im about to build a new computer that will mainly be for online FPS and home theater, using Vista64 Home Premium , Samsung 226bw 22in HD LCD, Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Speakers,
i will list the hardwares that i already have in mind
E8400 OCed 4ghz at least
GF9900 (newer technology) when they eventually comes out
PSU: OCZ GameXStream 700w
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500gb 32mb cache NCQ
Fan: Cooler Master Neon Blue LED 120MM Case Fan 3PIN 22DBA 1220RPM 42.734CFM 3PINS
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14259 Heatsink: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17225 Case: Coolermaster Elite RC-330
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] omoid=1001 for RAM, see lower
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my main question is, WHAT MOTHERBOARD?!??!
P35 i might not want to pay too much for a mobo as i'll prolly change it a few monthes after Nehalem is out... so in that case, p35 would be the best for me right? or maybe i ll just make another build from scratch for Nehalem with DDR3, etc?
BUT... will the gf9900 be bottlenecked by the p35??, can I OC the E8400 AND use 4x2gb DDR2 1066mhz in dual channel too? 780i im not too sure if i want SLI or not... i was thinking that i could buy a GF9900 when its out, and then maybe 1or2 years later, i could add another same card to SLI... not sure if this is a good idea tho? what do you think?
i know i can OC E8400 to 4ghz and i think i shouldnt have any problem with 4x2gb DDR2 1066mhz on 780i, right? X38 best OCer of all 3 i beleive... i can prolly reach more than 4ghz with my E8400, and should have no problem with 4x2gb DDR2 106mhz in dual channel
i might need to get this one if the p35 bottlenecks my gf9900, or if i dont want SLI or even if i end up with ATI cards cuz gf9900 sucks, then id also have the possibility to Xfire 2ATI GPU!
RAM 4x2gb
im not too sure if i will use DDR2 1000mhz or 1066mhz, but I know im am not willing to OC the RAM because I dont care paying 20$ more and not having to OC
P35 and 780i run at 1333mhz fsb natively, and oc reliably to 1600mhz. X38 run at 1600mhz natively, and oc reliably to 2000mhz. 1600mhz = 3.6ghz for e8400.
^The market is seriously missing "X38 FTW" marked boards.
P35 is becoming the low budget OC chipset fast. P35 will be replaced by P45 in about a month. It basicly has the same features as X38 and will likely share it's price also.
By that time HD 4870 should be out also making it clear if you want CrossFire support or not
^The market is seriously missing "X38 FTW" marked boards. P35 is becoming the low budget OC chipset fast. P35 will be replaced by P45 in about a month. It basicly has the same features as X38 and will likely share it's price also.
By that time HD 4870 should be out also making it clear if you want CrossFire support or not
Does p45 support crossfire? And what process? (90nm? 65nm?)
if p35 supports 45nm, im pretty sure p45 will too..
lets say im taking x38, oc its fsb to 2ghz (500mhz for Ram..) that means i can use some 1066mhz RAM in dual channel with no problem?
wut happens if im using 4x2gb 1066mhz?
will i have to kindo downclock it?
P45 supports CrossFire (16x/16x v2.0 slots) from the previews (some Foxconn board - http://www.techpowerup.com/59259/F [...] posed.html ).
I hope that's a custom feature cause X38 will go the way of the dinosaur if that's a stock feature.
I guess it'll be made on a 65nm process.
Supports the whole Core2 (45nm + 65nm) range and DDR2 and DDR3 memory.
Message edited by Andrius on 05-03-2008 at 03:12:23 AM
So which way to go with the mobo is the hardest part.
I too have everything else picked out,
E8400
8800GTS G92
PCPC 750
Armour Case
I just can't decide between 780i and X38.
I will be gaming on a 24" monitor that supports 1920x1200,
BUT one 8800GTS will support that resolution, so I probably
don't "need" SLi. Yet I still don't know which one would be
better?
So which way to go with the mobo is the hardest part.
I too have everything else picked out,
E8400 8800GTS G92 PCPC 750 Armour Case
I just can't decide between 780i and X38. I will be gaming on a 24" monitor that supports 1920x1200, BUT one 8800GTS will support that resolution, so I probably don't "need" SLi. Yet I still don't know which one would be better?
780i has sli and x38 has crossfire. sli is equal to crossfire, not greater.
Nvidia and ATI historically take turns as industry leader. The recent hype with sli will one day pass, when ATI digs itself out of the hole. If this early benchmark for 4870 is real, then that may happen at the end of May, when 4870 is released. http://forums.legitreviews.com/about15370.html
I won't be a guinea pig for a new mobo, so which way would be the best at the moment between the X38 and 780i?
I game, have a large monitor, but I also want something that's stable. I know I've read about problems with some 780i boards. Even though they've had problems I'm still leaning that way. What's the benefit with an X38 board over the 780i?
I won't be a guinea pig for a new mobo, so which way would be the best at the moment between the X38 and 780i? I game, have a large monitor, but I also want something that's stable. I know I've read about problems with some 780i boards. Even though they've had problems I'm still leaning that way. What's the benefit with an X38 board over the 780i?
X38 runs at 1600mhz fsb natively, and reliably oc to 2000mhz. 780i runs at 1333mhz fsb natively, and reliably oc to 1600mhz. At 1600mhz fsb, 8400 runs at 3.6ghz.
is it possible to use DDR2 1066mhz in dual channel with an OCed x38 and E8400 ??? thats pretty much my last question im wondering before making my order!!
Bragging rights [worthless]. A nicer box. More accessories. A nicer name and a nicer looking board, X48 over X38 chipset, some leds, potentialy higher overclocks but not by much. That about covers it I think. Maybe S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of "I can't spell that in english" ? Not worth it if you're on a budget or don't care about those features. Worth it if you're a ROG fanboi or hate gigabyte's "box of crayons" coloring scheme.
is it possible to use DDR2 1066mhz in dual channel with an OCed x38 and E8400 ??? thats pretty much my last question im wondering before making my order!!
DDR2 DC 1066MHz is possible anyway DDR2 DC 800MHz is possible. Only the ratio is different and it keeps you covered upto 533MHz FSB.
Message edited by Andrius on 05-03-2008 at 06:55:03 AM
Yeah, the x48 is almost identical to x38 in term of overclocking performance. It is slightly better, but not worth the price if you're on a budget. And ram timings don't matter. It makes little performance difference anyway.
^What really bothers me is the fact that P45 has just about equal specs to the X38 and that has the same specs as X48. So 3 chips same features same price ... not really a clear image of performance grades. WTH?
^What really bothers me is the fact that P45 has just about equal specs to the X38 and that has the same specs as X48. So 3 chips same features same price ... not really a clear image of performance grades. WTH?
I thought the p45 use 65nm process instead of 90nm (the chipset itself, not cpu support, btw ). Are there any p45 benchmarks out yet?
^I think I said it was on a 65nm process yes.
No benchmarks I know of yet. The board previews are more feature related. It's an Intel. It'll kick ass and chew bubbulegum.
