http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/0 [...] om_at_idf/
 

 
 
Sorry if someone already posted about this, but does anyone know anymore about this?
 
Whats up with this ?
 

It's just intel's new itanium chip...
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tukwila_(processor)

Basically according to Intel its a giant can of whoop ass.
 
I can't wait to see though cuz if it is it will be interesting to see how fast AMD gets something out to compete with it.

The two billion transistor count is a bit misleading if you're looking at that as a way of measuring its processing power since most of those transistors are probably part of that massive chunk of cache in the thing.

 
Well the reference to giant was due to size but if what Intel states is true it will be a can of whoop ass. I need to find the details but I read a report on their quickpath and the bandwidth available to it. It was insane.
 
But as I said I can't wait to see it in action just to see AMD's response.

How does this compare to Nahelem ? How much cache will it have. I know desktops and server cpu's differer , just wondering.

From what I remember when Intel compared QPI to Hypertransport, they were comparing it to HT2.0.  Just means AMD will need to release chips that run HT3.0 at full speed, and probably need to come out with a faster version for AM3.

Well. My transmission going out in my car will force me to wait until Helmmie comes out.. So then I can render my standard def videos faster than real time! If I had one of the current quads I probably could ?
 
I read a post about Nahelem earlier and someone had cpuz pics I think it showed cache. That could have been a fake though.

 
This is pretty much true.
 

 

 
This is still a good step in the right direction IMO for Intel.  
 

I forget what exactly I read and where... but it said something to the effect of in 1950 there were 500 million transistors in the WORLD.  
 
Now we're packing 4 times that amount into one CPU. Pretty amazing times we live in.

It's mostly cache .. so the huge transistor count isn't a great leap forward in technology.
 
The design is old hat.
 
It's a clinker.
 
When software engineering (if ever) catches up and we actually have decent multithreaded code running ...
 
Alas ... the world doesn't seem to have enough smart people employed in the area.
 
Maybe we need to market programming as the profession for the world's smartest people ...
 
After all ... the hardware can't do much without them.
 
 

 
Yeah, I think those were contact transistors which basically were a germanium rock with wires soldered to it  I'd like to see Intel put 2 billion of those puppies in a building, let alone a chip.

^^
 
lets see you try and program for multi thread, its more of a limitation of the language than the programmer tbh...  ive got some training in Multi-threaded Java programming, but i hate the language. prefer C+.

Yeh the Itanium2 is crazy nuts. I think several hundred are used in one of NASA's supercomputer....

Ah yes, Itanium.
They are also known as "the money pit", and Itanic.
Intel has spent about $100billion on that puppy over the last ten years.
Since it first went on sale about 6 years ago, they have sold thousands.
 It is intended as an HPC server chip. Problem is, it's more efficient to go with multiple clusters, with IBM, opteron, and even xeon chips.
I'm sure that AMD will be happy to see Intel waste more $ and research on it.

 
IDK. That may change with this chip. If it performs better tand cost less than a certain amount of clusters then it would be to the benefit of the buyer.
 
I of course think that tera-scale would be better but hey I don't control them.

 
Oh come on... I wasn't implying they were same size of transistor.

The iceberg hit it so many times and it refuses to sink ... so ... ???
 
Intel probably use the entire project as a means to avoid paying tax.
 
That is possibly the entire reason for it's existence.
 
On that basis alone it could be a fantastic success !!
 
I actually have seem an Itanium ... so they do exist.
 
A guy was walking out of a shop with one ... in a wheelbarrow. Two mad scientists with bald heads and facial ticks were at his side ... whispering some very long sentences in his ears.
 
He was unable to comprehend.