Why SHOULDN'T you get a 9800GX2

No they don't. Go read some benchmarks.

cuz an 8800GTS 512 is virtually identical in power when Antialisaing is on, GG drivers.

Also the 9800GTX is virtually identical to an 8800GTS 512, you'd think they could slap 1gb of memory on it or something....

Nvidia can go buy a retractable iron stick for their "you-know-whats."

WE WANT NEW CARDS! NOT RE-BRANDED OLD TECHNOLOGY!

At this point in time the GX2 is probably the best performance for anyone without an SLI/crossfireX board.
And I agree with hatman, there are reviews that show the gx2 beating 3 3780's.
I agree price will be lower with 3780's, but if you want a good price you can have my 4200ti for 50$ that's even better ;-)
Sure the card is far from perfect and it's just an SLI on one card, but it's still the fastest single card for someone with 1 PCIe slot.

uuuuuhhhhhhh..............because it's $600 too many damn dollars?

I'll pass on the Geforce 9 series; in my opinion they appear to be nothing but ****.

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I had one of the severn DFI setups in my profile die so I built a fast replacement about 4 weeks ago.

At first I had a 38** untill I found I could have a 8800GTS (G92) for the same price...I sent the -unopened- ATI card back for a refund.

The human eye can only see so much and anything -if- it is better than the 8800GTS (G92) only matters in a -benchmark- and for most people is 100% worthless.
Playing a game you can't tell between that and a GFX card 10 times faster.

If people have money to burn...and think that after "point X" they are going to get a higher value/game high....let those people think so.

The 8800GTS 512 (G92) can be found for as low as $220 last time I looked.

For anyone interested.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/0 [...] x2_review/

Hey you do know that 3way CF takes a top line X38 or 48 board like the P5E3 deulux

Oh you think US retailers are price gouging? The GX2 goes for over $800 in Australia, and I'm sure that's dirt cheap compared to somewhere like Thailand.

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lol... 8800's are good but not awesome. I cant play COD4 at 1920x1200 with 4x aa and get solid FPS. Same with a lot of other games.


As I've said before, as soon as price comes down to £300 ill be getting one. £380 atm. Down from £420 on launch day lol.

With the HD 2900 XT disaster ATI was way behind Nvidia 8800 line. Like the story of a rabbit and a turtle. 9800GX2 and 9800GTX is NV sleeping step, while ATI maybe catching them up with a turtle rocket skateboard - HD 4xxx series.

And ATI is on better fab process.... HD 4xxx could be really speedy.... if the put more ROP's.

I agree with the guy who says price/performance. I've got an SLI mobo, what you may see me do over the next couple of years is grab a 9600gt, then as prices go lower and I want more performance, SLI it with another 9600, that way, still get some decent playtime out of the cards, and still spent less than the 9800 gx2

tell ya what, hop a flight to manila over a long weekend and pick one up...this thing WILL be dirt cheap. they sell 10k rolexes there for like 2k. so, if you can afford it, go ahead

GDDR3 is cheaper (I think), so that's why they are still using it. DX10.1 won't be used until they start using DX10.... PROPERLY.

Because Nvidia drivers are not more smarter than the Raydeyons.

anyhow,
I think that the GX2 is pretty much a dead investment.
If I was you, i'd wait for a little moment until the new Geforces come out (g 200 chips). I'm playing on a 22" monitor , @ 1680x1050 with crysis on high and get solid stable fps. I just don't think it's worth the bloody price for that 9800GX2. And I know how annoying it is to your card crumbling down when you just spend $600 on it. But hey... that's business. I'd just take the G92 (Geforce 8800GTS 512) anyway.

And you'll never be future proof cause simply, technology is constantly improving... you're PC might last few years... but still... within 5 years your PC will be old and you'll have to upgrade again.

I think SLI or CF is pretty much a waste of money anyway. Sure the SLI'd GT's and CF 3870 are pretty much a good bang for your buck. I just don't see why it should be needed, cause simply you can just buy one powerfull card, or just wait until a newer card comes that has THAT performance on 1 die.

Also the power consumption when gaming increases... and leaves more heat in your case. Higher ambient temperature in your case. Less lifespan of the CPU (bit overreacted)

I'd just wait until newer chips arrive. And look again for benchmarks then,

no no no , I'm not dismissing it, I'm only trying to say that I don't see much that of an improvement using 2 chips instead of one single. (why not make 1 chip bigger instead of using 2 chips)

I used to have a 3DFX voodoo 2 paired with my ATI 2mb
that was rock solid performance. On my Pentium MMX back then.

I just don't like the double cheeseburger ideas. Especially when they are not as effective as just one single card (per chip that is). I just hope future games are going to have SLI and CF implemented and used effectively, 80% boosts so that the scaling for CF and SLI is better. So that the consumer does actually benefit from it to save money and time.

And sorry for my horrible english, I'm 17 years old and from The Netherlands

I'm waiting for a real jump in technology and performance. NVidia has been doing the bare minimum it has to and reaping alot of profits. They make damn good cards, but without a stiff competition we all suffer

Its wickedly fast and its quite cheap for what you get...

8800gtx was $600 when it launched, this card is 50% faster or more and is $600 too, its a single slot card and you can Quad Sli it in the future and power consumption would be similar to 2 Ultra's in Sli...

Its power consumption is remarkable...

It has the same idle consumption as 2 x 9600gt and same load as 2 by 8800gt and it can compete with 2 Ultra's in Sli, which need a 1k psu....

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14355/9

Should of done your research.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3266&p=4

Nice go at making youreself look clever. Doesn't even count OC'ing which will make 9series/8series destroy the ATis due to having more hardware to start off with.

Lets say I get an ATI 3780X2 now, will I be able to crossfireX it with a 4780X2 later in the year?
Would the newer card only work at the speed of the older card?
That crossfire between different cards seems wierd.
If I knew the aswer to this is positive I would consinder an X48 with one X2 now, or else I think I'll get the more expensive 790i & 9800GTX SLI.
The facts are the nvidia cards are faster... but more expensive.

another point is you cant really compare a graphics setup that got 1.5G of video mem(3x3870) to 1gb mem setup(9800GX2).its more realistic to compare 9800gx2 to 3870x2 which are in the same league.

Tri Xfire should compare to tri sli 8800GTS or forthcomin 9800gtx

I can do it too! Oblivion is not the most demanding game now
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512mb effective... what has 1gb mem? Plus amount of memory isn't what you should be looking at. Also if you read before the price of the 9800GX2 = 3x3870s. Still I would rather just SLI 2x8800GTs for that.