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P35-DS3L+E7200 can't go past 3Ghz, help !

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September 28, 2008 3:14:41 PM

hi ,
I've purchased my machine not long ago and can't go past 3Ghz when overclocking , it is now stable (according to orthos)
I have my FSB set at 316 multiplier at 9.5 vcore at 1.25, and no matter what I do I can't go past this point, even tried setting vcore at 1.4 ..
ram:FSB is 1:1
PSU is enermax 525W PRO, ram OCZ vista performance.

here's CPU-Z pics :
the cpuz vcore read is bad for me, 1.4 in the bios or 1.1 it reads all as 1.136.

and the memory
the timings are actually 5-6-6-18 don't know whats wrong with it..

any help would be appreciated !
September 28, 2008 4:07:31 PM

What are you temps and what cooling do you have in your case? Also, what other components do you have as a top end gpu and a few hard drives could be pushing your ps too hard.
September 28, 2008 4:10:48 PM

Update your Bios, and turn on Load line calibration in the bios if you have it.

I doubt you got that much V-droop.

Your timings are better then what you posted they should be, you could change them manually if you think it is an issue.

It could be a PSU issue as well.

What does it do BSOD, or just not boot at all?
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September 28, 2008 4:35:38 PM

I'm kinda scared to update bios... the cpu-z just reads the timings wrong.

about the PSU , its one of those uber quality psu's , with more the 40A on 12V
it really isn't the issue.

i've also tried lowering multiplier and upping FSP to 400 and its a no go.
it fails orthos stability test, but it posts.

how can I flash the bios the safest way possible? (and which version should I flash it to ? gigabyte board)
September 28, 2008 4:40:16 PM

Flash it to the latest, and read the mobo directions how to do it with a USB thumb drive.

You need to get the v-core up to go higher.

Look in Bios for load line calibration and enable it if its there.

Make sure you are saving your settings and not just exiting bios without saving the vcore changes.
September 28, 2008 5:25:52 PM

there isn't load line calibration there.
and I am saving.

I don't have a USB thumb drive, is it ok to do it through windows?
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September 28, 2008 5:33:28 PM

flashing bios in windows is a _bad_ idea. Do it only if there's no other way.
September 28, 2008 5:39:06 PM

did it on my previous board and only after I did it (and it worked) only after I read how dangerous windows flashing is... damn hate this ... ^^
I'll try to get my hands on a thumb drive,

will it help my OCing anyways ?
September 29, 2008 9:07:47 AM

wow... I've narrowed down the problem, apparently the vcore doesn't change when I change it in the bios ! i'm 3GHz on stock voltage now...

why won' t the vcore change ??
September 29, 2008 12:29:09 PM

Either your not saving it, or you need a bios update.
September 29, 2008 1:36:19 PM

there's a chance the cmos is bad and a bios update through Qflash might damage it ?
September 29, 2008 11:20:27 PM

bios update definitely!its simply bios error.i done bios flash though windows many times no problems so far. done it more then 10 times.of course the risk is higher but still doable.
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September 30, 2008 12:26:00 AM

Use QFlash. It's a lower risk than Windows.
September 30, 2008 7:45:42 AM

the risk in windows is instability right ? if something interrupts the proccess, so if my windows is stable there shouldn't be a problem ?
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September 30, 2008 1:10:01 PM

^Not really. Windows sometime just FAIL, even if system is 100% stable.
September 30, 2008 1:16:16 PM

^havent had any failure in windows.
September 30, 2008 4:03:23 PM

FAIL = dead ?
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September 30, 2008 6:21:29 PM

^ :lol:  Kind of. Just use QFlash it's not that hard, sure beats DOS. Just download the BIOS online. Format Flash Drive in FAT (MUST BE IN FAT) and copy the BIOS file to that. Then follow instructions on the manual on how to use Q-Flash.
October 10, 2008 4:48:08 AM

I agree with the others, flash it to the latest bios and try again. Read the instructions for using QFlash, as others have stated, it is real simple to use. I have the same set up as you (CPU ?& Mobo) and I'm at 333*9.5 (3.16Ghz with aftermarket HSF) stable at stock voltage.
October 10, 2008 10:34:11 AM

after I disconnected the PSU and reconnected I had voltage control ! :) 
managed to get to 3.4Ghz on 1.3075V.

but after a day , the windows won't boot with it (even though it was 100% stable the day before) , whats up with that ?
October 10, 2008 11:28:31 AM

damn... apparently the voltages are locked again
October 13, 2008 9:29:40 AM

They're right, flash your bios. If you've got the 45mm E7200 you should be able to run at 3GHz on stock voltages. Make sure your PCIE freq is fixed at 100. Loosen your ram timings and put the vdimm to whatever their rating is to keep them as far out of the equation as possible. Use speedfan and check your core temps - make sure you're at or below 60, and definitely not above 70; you could have heat issues, especially if you're on the stock HS.
October 13, 2008 12:08:08 PM

I have reach 3Ghz , and can't get past it since i'm on stock , and temps haven't been a problem, dmal, the issue is that the voltages are locked.
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October 13, 2008 2:00:42 PM

^Did you flash the BIOS?
October 18, 2008 12:33:32 PM

I cleared CMOS with a screwdriver , and the voltages were adjustable , and again during the night they were locked again.... whats wrong with this board.... I'm afraid flashing bios might fail duo to a damaged part in the board.
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October 19, 2008 9:53:07 PM

October 19, 2008 10:58:17 PM

crap :)  I'll contact gigabyte then