Looks like Nehalem might not be delayed much as Intel already has a lot of stuff on their site about it. Here is an interesting video about the overall improvements in Nehalem.
 
http://www.intel.com/technology/ar [...] o/demo.htm
 
Here is one about their QuickPath system. Kinda interesting.
 
http://www.intel.com/technology/qu [...] _quickpath
 

Saw the videos. All I can say is that they've come a long way since IBM PCjr's specs lol.
 
Im debating whether I should go to Q6600, E8400, Penryn, or Nehalem. I have a E6300 C2D, Windows XP, and Saphire x1900xtx.

 
you might as well just wait. you already have a C2D, and if it's really too slow, OC it. I'm sure it will be worth it if you wait for nehalem

Wow, I am impressed. Definately going to jump on those when they are reasonably priced with 8 cores.
 
My Opteron 165@2.73 Ghz seems to be fine for now, but man, I don't remember computing getting so good so fast.
 
The only thing I hope Intel improves is their HSF attachment scheme, not that it'll plop off if incorrectly installed and land on your videocard or anything.

I was reading Q4 08-Q1 09..do you mean you think it will be sooner?
 
I'm sitting on a Socket 478 Pentium 4 and an AGP graphics card. I'm upgrading soon, but it may just be to an e2160 and a cheaper PCIe card until the summer when I can get either a 4000 series or whatever Nvidia has in mind with their G200 (or is it GT200? lol) since that will almost definitely be transferable over to the Nehalem platform.
 
Eight-core support sounds pretty sweet, since I do a lot of video editing and 3d editing... Wonder when we can expect games optimised for 16 threads, lol.

 
I too do not like it but to tell you the truth its not that bad. My work uses some Dells with E6300's and the stock HSF and they have had them for 2 years and yet to fall off. But I would prefer a method using screws just for ease of mind.
 

 
Well the original release was the normal. Server in mid 08 and then an extreme edition in late 08 for us end users. Then in early 09 we would see the low/mid/high end hit the market. But considering that Intel has so much up I wouldn't be totaly suprised if they decided to release it earlier.
 
But either way if everything works as should with Nehalem there is a lot of performance all around to be gained. I for one hope so as it just looks awesome. Can't wait until the 32nm shrink in 09 either. Man technology rules.

it's actually amazing how fast technology has been progressing lately. before seeing this thread i was preparing to build a new rig this summer. But seeing how i've already survived so long on my ancient p4 system, i might as well wait a bit longer and upgrade once nehalem is out. I'm sure it won't be a bad decision

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Good information, thanks for the links!
 
I don't know, I think Intel will sit on their laurels a bit longer, what with AMD being so far in the dust, that the dust has already settled back where they are, LOL.
 
Why make new tech. when you can clean out your stockpiles and have people pay top-dollar for it?  Kind of makes sense to milk it for a while, which I see Intel doing with their 45nm quad core releases.  Come on, QX9650...$1G for a freaking badass quad core...why?  Because they can!

 
Your wallet my disagree if you splash out on nehlam before q2 2009, and the ddr3 it will require...

 
I agree. But to each his own. I know Nehalem will start quite high in price but I doubt it will be totaly unreasonable. Technically Intel could have brought Penryn and Yorkfeild out for top dollat but comparing the Q9450's price when it hits to the Q6600's first price($800+) shows that Intel might have the ability to release Nehalem at a reasonable price.
 
But for me I am still going to wait for the 32nm shrink. I don't know why but for some reason I feel that that one will just be awesome and not need to be OC'ed. Plus I want to move from a quad to octo core. Just to say I have 8 CPUs in my machine that tear up some ass!!!

I kind of thought the movies were too simplistic, definitely tailored to management.  Animations were kind of cool, but data represented as moving spheres?
 
The IMC should bring about yet another massive improvement in Intel's cpu performance, just hope Nehelam (first time I have heard it actually pronounced, I always thought it was 2 syllables instead of 3) comes out sooner than later.

 
Well as spheres it kind of helps to realize each piece. Especially with SMT and how it would do 2 threads per core.
 
I agree. I kinda don't want to wait for Nehalem.

I have an old AMD 2400+ so I am waiting for Nehalem. I have been suffering for so long, it wont kill me to suffer a little longer and save up.  
 
Now I wonder if Nehalem will keep up with GPU's or make the GPU the bottleneck for games ?

 
The bottleneck is dependant on what resolution you use. Currently with the right CPU (high end X2/C2D/C2Q) Then the GPU will be a bottleneck unless you have a 3/4 GPU setup. Then again the game has to support it.
 
But I think Nehalem will make the GPU more of a bottleneck. Don't forget that it will also dynamically OC cores when the extra speed is needed. SO say you are doing a single threaded app and it needs the extra power. It will underclock the other 3 cores(on a quad) and OC the core being used. I wish they had more info about that feature as it looks interesting.

Yes that does sound neat and useful. AMD was suppose to come out with some sort of reverse hyper threading at some point. Maybe that is Itel's answer for reverse hyper threading.
 
I wouldn't know how fast cpu's act with fast gpu's anymore. But Im sure once Helmie comes out and the real next gen gpu's all of the Crysis fans will be happy.

 
This much is true. I prefer TF2 and HL2 but decided to go another round with Crysis. Since ATIs Cat 8.3 in Vista showed a jump of FPS of about 10-15 I upped a few settings. Plus Vistas SP1 is out and I installed it and the Crysis 1.2 patch. Right now I play at 1280x1024 with most settings on very high, a few on high and shadows on medium and I got some great FPS. And I run a HD2900Pro 1GB @ stock.
 
Nut Nehalem will probably be a big boost in PC performance per clock. I just hope that the octo core comes out soon. 8 cores, 1 CPU.

Isn't the dual-threading thing just Hyperthreading relabeled?  And if so, didn't that technology actually slow down some applications over same-CPU performance with the feature turned off?
 
I can understand at least one good idea behind hyperthreading: execute thread "b" while you wait for a memory fetch for thread "a".  But unless they designed it better this time around than they did last time, why would they put it in there again.