus another £250 for a Tungsten T3?
That's £550, and not cost effective against the HP2210 bundles. That's not
more cost effective.

Face it, as good as they are, Palms can't be best at everything!

Martin

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In article <40c61a19$0$151$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk>, Peter
Isachsen <peter@isachsenfjerndette.dk> writes
>- no batterydrain in spite of excessive use.

Perpetual motion?
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"Martin" <martin@scotland.org> wrote in message
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SNIP

> >>
> >> I challenge you to find a more elegant and cost-effective solution
> >> than the current iPAQ HP2210 with satellite receiver, car kit &
> >> Tomtom3 on a Palm based unit.
> >>
> >> I am a Palm user, but I'm not blind to the truth.
> >>
> >> Or is this a case of "Gee, it's Palm, so it must be better?"
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> > How about Tom Tom on Palm?
>
> How about £300 for the Tomtom bit, plus another £250 for a Tungsten T3?
> That's £550, and not cost effective against the HP2210 bundles. That's not
> more cost effective.
>
> Face it, as good as they are, Palms can't be best at everything!
>

In a quick search of UK 2210 pricing I found that according to Pricewatch UK
there is only about 20£ difference between the low price on a 2210 and a T3.
Hardly a significant difference. The TomTom package costs the same for
either PPC or Palm.

I am not saying that Palms are the best at everything but they certainly
compete very well with the 2210 and TomTom package. In this case I would
give the edge to Palm due to the larger and higher resolution screen.

TC