The 9800GX2 is going to be better than the 9800GTX right?

maverick7

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i am rather confused atm, because a while back i heard that the 9800gx2 was basically 2 8800gts 512mb cores glued together, and the GTX was actually new architecture. So would not the GTX be better? and if not, then why dont they wait slightly longer to release the 9800GX2 with the updated architecture?
 

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Not really sure, probably because they needed something that could compete with the 3870X2.
 

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I think Nvidia crapped their pants when they saw ATI put out a product that could compete and surpass what they had out at the time, so they did whatever they could to compete...slap two cards together. Oh, and try and deceive everyone into thinking that the 9xxx series of cards are a completely new generation with new tech. Some will fall for it. We obviously won't though :sol:
 

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Do you have any idea how much money NVidia spent developing the G80 architecture, $400 million dollars! NVidia must make a profit on this before making a whole new architecture or NVidia would go out of bussiness. The fact is though that each generation becomes more costly to developing a new architecture. This is why Nvidia has to milk as much existing architecture before making a new one. If I was CEO of Nvidia I would do the same thing, milk milk.

On another note Nvidia will launch its Geforce 9800GX2 on the 18th of March and on the same day it will ship the Quad-SLI driver, it seems that the quad SLI drivers are ready according to Fudzilla.
 

maverick7

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ahh ic that makes sense, thanks for the response
 

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As long as they go ATI's route with it or even better 2 GPUs on 1 die.
 

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Yeah you know why that is? They want to sucker as many people as possible into buying into the quad GPU (milk milk) but in order to do that they have to keep the drivers top secret so no one can find out that quad GPUs will hit the 3rd failure fan. FAIL. milk milk.

Instead of beating a dead horse I think it should be milking a dead cow.
 

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:lol:

I just found that very funny! Hey SpinachEater, your avatar is from S.C.I.E.N.C.E by Incubus, right? ;)

Great band!
 

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Best strategies, so as not to get milked...

a) Wait till the release of of the 9800GX2 which will make the prices of the GTS's, GTX's and Ultras plummet... then buy two cheaper cards (or just one, if you already have one), run 'em in SLI... which will be faster and cheaper than the GX2

b) buy a PS3 for 400 dollars which will tide you over until a REAL card comes out... not a crappy variation of an existing product
 

kpo6969

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Show us a link where you can even buy an Ultra?
GTX's can be had for $360 already.
 

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Damn for that price of one 8800Ultra I can buy two 8800GTX's! The 8800Ultra was just a hand that slapped ATI in the face, it was more about tactics than it was a newer better card. I bought a 8800GTX and overclocked it way past an Ultra in my signature, GPU core @ 651MHz compared to the Ultra's 621MHz. The 8800Ultra is a big JOKE, and I am an Nvidia fanboy.

I really think ATI might have a good chance at being on top with their upcoming 4870X2, I'll give credit where its do reguardless of me being an Nvidia fanboy. It seems ATI is climbing out of that nasty hole they were in, and now their coming out with great graphics cards in their X2 line and excellent dual GPU single PCB design unlike Nvidia's not so good design.
 

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Of Course that Ultra is a joke!Card is insane expensive and not worth a money:S

Maybe AMD is doomed but ATI can keep up with nVIDIA even now.When 9xxx series came 4xxx will realiese too and ATI will have lead on his side 100% :)
 

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If these a true benchmarks, then I'm not suprised one bit. My overclocked 8800GTX performs better than an 8800Ultra @ 651MHz GPU core, the reason why the 9800GTX doesn't scale as high is because of the missing ROPs. The 8800GTX has 24 ROPs and the 9800GTX has only 16 ROPs, If the 9800GTX had the full ROPs then only would it be as amazing as the first 8800GT.
 

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I don't think the 9800GX2 is going to beat two 8800GTS's in SLI, at least ATI's 3870X2 always outperformed it's own counterpart, two 3870's in Crossfire. ATI I commend you for not making a double cheeseburger with two GPU's, respect has been earned. ATi's 4870X2 X2 (two 4870X2's) will be great competition against two 9800GTX's in SLI. Mmmm.....
 

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There we have it!!! The Milk Icon is born.