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i am rather confused atm, because a while back i heard that the 9800gx2 was basically 2 8800gts 512mb cores glued together, and the GTX was actually new architecture. So would not the GTX be better? and if not, then why dont they wait slightly longer to release the 9800GX2 with the updated architecture?

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Unfortunately no, the GTX will not be faster since it's the same speed as the 8800GTS 512MB.  
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7475.html
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I'm waiting for the 4800s myself :bounce:

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Maverick7 wrote :

and if not, then why dont they wait slightly longer to release the 9800GX2 with the updated architecture?


 
Not really sure, probably because they needed something that could compete with the 3870X2.

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Hmm well that is stupid then... I guess ill have to wait to decide if i should upgrade from my 8800gts 512mb

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Maverick7 wrote :

Hmm well that is stupid then...


You got that part right..... :heink:

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I think Nvidia crapped their pants when they saw ATI put out a product that could compete and surpass what they had out at the time, so they did whatever they could to compete...slap two cards together.  Oh, and try and deceive everyone into thinking that the 9xxx series of cards are a completely new generation with new tech.  Some will fall for it.  We obviously won't though :sol:

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Going here http://www.unihw.com/html/24/n-124.html it shows the GTX OCing to 850. Now thats not too bad, with the Mem at 2.16 Ghz


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Maverick7 wrote :

i am rather confused atm, because a while back i heard that the 9800gx2 was basically 2 8800gts 512mb cores glued together, and the GTX was actually new architecture. So would not the GTX be better? and if not, then why dont they wait slightly longer to release the 9800GX2 with the updated architecture?


 
Do you have any idea how much money NVidia spent developing the G80 architecture, $400 million dollars! NVidia must make a profit on this before making a whole new architecture or NVidia would go out of bussiness. The fact is though that each generation becomes more costly to developing a new architecture. This is why Nvidia has to milk as much existing architecture before making a new one. If I was CEO of Nvidia I would do the same thing, milk milk.
 
On another note Nvidia will launch its Geforce 9800GX2 on the 18th of March and on the same day it will ship the Quad-SLI driver, it seems that the quad SLI drivers are ready according to Fudzilla.

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systemlord wrote :

Do you have any idea how much money NVidia spent developing the G80 architecture, $400 million dollars! NVidia must make a profit on this before making a whole new architecture or NVidia would go out of bussiness. The fact is though that each generation becomes more costly to developing a new architecture. This is why Nvidia has to milk as much existing architecture before making a new one. If I was CEO of Nvidia I would do the same thing, milk milk.
 
On another note Nvidia will launch its Geforce 9800GX2 on the 18th of March and on the same day it will ship the Quad-SLI driver, it seems that the quad SLI drivers are ready according to Fudzilla.


 
ahh ic that makes sense, thanks for the response

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Maverick7 wrote :

ahh ic that makes sense, thanks for the response


 
I am praying that multi GPU cards are the future, with monsters like Crysis.


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systemlord wrote :

If I was CEO of Nvidia I would do the same thing, milk milk.
 


 
 
I feel like we need some milking smilies to go along with that.  Milk Milk.  

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systemlord wrote :

I am praying that multi GPU cards are the future, with monsters like Crysis.


 
As long as they go ATI's route with it or even better 2 GPUs on 1 die.

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systemlord wrote :


On another note Nvidia will launch its Geforce 9800GX2 on the 18th of March and on the same day it will ship the Quad-SLI driver, it seems that the quad SLI drivers are ready according to Fudzilla.


 
 
Yeah you know why that is?  They want to sucker as many people as possible into buying into the quad GPU (milk milk)  but in order to do that they have to keep the drivers top secret so no one can find out that quad GPUs will hit the 3rd failure fan.  FAIL.  milk milk.  
 
Instead of beating a dead horse I think it should be milking a dead cow.

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Instead of beating a dead horse I think it should be milking a dead cow.


 :lol:  
 
I just found that very funny!  Hey SpinachEater, your avatar is from S.C.I.E.N.C.E by Incubus, right? ;)
 
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Best strategies, so as not to get milked...
 
a) Wait till the release of of the 9800GX2 which will make the prices of the GTS's, GTX's and  Ultras plummet... then buy two cheaper cards (or just one, if you already have one), run 'em in SLI...  which will  be  faster and cheaper than the GX2  
 
b) buy a PS3 for 400 dollars which will tide you over until a REAL card comes out... not a crappy variation of an existing product

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Best strategies, so as not to get milked...
 
a) Wait till the release of of the 9800GX2 which will make the prices of the GTS's, GTX's and  Ultras plummet... then buy two cheaper cards (or just one, if you already have one), run 'em in SLI...  which will  be  faster and cheaper than the GX2  
 
b) buy a PS3 for 400 dollars which will tide you over until a REAL card comes out... not a crappy variation of an existing product


Show us a link where you can even buy an Ultra?
GTX's can be had for $360 already.


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Heres one : http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Sh [...] ku=7686551   And its ONLY $812.09!!!!!!! What a deeeal


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OMG, add $45 for one more year of warranty!


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jaydeejohn wrote :

Heres one : http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Sh [...] ku=7686551   And its ONLY $812.09!!!!!!! What a deeeal


 
Damn for that price of one 8800Ultra I can buy two 8800GTX's! The 8800Ultra was just a hand that slapped ATI in the face, it was more about tactics than it was a newer better card. I bought a 8800GTX and overclocked it way past an Ultra in my signature,  GPU core @ 651MHz compared to the Ultra's 621MHz. The 8800Ultra is a big JOKE, and I am an Nvidia fanboy.  
 
I really think ATI might have a good chance at being on top with their upcoming 4870X2, I'll give credit where its do reguardless of me being an Nvidia fanboy. It seems ATI is climbing out of that nasty hole they were in, and now their coming out with great graphics cards in their X2 line and excellent dual GPU single PCB design unlike Nvidia's not so good design.


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