Too Dark?

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"XYZ ABC" <XYZ@abc.com> wrote in
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> I went to BestBuy to check out the big screen TV sets (>=50'). I
> noticed all the large sets (including rear projection DLP, LCD and
> CRT) were kind of dark (not bright) for me. By "dark", I mean video
> shot under bright sunlight looks a little dark. They were as dark as
> my 5-year old 27' Sony, which I was planning to replace because it's
> too difficult to watch in day time with brightest setting. On the
> other hand, the plasma flat panels look bright and brilliant.
>
> I asked a guy there about this. He said it's normal and couldn't
> adjust much brighter. I also recall watching a 51' Hitachi CRT at my
> friend's house and it was kind of dark.
>
> Another friend also says his Hitachi CRT is also kind of dark.
>
> So my question is: Do all those large sets (except plasma) look kind
> of dark?
>
> I have a large bright family room. Those sets at bestbuy, if they were
> at close to brightest, won't work in my room. I'm trying to decide
> whether to wait for the plasma to come down on price or get a DLP /
> LCD now.
>
> Thanks for any info!
>
> ZR
Did you look at the JVC hd ila set?

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XYZ ABC wrote:
> I went to BestBuy to check out the big screen TV sets (>=50'). I noticed all
> the large sets (including rear projection DLP, LCD and CRT) were kind of
> dark (not bright) for me. By "dark", I mean video shot under bright sunlight
> looks a little dark. They were as dark as my 5-year old 27' Sony, which I
> was planning to replace because it's too difficult to watch in day time with
> brightest setting. On the other hand, the plasma flat panels look bright and
> brilliant.
>
> I asked a guy there about this. He said it's normal and couldn't adjust much
> brighter. I also recall watching a 51' Hitachi CRT at my friend's house and
> it was kind of dark.
>
> Another friend also says his Hitachi CRT is also kind of dark.
>
> So my question is: Do all those large sets (except plasma) look kind of
> dark?
>
> I have a large bright family room. Those sets at bestbuy, if they were at
> close to brightest, won't work in my room. I'm trying to decide whether to
> wait for the plasma to come down on price or get a DLP / LCD now.
>
> Thanks for any info!
>
> ZR
>
>
So my question is: Is your home as brightly lit as every Best Buy I've
ever seen? If so, then the sun itself will look "dark".
Oh, and btw, 90% of all tv's in America are adjusted to run WAY TOO BRIGHT!

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In general, rear projection (RP) TVs should not be used in a brightly
light room. This has always been true for rear projection CRTs which
spread the image from three cranked up 7 inch CRT guns (or 9" for some
high end sets) to a large screen. The newer microdisplay RPTVs are
brighter with high intensity bulbs, but I would not recommend the DLP or
LCD sets for rooms with a lot of daylight. I Don't know how true this is
for the JVC D-ILA sets. Of course, RP TVs while improved over the years,
still have the limited viewing angle problem, especially in the vertical
axis.

Plasmas do work better than RPTVs in normal room lighting and diffuse
daylight settings, but the big sheet of glass is reflective and can be
bothersome if there are bright windows off to the side. But I would
consider plasmas to be better in this regard in general than the direct
view CRTs which we have used for all these decades.

The best current TV display technology for brightly light rooms is
LCD direct view, but the drawback of large LCD TVs are generally poor to
mediocre black levels, motion smear (although this is getting much
better in the new brand name models) and the price tag. IMHO, the better
brand name plasmas are the best overall choice for large screen TVs and
while still pricey, the prices for plasmas have dropped dramatically
over the past 18 months.

Alan F

XYZ ABC wrote:
> I went to BestBuy to check out the big screen TV sets (>=50'). I noticed all
> the large sets (including rear projection DLP, LCD and CRT) were kind of
> dark (not bright) for me. By "dark", I mean video shot under bright sunlight
> looks a little dark. They were as dark as my 5-year old 27' Sony, which I
> was planning to replace because it's too difficult to watch in day time with
> brightest setting. On the other hand, the plasma flat panels look bright and
> brilliant.
>
> I asked a guy there about this. He said it's normal and couldn't adjust much
> brighter. I also recall watching a 51' Hitachi CRT at my friend's house and
> it was kind of dark.
>
> Another friend also says his Hitachi CRT is also kind of dark.
>
> So my question is: Do all those large sets (except plasma) look kind of
> dark?
>
> I have a large bright family room. Those sets at bestbuy, if they were at
> close to brightest, won't work in my room. I'm trying to decide whether to
> wait for the plasma to come down on price or get a DLP / LCD now.
>
> Thanks for any info!
>
> ZR

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"afiggatt" <afiggatt@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> In general, rear projection (RP) TVs should not be used in a brightly
> light room. This has always been true for rear projection CRTs which
> spread the image from three cranked up 7 inch CRT guns (or 9" for some
> high end sets) to a large screen. The newer microdisplay RPTVs are
> brighter with high intensity bulbs, but I would not recommend the DLP or
> LCD sets for rooms with a lot of daylight. I Don't know how true this is
> for the JVC D-ILA sets. Of course, RP TVs while improved over the years,
> still have the limited viewing angle problem, especially in the vertical
> axis.
>
> Plasmas do work better than RPTVs in normal room lighting and diffuse
> daylight settings, but the big sheet of glass is reflective and can be
> bothersome if there are bright windows off to the side. But I would
> consider plasmas to be better in this regard in general than the direct
> view CRTs which we have used for all these decades.
>
> The best current TV display technology for brightly light rooms is LCD
> direct view, but the drawback of large LCD TVs are generally poor to
> mediocre black levels, motion smear (although this is getting much better
> in the new brand name models) and the price tag. IMHO, the better brand
> name plasmas are the best overall choice for large screen TVs and while
> still pricey, the prices for plasmas have dropped dramatically over the
> past 18 months.
>
> Alan F
>

Thanks for the info. Looks like I'd have to wait for years for the flat
panel or get a RPTV. Those big screen (>=50') flat panels are too expensive
(5K or above) and scarce. On the other hand 42' is much cheaper and
abundant. So 50' or bigger flat panel is much more difficult to build than
42'? Sounds strange.