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Hi,

I need a new PC to meet my academic needs related Computer Graphics, 3D Modeling and Artificial Intelligence.

Graphics card

I thinking about nVidia Quadro or GeForce serie 8/9. Which is suits more my needs and what are the advantages?

CPU

Xeon or Quad Core? Which one in each category?

Motherboard

I have no idea.

Memory

What type of memory (DDR2, DDR3, etc)?

Regards,
Alexandre

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Do you have a budget in mind?

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Ah yes, I forgot to include that.

Well, I live in Portugal and my budget should be around 1300€ which in turn is 1,995.24 USD.

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My recomendations:

CPU: Q6600 (helps in CAD, 3D,etc)

Motherboard: P35-DS3x or P5K-x

RAM: 2GB+ DDR2 800 RAM (Good manufactures include: Crucial, Corsair, OCZ, G. Skill) I personally like the Crucial Ballastix and Corsair XMS2. More than 4GB would help greately if doing some intense 3D work. Be warned that you need a x64 OS to gain full access to 3.5GB+ RAM. No need for DDR3 for now.

GPU: 3870/8800GT 512/ 8800GTS 640/3870X2/9600. You don't need to spend more money on a Workstation card. The performance gain is negligible or non existent for the price you will pay. I have found out that cards with more RAM tend to be better than cards with lower RAM, but you will have to consider clock speed,etc.

PSU: Corsair 450VX/520HX//550VX/PP&C 610. Please don't skimp on the PSU. See Official XS Tiered PSU Manufacturer Brand Listing for PSU tire listing and pick one from the top tires listed there.

Case: One that fits your budget and you like it. Keep in mind air flow, easy access, size, etc when selecting a case.






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I read some things about Quadro cards and I guess I'm giving up on it. It's just for acamdemic purposes, now and I want to play games.

8800 GTX(Ultra?) 768, HD 3870 X2, GF 9600 - which one is better?

Thanks!

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In order from best to lowest based on pure performers: (high to low)

8800Ultra
3870X2
8800GTX
9600

For your needs a 640MB 8800GTS would be good (3D, CAD,etc) for gaming a 9600 would be more than enough. Imo, unless you specificaly run software that benefit from more GPU RAM, etc. a 9600 or 8800GT 512 would be more than enough.


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- Western Digital - CAVIAR SE 250GB 8MB 7200RPM SATA II;
- GF 8800ULTRA 768MB DDR3 XLR8 OVERCLOKED DVI TVOUT PCI-X
- Intel - Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHZ
- Gigabyte - P35-DS3R
- Samsung - CW-21Z503N SLIMFIT TV 21pol

What about that? There's also the Core 2 Duo E8500 for the same prize and the P5K.

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in some theoretical testing,3870X2 is more powerful than 8800Ultra ,it means when you do some extremely arithmetic in pure X2 is great. and it's gamming performance just a little behind the 88Utra

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It's 200€ cheaper also.

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Get a 8800GT or 3870.

Don't go for ultra or SLI cards. No 3D app uses SLI or Crossfire.

Go for the q6600 and overclock to 3-3.2 or more. It's a life saver for rendering. If you decide to overclock it would be good to buy and better HSF.

Also get some DDR2. You dont really need some expensive stuff. DDR2-800 will be enough.

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^Agreed. Like I said before the Ultra is kind of an overkill. If planing on OCing make sure you get a good cooler.

 

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Get a 320GB+ 7200.11 HDD its almost as fast as a Raptor in most benchmarks.


Message edited by Shadow703793 on 03-11-2008 at 01:11:40 AM

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alexin wrote :

- Western Digital - CAVIAR SE 250GB 8MB 7200RPM SATA II;
- GF 8800ULTRA 768MB DDR3 XLR8 OVERCLOKED DVI TVOUT PCI-X
- Intel - Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHZ
- Gigabyte - P35-DS3R
- Samsung - CW-21Z503N SLIMFIT TV 21pol

 

What about that? There's also the Core 2 Duo E8500 for the same prize and the P5K.


?!?!?! Are you sure it's PCI-X? PCI-X is a completely different socket from PCIe. Never knew they made PCI-X. 8800s.


Message edited by Shadow703793 on 03-11-2008 at 01:10:51 AM

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Off-topic: What means OC? I googled but it only returned results about the TV serie...

I copy that specification from a shop's website. I think the 'X' means "put what you want here", as in 'e'

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OC means to overclock.

You get a q6600 and overclock it from 2.4 to 3.2GHz (or even more).

A 3.2GHz quad core CPU would cost you a 1000$ and this is just as good.

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Quadro vs Geforce dabate.

Get Geforce over quadro, quadro isn't worth it at all.

To really put it simple

Q6600 2.4 overclock to 3.0-3.2 GHz
Better heatsink+fan (AC Freezer 7+)
Gigabyte P35-DS3R
8800GT or HD3870
2x2GB DDR2-800 (5-5-5-8 - cheap stuff)
500W PSU (2x12v at 18A at least)
A case of your choise with a couple of fans running at 7v.
(There is a 7v fan mod, it's for silence)

You really can't go any better on this and in my opinion everything beyond this is really a waste of money.

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I might be totally of here but aren't nVidias Tesla series going to help calculating physics and thus help in Global illumination renderings such as raytracing and radiosity calculations?