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9800GTX or 9800GX2

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March 19, 2008 1:00:13 PM

Its hard to deny the GX2 is the most powerful graphics card to date.But would you get the 9800GTX for lower price or would you still trade in for the king of 3D graphics?

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March 19, 2008 1:11:12 PM

I rather pay more to get more performance.

But if I was on a tighter budget, I'll choose the cheaper version. But right now I'll choose the GX2 over than the GTX.
March 19, 2008 1:35:55 PM

Neither card makes me want to upgrade; I'll keep my overclocked 8800GTX until Nvidia releases a real upgrade.
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March 19, 2008 1:51:17 PM

There is no 9800GTX...yet. Cannot make this comparison until we know more about the 9800GTX.
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March 19, 2008 1:56:48 PM

Waspy said:
There is no 9800GTX...yet. Cannot make this comparison until we know more about the 9800GTX.

Exactly right.

Besides the GX2 is just for Nvidia to say they have the highest performing single card. (2) 8800GTS 512's in SLI would beat the thing hands down and cost much less doing it.

The rumors for the GTX don't look that impressive, but we need proof of this.
March 19, 2008 2:14:23 PM

I'm still wondering if the 9800GX2 will work in a P35 mobo or any single PCI-E 16x mobo for that matter. Like Jay said, two 8800gts are less, so if you have an SLI motherboard I don't know why you would consider it unless you're planning on throwing $1200-1400 into your graphics cards for Quad-SLI.
a c 147 U Graphics card
March 19, 2008 2:23:45 PM

San Pedro said:
I'm still wondering if the 9800GX2 will work in a P35 mobo or any single PCI-E 16x mobo for that matter.
Yes it should. That is one of the reasons why they had the 7950GX2 so you could have SLI without an SLI mobo.
March 19, 2008 3:51:18 PM

Exactly but rumors before GX2 was realised was same like GTX so dont look that way...
I think that 9800GTX will be best bang for the buck if price is true (349$)!


Ultra porformance for much less money thats sond good still wee need proof :sol: 
a c 147 U Graphics card
March 19, 2008 6:40:37 PM

Undying89 said:
Exactly but rumors before GX2 was realised was same like GTX so dont look that way...
I think that 9800GTX will be best bang for the buck if price is true (349$)!

Unless it is just an OCed GTS. Then it's pointless.
March 19, 2008 7:59:18 PM

Heyyou27 said:
Neither card makes me want to upgrade; I'll keep my overclocked 8800GTX until Nvidia releases a real upgrade.


If 9800gx2 was $450 it would be a real upgrade, its 60% faster than a Gtx in alot of popular games, but its price and Sli's brillant performance is killing it...

Nvidia have shot themselves in the foot with their Sli performance, they have made it too good lol and all single cards will have a mammoth task now trying to compete...

Like the much talked about Gt200 will have a hard time beating the 9800gx2, at best being 20% faster imo, what are people going to say then?
March 19, 2008 10:12:25 PM

Just get two of those in one card and SLI again ...

LOL
a b U Graphics card
March 19, 2008 11:03:57 PM

I think the difference is about 3-7% clock for clock, so it could be a bit faster
March 19, 2008 11:19:32 PM

How much do you think 20% faster?
a b U Graphics card
March 19, 2008 11:30:07 PM

Equal to or a bit faster
March 19, 2008 11:30:11 PM

well 9800gtx reviewed in chinese website about a week ago.it have performance gain over 8800 ultra but few games require alot of memory with AA the ultra with 786mb+384bit mem bus still will out run the gtx and gx2.check out my other thread i have a link there.
a b U Graphics card
March 19, 2008 11:36:02 PM

Link? And also, with more memory, the GTX will do fine, meaning that maybe a 1Gig GTX maybe coming, for higher res and or AA and AF. Theres a tweak nVidia is using on the 9xxx cards that elimanates the need for a wider bus. Compressing the data, but it still needs more Ram in some games/settings
March 19, 2008 11:43:43 PM

wait get you the link!!!!
March 19, 2008 11:52:09 PM

any thought?

At 1920x1200 call of jaurez,half life 2,unreal tournament and world in conflict the ultra out run the 9800GTX and thats with no AA on.imagine with 4xAA which require alot of graphics memory to cache the render data,the 9800GTX will be to the GROUND!!!

i guess the old 8800GTX with high overclock will also beat that in ultra high resolution with high AA on.

Personaly Im not too optimistic about the new 9800GTX but if the romoured price is true than it will beat the 8800gtx in price/performance ratio when it was launch or even today.
a b U Graphics card
March 20, 2008 12:03:16 AM

I think that if they come out with 1 GHz vram on the card, it should outperform the older 8xxx series, as thats the only thing thats holding them back at this point. The 320/384 bus, like I said, is mostly taken care of by them compressing data for the buffer. At higher clocks, higher ram, and other tweaks, itll beat the ltra in low/med res easily, and in high res with more vram IMHO. Look for about a 10% increase
March 20, 2008 12:05:07 AM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
I think that if they come out with 1 GHz vram on the card, it should outperform the older 8xxx series, as thats the only thing thats holding them back at this point. The 320/384 bus, like I said, is mostly taken care of by them compressing data for the buffer. At higher clocks, higher ram, and other tweaks, itll beat the ltra in low/med res easily, and in high res with more vram IMHO


The specs are not confirmed?

a b U Graphics card
March 20, 2008 12:07:50 AM

Yes, but there may need to be different versions, as like whats been pointed out, at high res, or higher settings, depending on game, it falls behind, just like the X2
March 20, 2008 12:09:44 AM

well on that website they have the standard reference card if you have looked.take a look if you havent.since all the graphics card are made in china.so the chinese got to test it first.i mean on that website the review come out on the same day 13th of March.
a b U Graphics card
March 20, 2008 12:11:00 AM

Its reputable, and as seen with the GTX2 was right on
March 20, 2008 12:12:16 AM

Nvidia got something in their bag.256bit for high end?it cant be.think!why would a high end go backward.like the 9600GT it went from 128bit to 256bit thats going forward!

and i guess there will be a 1GB version of the 9800gtx somewhere in time.i expect Gainward to come out first as they always do Golden Sample version of every card with double memory than the reference card.
March 20, 2008 12:13:01 AM

iluvgillgill said:
well on that website they have the standard reference card if you have looked.take a look if you havent.since all the graphics card are made in china.so the chinese got to test it first.i mean on that website the review come out on the same day 13th of March.


Yeah...

But they also had early reviews of the Gx2 and it wasnt as impressive as it is now...

a b U Graphics card
March 20, 2008 12:15:10 AM

Well, lets suppose that the newest (G200 or whatever) comes out. If they once again go with a wider bus, plus the compression theyre already using, and enuff oomph to take advantage of all that, yes theyll certainly have something up thier sleeves
March 20, 2008 12:16:54 AM

well but you have a general idea right?driver issue can be solved but when come to AA@high res you cant deny the fact that higher bandwidth and larger vram will be the limiting factor.because clearly the G92 is more effective and efficient at rendering graphics and performance per watt.

the gx2 still the king of graphics card today.until gt200 come out whenever that is lol
a b U Graphics card
March 20, 2008 12:16:54 AM

dos1986 said:
Yeah...

But they also had early reviews of the Gx2 and it wasnt as impressive as it is now...
Check the drivers used at the time. In some games it was as it is now, just others mysteriously got alot better
March 20, 2008 12:19:09 AM

but in 3dmarks they all are the same.3dmarks tells you what the card is made of.
March 20, 2008 12:20:02 AM

any of you got msn?fancy a chat on that?rather than here.its kind of "SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW" with forum
March 20, 2008 12:25:18 AM

i had a general idea about the new ATI 4xxx series,as with the current 3870x2 flagship,theoratically its the most powerful card out there even got more fillrate power(1GFLOP) then the new 9800gx2 (somewhere in the region of 800-900TFLOP if i remember correctly) but maybe the architecture of the ATI GPU it was never as good in game when compare to Nvidia
March 20, 2008 12:50:25 AM

iluvgillgill said:
well but you have a general idea right?driver issue can be solved but when come to AA@high res you cant deny the fact that higher bandwidth and larger vram will be the limiting factor.because clearly the G92 is more effective and efficient at rendering graphics and performance per watt.

the gx2 still the king of graphics card today.until gt200 come out whenever that is lol


The gt200 is a single card right?

Its going to have to be a monster to beat the 9800gx2 imo...

One 9800 GX2 costing $599 is faster than 2 8800GTX's costing $1200 when they came out.

March 20, 2008 12:58:45 AM

isnt the 9800GX2 699?
March 20, 2008 1:13:48 AM

what card do you have now?i have a 8800gts 512mb as most do.
March 20, 2008 1:16:44 AM

in uk here they sell it for USD811 roughly!fukin bastards
March 20, 2008 1:17:11 AM

7600gt :D 

Sold my 8800gtx 3 weeks ago for €290..

Took a gamble and waiting for it to pay off now, can get a 9800gx2 for €450...

Looking at the 9800gx2 hard, but have to wait for the 9800gtx performance/price first before buying...
March 20, 2008 1:19:38 AM

how can you get 9800gx2 for 450?is that in usd or gbp?
March 20, 2008 1:27:43 AM

dos1986 said:
Overclockers have it for £352.49/$697

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX...

Euro is very strong now, doesnt work out that bad for me...


that is like a dodgy version isnt it?OcUK version?i mean that picture is a picture of a evga 9800gx2.how much is delivery?i live in uk as well!:) 
March 20, 2008 1:30:34 AM

dos1986 said:
If 9800gx2 was $450 it would be a real upgrade, its 60% faster than a Gtx in alot of popular games, but its price and Sli's brillant performance is killing it...

Nvidia have shot themselves in the foot with their Sli performance, they have made it too good lol and all single cards will have a mammoth task now trying to compete...

Like the much talked about Gt200 will have a hard time beating the 9800gx2, at best being 20% faster imo, what are people going to say then?

There were few cases where the 9800GX2 was 60% faster than the 8800Ultra. There were even cases where the 8800Ultra was considerably faster than the 9800GX2 thanks to the extra 256MBs of memory.
March 20, 2008 1:32:07 AM

Nah they are good, I bought a 7900gt a while back and it was a PNY card...

That probably is a evga 9800gx2, with Ocuk brand sticker somewhere...
March 20, 2008 1:34:51 AM

how much they charge for del to uk mainland?
March 20, 2008 1:35:13 AM

Heyyou27 said:
There were few cases where the 9800GX2 was 60% faster than the 8800Ultra. There were even cases where the 8800Ultra was considerably faster than the 9800GX2 thanks to the extra 256MBs of memory.


Games like Ut3/Half Life 2 that dont work well with Sli?

What res?
March 20, 2008 1:36:30 AM

iluvgillgill said:
how much they charge for del to uk mainland?


£6
March 20, 2008 1:39:06 AM

if offer better value then ebuyer nowaday.

well as its been proven many times before more mem always help in 1920+ res specially with AA+AF enabled
March 20, 2008 1:42:39 AM

lol really depend on your luck and whether the seller sign it as.gift?or commercial product.u ever got caught??
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