8800gt vs 8800gts (g92) better bang for the buck? Which
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nuklep1
March 22, 2008 11:27:34 PM
Avenger_K
March 23, 2008 12:03:24 AM
mihirkula
March 23, 2008 12:10:33 AM
A month ago i would've said 8800GT, because both the cards were much more expensive and the GTS wasn't worth the $300 (its only a fractional improvement performance wise over the GT) while the GT was VERY MUCH worth the money(still is)...but now for 220 bucks the GTS is quite a good deal...get the GTS.
i hope you have a good PSU and CPU though.
i hope you have a good PSU and CPU though.
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nuklep1
March 23, 2008 12:12:02 AM
mihirkula
March 23, 2008 1:08:29 AM
pauldh
March 23, 2008 1:28:37 AM
Both great options for the money, go with what you can afford. If you hate noise, avoid the single slot 8800GT with the refernce cooler. Happy shopping.
I like this Quad pipe 8800GT for $185 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or this 8800GTS for $215 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or this 8800GTS for $230AR with Crysis and lifetime warranty:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Bang for buck I'd vote for a $110 8800GS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or the $145 9600GT:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I like this Quad pipe 8800GT for $185 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or this 8800GTS for $215 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or this 8800GTS for $230AR with Crysis and lifetime warranty:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Bang for buck I'd vote for a $110 8800GS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or the $145 9600GT:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
nuklep1
March 23, 2008 1:41:47 AM
pauldh said:
Both great options for the money, go with what you can afford. If you hate noise, avoid the single slot 8800GT with the refernce cooler. Happy shopping.I like this Quad pipe 8800GT for $185 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or this 8800GTS for $215 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or this 8800GTS for $230AR with Crysis and lifetime warranty:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Bang for buck I'd vote for a $110 8800GS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or the $145 9600GT:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The prices I quoted were after taxes and shipping to California.
Also I was considering 8800gs deal. but that would not be great upgrade over a 7900gs. would it? ?
pauldh
March 23, 2008 2:27:47 AM
Oh yeah, while not quite as good as the 9600GT, The 8800GS is way above the 7900GS. No comparison at all. It trades blows with the HD3850, which beats the 7900GTX even.
example of 7900GS vs HD3850 and 9600GT: http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_9600_gt_...
Hard charts to follow, but here you can see 8800GS vs 9600GT, and HD3850. Their 8800GS is the same clocks as the evga $110 one. (550/1600) http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&ta...
example of 7900GS vs HD3850 and 9600GT: http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_9600_gt_...
Hard charts to follow, but here you can see 8800GS vs 9600GT, and HD3850. Their 8800GS is the same clocks as the evga $110 one. (550/1600) http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&ta...
omahagtp
March 23, 2008 3:18:05 AM
Not trying to undercut your deals pauldh, which are great. But I got on just to double check this site before I placed my order.
Right now on slickdeals.net, you can find through buy.com that same evga g92 8800gts, with Crysis (at least that's what the model number indicates, though the picture does not) for $207.49 after a $30 rebate.
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=77...
I was gonna wait for the 9800GTX to come out to see what I'm missing, but it doesn't sound like much. And hey, if it is, sounds like I can use the EVGA step up program within 90 days.
Right now on slickdeals.net, you can find through buy.com that same evga g92 8800gts, with Crysis (at least that's what the model number indicates, though the picture does not) for $207.49 after a $30 rebate.
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=77...
I was gonna wait for the 9800GTX to come out to see what I'm missing, but it doesn't sound like much. And hey, if it is, sounds like I can use the EVGA step up program within 90 days.
pauldh
March 23, 2008 3:58:14 PM
alpine18
March 27, 2008 4:32:55 PM
I have both a 8800GTS and 8800GT in separate systems. I'm scratching my head wondering why I paid $300 for the GTS when I paid $200 for the GT and the performance is virtually identical at resolutions up to 1680x1050. My GT actually BEATS the GTS in performance of some games. I originally bought the GTS for my main gaming computer, but switched them when I saw the better performance of the GT.
The MSI 8800GT from NewEgg for $179 is probably your best performance for the money - and besides it has an after-market cooler that is significantly better than the standard cooling system on most 8800GT cards - idle is about 38C, and I've never seen it over 50C in use.
The MSI 8800GT from NewEgg for $179 is probably your best performance for the money - and besides it has an after-market cooler that is significantly better than the standard cooling system on most 8800GT cards - idle is about 38C, and I've never seen it over 50C in use.
memoryguy
April 2, 2008 8:45:16 AM
kpo6969
April 2, 2008 8:41:44 PM
doomsdaydave11
April 2, 2008 10:15:59 PM
pauldh
April 2, 2008 10:28:23 PM
Currently hard to fault either card. On newegg, it's $180 for a Quad pipe 8800GT or $200 for a GTS. Both after rebate, both MSI, both with the Witcher game for free.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TurdBurglar
April 2, 2008 10:39:56 PM
qmalik
April 2, 2008 11:12:32 PM
B-Unit
April 2, 2008 11:33:55 PM
At $220 the GTS is a great deal, but as mentioned unless you have a big monitor, youll never see any more performance from it than you would from a GT. I own the MSI card and it is nice. Using it with a 20" 16x10 and it eats everything (cept Crysis) I throw at it at maxxed settings. See my overclock in sig.
marvelous211
April 3, 2008 1:20:02 AM
marvelous211
April 3, 2008 1:25:32 AM
pauldh said:
Oh yeah, while not quite as good as the 9600GT, The 8800GS is way above the 7900GS. No comparison at all. It trades blows with the HD3850, which beats the 7900GTX even. example of 7900GS vs HD3850 and 9600GT: http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_9600_gt_...
Hard charts to follow, but here you can see 8800GS vs 9600GT, and HD3850. Their 8800GS is the same clocks as the evga $110 one. (550/1600) http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&ta...
http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/21/review-palit-8800gs-...
I think this is a better chart. Notice the 8800gs is clocked pretty low and it beats 3850 512mb card most of the benchmarks except for Call of Juerez which emphasize on pixel performance and memory bandwidth which 8800gs is also running out vram.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/03/25/nvidia-sli-performan...
This also tests 174.xx drivers vs 169.xx drivers on 8800gt. Notice all the reviews test the 9600gt it uses 174.xx drivers while G92 chips were using 169.xx drivers which made the 9600gt look a little better.
Norien
April 3, 2008 2:02:18 AM
Hey guys even though I didnt start this post thanks for the information as I am also thinking of buying a new
v card.
Though I do have a question and want to make sure my current mobo and psu can handle them.
I have the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 and
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI
If you have any questions please let me know.
v card.
Though I do have a question and want to make sure my current mobo and psu can handle them.
I have the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 and
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI
If you have any questions please let me know.
pauldh
April 3, 2008 3:16:49 AM
marvelous211 said:
http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/21/review-palit-8800gs-...I think this is a better chart. Notice the 8800gs is clocked pretty low and it beats 3850 512mb card most of the benchmarks except for Call of Juerez which emphasize on pixel performance and memory bandwidth.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/03/25/nvidia-sli-performan...
This also tests 174.xx drivers vs 169.xx drivers on 8800gt. Notice all the reviews test the 9600gt it uses 174.xx drivers while G92 chips were using 169.xx drivers which made the 9600gt look a little better.
Thx for the link. Seems pretty even as far as number of games they win. Bigger wins for the 8800GS though. As far as clock speeds, that's a factory overclocked 8800GS (575/1700) vs a reference clocked HD3850. Now, you have proved the 8800GS has serious headroom, but for reference clocks(if there is such a thing for the 8800GS) is 550/1600 like your evga. XFX has a 580/1400 and version. I'd say at reference clocks they would trade blows for sure. Max overclocked may be a different story.
Yeah, I hate the various driver versions for recent NV releases like that. I've been using 17x.xx drivers for quite a while with the 8800GT.
BTW, once my taxes have been mailed, I should finally have the time to get started on my own mini review that's been planned for quite a while. It will be fun to see when/where each card shines. Here are some of the cards:
Notice the XFX 8800GS is shorter than the evga, but a tad taller. And the Visiontek HD3850 is about equal or 1/16" longer than the evga 8800GS. Other cards will be the 8800GT 512MB, 8800GTS 320MB, X1950XT 256MB, and 7800GT. Will be time consuming by something I always enjoy/look forward to doing.
marvelous211
April 3, 2008 3:29:18 AM
Are you going to do a mini review on all those cards? I'm getting excited already.
I would love to see max overclocked benches instead of factory clocked. Raw performance #'s and then AA would be awesome! I wish you could stick a 9600gt into the mix.
XFX is based on 6 layer PCB I guess to cut cost. EVGA uses standard 8800gt pcb.
There are different clocked version 8800gs though.. Not just 550/1375/800 or whatever. EVGA model has 650core 950mem model. There is no difference between these different models physically. These companies just charging more for a factory clocks.
BTW XFX dropped their price again. $100 after rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I would love to see max overclocked benches instead of factory clocked. Raw performance #'s and then AA would be awesome! I wish you could stick a 9600gt into the mix.
XFX is based on 6 layer PCB I guess to cut cost. EVGA uses standard 8800gt pcb.
There are different clocked version 8800gs though.. Not just 550/1375/800 or whatever. EVGA model has 650core 950mem model. There is no difference between these different models physically. These companies just charging more for a factory clocks.
BTW XFX dropped their price again. $100 after rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
marvelous211
April 3, 2008 3:31:04 AM
Norien said:
Hey guys even though I didnt start this post thanks for the information as I am also thinking of buying a newv card.
Though I do have a question and want to make sure my current mobo and psu can handle them.
I have the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 and
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI
If you have any questions please let me know.
Any card should work.
pauldh
April 3, 2008 3:44:51 AM
Yeah, all 8 is the plan. Alot of games too. I only say "mini" review because it will mainly be exploring performance (benching and performance charts) and not alot of other in-depth info. We shall see how much time I can find. And before you get too excited, part one anyway won't have OC'in in it. I hope to follow up with that on some of the cards later on. Also, no way will I be able to churn out results in one night like you managed to do. Probably need a couple weeks to get through all of it. I do wish I had a 9600GT, 8600GTS, and HD3870 though. I'd never buy one, but would like to have seen the how 256MB 8800GT does too.
pauldh
April 3, 2008 3:51:21 AM
LOL, I see your edit now. Yeah, I so wanted to buy the galaxy 9600GT when it was $125 AR. I have my sites set on the MSI dual pipe model to go lower still. It's possible, but no promises.
And Maybe I'll get some OCin in on the first run through. I want to, just know that alone takes time to find max OC. You got me thinking more about seeing if the 8800GS can be OC'ed enough to keep up with the stock 8800GT. Definately will explore both AA and no AA as I am an AA junkie so feel that is important to explore.
BTW, I went with the evga superclock for $119. So that would be a 650/1900 evga and 580/1400 XFX, kinda the slowest and fastest factory 8800GS clocks. Hopefully my evga still has headroom like yours.
And Maybe I'll get some OCin in on the first run through. I want to, just know that alone takes time to find max OC. You got me thinking more about seeing if the 8800GS can be OC'ed enough to keep up with the stock 8800GT. Definately will explore both AA and no AA as I am an AA junkie so feel that is important to explore.
BTW, I went with the evga superclock for $119. So that would be a 650/1900 evga and 580/1400 XFX, kinda the slowest and fastest factory 8800GS clocks. Hopefully my evga still has headroom like yours.
marvelous211
April 3, 2008 3:57:26 AM
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