After doing tons of research, I have finally arrived at what I believe should be a pretty solid gaming computer. Yeah I could spend more cash for tip-top performance, but from what I've gathered this system should allow me to play games like Call of Duty 4 on high settings with no problems, and should give me the ability to do a little overclocking.
Looks good, can't really fault any of the listed components. Usually people choose a bad PSU since they lack knowledge on them, but that Silverstone is Tier 1, so nice choice there. Not a personal fan of the case, but if you like the looks and don't care about its insane weight/size then its a fine choice.
The case is the one part on that list that'd I'd most readily switch out. Any suggestions? Just looking for a case that's gonna give me room to work, won't cut me up, and is designed with cooling in mind.
PS Aside from that list of parts, do I need to buy any other little accessories like fans, cables, tools, etc? I am building from complete scratch.
The Antec 900 is very popular for a good reason - its a great case. Another great case to take a look at is the CoolerMaster RC-690 @ $80 Now it might seem less expensive but compare ths shipping charges. The Antec is Free Shipping and the RC-690 is not. CM RC-690 reviewAntec 900 review
Both cases have enough cooling to start out with. Its easy to add extra fans later if you think you need any more. Excellent choice of PSU. I was going to suggest the 650W model would be plenty (it would) but noticed the price between the 650 and 700 was only $15.
A little overclocking - the stock Intel HSF is fine. A little more overclocking? Time to think about an after market HSF. You might as well install one at the start so you don't have to re-handle the CPU. The CoolerMaster Hyper TX2 @ $22 is an excellent choice in mid-range coolers. THG Cooler Review For even more agressive overclocking the Tuniq Tower 120 and Zalman 9700 coolers work well.
Thanks for the replies and advice, I think I'm ready to order now...only things I'm changing from the original is:
Antec Nine Hundred Case
+ 1 Silverstone FM121 120mm case fan (side)
+ Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro (found some benchmarks and this seemed to be the best budget cooler)
Also, see your other thread, I put a few optional suggestions there.
Lastly, the Silverstone fan seems kind of loud at 40 dB. Silent PC Review favors noctua and scythe. the scythe use S-FDB bearings which make it more expensive, quieter, and much longer lasting. the difference between the loudest scythe (28 dB) and the silverstone (40 dB) means the silverstone will appear to sound more than twice as loud to the human ear. Here is a review of dBs.
If you keep reading that last link about dBs, you will see that you could actually use 10 of the scythe fans in your case (if you could find a way to mount them all ) and those TEN scythe fans would still be quieter than just ONE Silverstone. Not to say the Silverstone is a bad fan at all, just not a quiet fan.
If you do mount several fans in the case, the easiest way to adjust their speed is with one of these:
or (note: pictures are clickable links to newegg)
Message edited by HamRadio on 02-29-2008 at 12:26:19 AM
I would debate to yourself wether going with ATI for dx10.1 support would change your GPU purchase. Other then that have you considered moving to a 64bit OS?
As for your GPU brand avoid factory OCed everything. Asus offers great utilities for OCing and factory clocks out of the box along with the best fan controls to keep your card cool with 4 temp %speed settings. It also offers on demand OCing that allows you to expand the life of the card by not constantly keeping the card OCed. I own the Asus 8800GT single slot and I sit at 44-45c no higher under load compared to some of these other brands that are either at 100% fan speed or cooking your case at 80c.
Message edited by jerseygamer on 02-29-2008 at 12:25:02 AM
In here you can see all the memory limitation on the respective Windows OS. With note that all 32bit application will only recognized 3.5GB, no matter your OS (Vista or XP) -> same article on page 5.
But resonance has his point, IMO 0.5 missing on Vista/XP 32 is negligible since from my experience, unless you're running a super massive applications: multitasking etc, even the 2GB are not fully utilized (yet). True that the trend there will be more and more memory hungry applications in the future, but as of now 3.5GB or 4GB is still overkill By the time we had this applications around, all our current hardware will be obsolette I think.
All of this fact convince me not to go up to 64bit Vista. Especially no matter our system is, Vista will tax our system around 10-20%. I'm still content with my ol' 32 bit XP. Well, TBH I'm wanting to see DirectX 10 capabilities badly , but adding around 100-200$ for OS and the headache of backward compatibilities still hinder me ..
It isn't really the missing .5GB that matters, it's the 2GB application limit. Under 32bit Windows a single application only has access to 2GB of virtual address space.
When an application hits the 2GB limit you will get an immediate CTD. This has happened to me with multiple games (The Witcher, Crysis, Sins of a Solar Empire, Supreme Commander) and it isn't going to get any better.There are workarounds to let 32bit applications address up to ~3GB, but ultimately 32bit is a dead end and nobody wants to have to reinstall their OS after 6 months.
Yes I'm aware of this 2GB limitation .. Btw what is CTD? Sorry for noob question
And to my experience, I never had any problem (yet). I'm playing Crysis too, but witcher, Sins, Supreme, no I don't play those. I'm playing on 1440 (19" ) tho.
Well, I'm imposing that I'm not upgrading (yet) to Vista64 since I just want to save some money and tons of backward compatibilities issue (with existing 32 bit applications). If the time comes, and it will come, I will upgrade. Maybe early or late next year, with upgrading to Nehalem at the same time (hopefully my wife will allow me )
So my idea is, if we already had windows, better to use the existing one. BUt for new system, better to get straight to 64 ..
Message edited by antas on 02-29-2008 at 04:41:53 AM