The 9800GX2 is going to be better than the 9800GTX right?

i am rather confused atm, because a while back i heard that the 9800gx2 was basically 2 8800gts 512mb cores glued together, and the GTX was actually new architecture. So would not the GTX be better? and if not, then why dont they wait slightly longer to release the 9800GX2 with the updated architecture?

Not really sure, probably because they needed something that could compete with the 3870X2.

You got that part right.....

Going here http://www.unihw.com/html/24/n-124.html it shows the GTX OCing to 850. Now thats not too bad, with the Mem at 2.16 Ghz

ahh ic that makes sense, thanks for the response

I feel like we need some milking smilies to go along with that. Milk Milk.

Yeah you know why that is? They want to sucker as many people as possible into buying into the quad GPU (milk milk) but in order to do that they have to keep the drivers top secret so no one can find out that quad GPUs will hit the 3rd failure fan. FAIL. milk milk.

Instead of beating a dead horse I think it should be milking a dead cow.

Best strategies, so as not to get milked...

a) Wait till the release of of the 9800GX2 which will make the prices of the GTS's, GTX's and Ultras plummet... then buy two cheaper cards (or just one, if you already have one), run 'em in SLI... which will be faster and cheaper than the GX2

b) buy a PS3 for 400 dollars which will tide you over until a REAL card comes out... not a crappy variation of an existing product

Heres one : http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Sh [...] ku=7686551 And its ONLY $812.09!!!!!!! What a deeeal

Damn for that price of one 8800Ultra I can buy two 8800GTX's! The 8800Ultra was just a hand that slapped ATI in the face, it was more about tactics than it was a newer better card. I bought a 8800GTX and overclocked it way past an Ultra in my signature, GPU core @ 651MHz compared to the Ultra's 621MHz. The 8800Ultra is a big JOKE, and I am an Nvidia fanboy.

I really think ATI might have a good chance at being on top with their upcoming 4870X2, I'll give credit where its do reguardless of me being an Nvidia fanboy. It seems ATI is climbing out of that nasty hole they were in, and now their coming out with great graphics cards in their X2 line and excellent dual GPU single PCB design unlike Nvidia's not so good design.

Here are some benchmarks for the 9800GTX

Source (warning, loads very slowly): http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/gra [...] 43353.html

Test machine:
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800
Gigabyte X38-DQ6
DDR2-1066 1024MB x 2(5-5-5-15)
Vista
nVidia ForceWare 174.40 For Vista (these are recently released beta drivers)

nVidida recently released beta drivers which improves the performance of the 9800GTX
3dmark scores: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] ostcount=1

I'm getting an X2, the GX2 is crap...

check out these early benchmarks

http://lly316.blogspot.com/2008/03 [...] 70-x2.html

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/ [...] index.html

I don't think the 9800GX2 is going to beat two 8800GTS's in SLI, at least ATI's 3870X2 always outperformed it's own counterpart, two 3870's in Crossfire. ATI I commend you for not making a double cheeseburger with two GPU's, respect has been earned. ATi's 4870X2 X2 (two 4870X2's) will be great competition against two 9800GTX's in SLI. Mmmm.....

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Simply amazing

Good find!
That's the 8800 Ultra. Not even a 9800 Card! And only $812?? Yup, what a deal!

This is how I see it, Nvidia came out with the gtx and ultra at high prices and people bought them. Few bought Ati because they were inferior.
Ati then did the smart thing, if you can't beat them in performance, beat them in price. They then came out with cards that are just below performance, but alot better price wise. Example, 3850 and 3870.
The new competition, 3870x2 and 9800gx2, same thing. Ati lost performance wise, but price wise, they are winning.
Also, people like 'new' technology, dual cores, 2 gpu cores on 1 pcb, not a past failed card coming back again. They failed with the 7950g(something), why they think this one will succeed, they alone know.
I am happy for nvidia, they got their internal sli to work and they wanted to show everyone.
Nvidia, can't get off their high horse and still thinks that because it is a new card, with new numbers written on it and has minimal gain, people will buy it at that price tag.
I am not a fan of either camp as I go for the price/performance card. atm it is the 8800gt as the 3870x2 is a little out of my reach.
But I must say, the 4800 series looks good.
As always, competition is good and I can't wait to see what the prices would be like when Intel gets into the mix.