Hey, all Right now am usein a Intel Celeron 420 and it is ok on speed but i want a dual. i had a quad-core but i sold it because i did not need. so i am debateing bewteen Pentium D 920 or E4300. Now the reason i am asking this is because. I need some help on which is better and why. i know the e4300 has new tech on it. but what differnce will i see in the 2. like watching movies and playing games. now the Pentium D 920 has Intel Virtualization Technology. and the e4300 what differnce will i have with that not on the E4300. because i will keep it for a few months and then get a quad core Q9300 or Q9XXX series. so i just need the help bewteen the 2.


Thanks your time

The e4300 at 1.8Ghz will be comparable to a Pentium D at 3.6Ghz.

Since the Pentium D 320 is 2.8Ghz, the e4300 will be quite a bit faster.

The e4300 also runs cooler, and overclocks better.

So even though it is a bit more expensive (I think), I would say it is worth it.

e4300 will definately out perform PD920 when overclocked, should hit 3.0ghz+ easily. PD920 runs too hot when overclocked and wastes so much power.
But just get a e2xxx series instead of e4300 or PD920. Then OC it to ~3.0ghz. The only intel CPU I would consider buying atm are e2xxx , high e6xxx (if e8xxx out of stock), e8xxx, q6600, q9450 or that xeon e8400 chip (dunno the exact code).

There are two questions here, performance and price. Performance wise the 4300 is much faster. Play around with this to see how much faster.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=440

The next issue is price, seeing as you want to go quad again in a few months. Newegg currently has neither of these CPUs for sale. It does have the 935 available for ~$125. (its also currently out of stock) It also sells the 4500 for $115. Seeing as the 4500 would be faster then the 935, and cheaper to, I don't see how you could even consider getting the P4D chip.

i am tradeing a copy of xp for this cpu. because it is collecting dust and my buddy needs a copy and i need a cpu. the PD would be for a few moths as well as th e4300 then i am getting a quad in the next few months.

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So you have an extra copy of XP, and you are trading it for (i assume) the 920. I thought you were trying to decide between two chips. The 920 will be faster then your current 420, is it worth it to you to loose a copy of XP?

Ill give ya a 3700 AMD for a copy...heheh

i can trump that! x2 4200 s939

you get minor performance hit (half the cache, but it's still more than your celeron) and you save about $30-50. especially if you are upgrading, it's a waste to get E4000 series. get E2000 series.

my buddy has a pd 920 and a e4300 he is letting my choose. but see the pd 920 has Intel Virtualization Technology which the e4300 lack. and i was wondering i will see a differnce if i am watching a movie. vs the e4300 which does not have it. but like i said it will onyl be used for a few months at most.

yes i can choose bewteen the pd 920 and the e4300

Take the 4300, hands down. And Ill throw in a 1.5Ghz P4 with that 3700

Intel Virtualization Technology is good for movies or no? because see i watch movies on my computer and i want to make sure my movies will be clear like my quad Q6600 was

Itll handle it, but getting a newer gpu with full 264 playback on the card takes all the pull from the cpu.

Actually all Intel C2D CPUS have this(quote from Intel.com):

Now VT(Virtualization Technology) is mainly for servers.

I say get the E4300 as it will perform much better overall in media and game. OC it and when the time comes get a nice Q9XXX series and you done.

Doesn't the X1950 series have AVIVO? My X850XT does and that does the same sorta thing if I remember and I think that the X1K series had it for HD support....

And after a bit of searching here ya go:

http://ati.amd.com/products/radeon [...] index.html

Directly from ATI's website. The Avivo does pull from the CPU for video/HD playback. So his GPU should do fine, just get the E4300.

now how far can i oc/ed this thing i wanna hit like a fsb of 1066 or 1333 but i dont see the 1333 i have a zalman 9500

I wasnt referring to avivo, but yes, it does, unlike nVidia, which you have to pay for. But avivo doesn thave the chip to offload it. Thats what I was refering to

Well take this into account. You can easily get it to 3GHz. I have a Zalman CPNS9500 on a Pentium 4 EE 3.4GHz and it keeps it at 32c idle, 45-50c under load. And that thing can run wayyyy hotter than the E4300. If you have the right board a 1333FSB is easy even for a E4300.

The E4300 has a 9x multi, same as a Q6600, so just setting the bus to 333(1333) would get you to 3GHz and probably the same if not lower temps than a Q6600. Only difference is it has a smaller cache and is a dual.

Just trust us and get it, OC to 3GHz and you will be happy until you get your Q9XXX.

Um my X850XT has a Avivo chip on it. I remember seeing it on the card. But You are right that the newer ones will do a better job. But once he gets the quad it wont matter. My Q6600 never goes above 10% when watching any type of video.