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March 9, 2008 5:33:00 PM

Hi Everyone,

I was going to buy a 8800GT for $249CAD when I found this card:

BFG GeForce 8800 GTS OC nVidia GeForce 8800GTS Chipset (550MHz) Shader Clock (1300MHz) 640MB (1.6GHz) PCI-Express Graphic Card 96 Stream Processor Shader Model 4.0 2x Dual-Link DVI-I HDTV TV-Out Support HDCP DirectX 10 SLI-Ready Built for Windows Vista

http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd...

Do you think it is a good buy or am I safer to go with the 8800GT seen here?
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd...


Thanks,
D

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March 9, 2008 5:51:54 PM

fantastic advice! thank you.
The card I referenced above is 640MB but the one you reffered me to is 512MB ... could you please advise why you chose a card with less ram?

Is the 8800GTS a worse performing card compared to the 8800GT?
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March 9, 2008 6:01:13 PM

The G92 architecture is superior to the G80 used in the 640mb version. Yes, the 8800GT is a superior card to the GTS 640. The GTS 512mb is a better card than both the 640 and the GT. Sorry should have posted a link supporting that.

GT vs GTS 640 (both in blue):
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=707&model2=1057&chart=318

review of GT vs GTS 512:
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1237/2/page_2_test_system_setup_and_3dmark05/index.html
a b Î Nvidia
March 9, 2008 6:09:05 PM

Why do we use the slower clocked C2Ds instead of the faster clocked 9xx Pentium series? You CAN NOT look at only one part of a device and decide how it would perform. Just because X has more of Z then Y does, doesn't mean its going to perform better.

Why has the meghertz myth only been broken for CPUs? Why do people think that because X video card has more memory, it must be faster? Or X CPU has more L2 cache, it must be faster? Why do people believe that the raptor is faster just because it spins at 10,000RPMs? Or that its slower because it uses SATA instead of SATA300/SATA2? It seems that most people have figured out that CPU frequency isn't everything, but it also seems to stop there. Folks, the same reasons apply to everything else. Sure, the 8800GT has less ram. But for the card you linked, it also has more shaders, allowing it to do more work.[/rant]
March 9, 2008 6:10:59 PM

Thank you for your thoughts. I am very surprised to see the new GTS is not as good as its predessor the GT. Could someone advise why the GTS is not a great performer like the GT?
March 9, 2008 6:17:15 PM

I see whats going on here. You got your cards mixed up. The 8800GTS 640mb is the original GTS. The 8800GT and GTS 512mb are newer cards that use a new core (G92 compared to G80) and also have more stream processors. As 4745454b stated, memory isn't everything any more than clock speeds are.

The new performance scheme looks like this:
8800GTS 320 (G80)< 8800GTS 640(G80)< 8800GT 512(G92) < 8800GTS 512 (G92)
March 9, 2008 6:24:32 PM

Thanks for clarifying. The 8800GTS 512mb is a better card stock compared to the 8800GT 512mb, however, the 800GT is better performing than the GTS.

Could you please advise why someone would rather go to the 8800GTS over the 8800GT?
a b Î Nvidia
March 9, 2008 7:14:14 PM

it's faster... lol

and those old cards (8800GTS 320/640) are being phased out, not sure if they are even making them anymore
March 9, 2008 7:26:32 PM

ddasilva said:
Thanks for clarifying. The 8800GTS 512mb is a better card stock compared to the 8800GT 512mb, however, the 800GT is better performing than the GTS.

Could you please advise why someone would rather go to the 8800GTS over the 8800GT?


You're still confusing the OLD 8800GTS 640MB with the NEW 8800GTS 512MB.

The 8800GTS 640MB has the OLD core (G80)

The 8800GTS 512MB has the NEW core (G92)


The NEW 8800GTS 512MB will outperform the NEW 8800GT 512MB, which in turn will outperform the OLD 8800GTS 640MB.

Hope this clarifies things.
March 9, 2008 7:27:46 PM

The 8800GTS 320 and 640 came first, aka g80, then came the 8800GT 512 and then the 8800GTS512 aka g92. The g80 (8800GTS 320/640) are older, and inferior products. Its confusing, blame nVidia for that
a b Î Nvidia
March 9, 2008 7:55:51 PM

Wow, nVidia really needs to revise their naming scheme. If the site lists specs, make sure it says G92 or 65nm to ensure it is the faster card.

Ram in video cards is second to the chip. Card makers love to put lots of ram in bad cards just to try to make them look better.
March 9, 2008 8:28:38 PM

Thanks for your post everyone. I was originally going to purchase a 8800GT, however, it sounds like a 8800GTS is the way to go. Is there another card I should consider?
March 9, 2008 8:32:20 PM

Only the GTX or the ATI 3870x2 is better, as long as were talking 8800GTS 512 G92
March 9, 2008 8:33:05 PM

Yes- we are talking about the GTS 512 G92.
March 9, 2008 8:36:36 PM

I think youll like it alot, just remember to make sure your power supply is good enough, and watch those temps
March 9, 2008 8:39:52 PM

Your link doesnt work
March 9, 2008 8:41:22 PM

Fixed. Thanks for advising me
March 9, 2008 9:21:31 PM

Great card , good price
March 9, 2008 9:58:23 PM

ddasilva said:
Thanks for your post everyone. I was originally going to purchase a 8800GT, however, it sounds like a 8800GTS is the way to go. Is there another card I should consider?

I hope you're talking about the 512MB 8800GTS. You make it sound like you are going to buy the 640MB GTS that you listed in the OP, which as many have pointed out here would be a mistake.
March 9, 2008 10:34:00 PM

Yes, that is a G92 version from a good company. Only reason I linked it ;) 
March 9, 2008 10:35:57 PM

Lost- excellent card...

I cannot find the same card for under $300. I wonder why Tigerdirect is the only retailer with this deal
March 9, 2008 11:31:14 PM

Any canadian retailers?
March 9, 2008 11:41:49 PM

Tiger direct is Canada retailer
March 9, 2008 11:43:04 PM

I noticed, however, when you order from tigerdirect.ca they jack the price by $30. Its a rip when you consider the CAD dollar is par with USD
March 9, 2008 11:57:19 PM

NCIX I believe is also
April 22, 2008 7:18:07 AM

8800GT and GTS (G92) are the only cards to even consider right now. I'm running a QX9650-powered high end setup, and I'm using a single 8800GT. At the moment, I'm not particularly willing to go for the 9800GTX or GX2, or even the 8800GTX as each has its disadvantages. I'd rather keep my 8800GT and wait for the new architecture (god only knows when that's coming).
April 22, 2008 9:26:02 AM

TigerDirect (as stated above)
DirectCanada (Vancouver)
NCIX (Also Vancouver)

All deal with Canada. I highly recommend NCIX, great service especially if get a dud component and need to RMA.

Also Highly recommend the G92 8800gts 512mb pci-e 2.0. It's a great card. I run it with my OC Q6600 and the combo get's me a 13500 3DMark06 Score running on Windows Vista 64bit. Possibly more if i decide to tweak the cards OC a little. It's currently running a conservative OC.
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