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Which one is a better buy?

XFX 8800gt clocked 640Mhz(Vs 600 standard) for $195

OR

EVGA 8800gts 512 clocked at 670Mhz(I think standard) for $220


I game at 1680x1050 and currently have a 7900GS 256mb


Message edited by nuklep1 on 03-23-2008 at 01:59:07 AM
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Evga 8800GTS. Better cooler, more overclocking headroom and about 10% faster to boot.

Reply to Avenger_K

A month ago i would've said 8800GT, because both the cards were much more expensive and the GTS wasn't worth the $300 (its only a fractional improvement performance wise over the GT) while the GT was VERY MUCH worth the money(still is)...but now for 220 bucks the GTS is quite a good deal...get the GTS.

i hope you have a good PSU and CPU though.

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my psu is 850w and cpu is q6600

Reply to nuklep1

thats good. happy shopping

Cheers!

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Both great options for the money, go with what you can afford. If you hate noise, avoid the single slot 8800GT with the refernce cooler. Happy shopping.

I like this Quad pipe 8800GT for $185 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127329

Or this 8800GTS for $215 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127323

Or this 8800GTS for $230AR with Crysis and lifetime warranty:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130312


Bang for buck I'd vote for a $110 8800GS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130332

or the $145 9600GT:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127333

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pauldh wrote :

Both great options for the money, go with what you can afford. If you hate noise, avoid the single slot 8800GT with the refernce cooler. Happy shopping.

I like this Quad pipe 8800GT for $185 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127329

Or this 8800GTS for $215 AR with the Witcher:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127323

Or this 8800GTS for $230AR with Crysis and lifetime warranty:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130312


Bang for buck I'd vote for a $110 8800GS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130332

or the $145 9600GT:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127333





The prices I quoted were after taxes and shipping to California.

Also I was considering 8800gs deal. but that would not be great upgrade over a 7900gs. would it? ?

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Oh yeah, while not quite as good as the 9600GT, The 8800GS is way above the 7900GS. No comparison at all. It trades blows with the HD3850, which beats the 7900GTX even.
example of 7900GS vs HD3850 and 9600GT: http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nv [...] page12.asp

Hard charts to follow, but here you can see 8800GS vs 9600GT, and HD3850. Their 8800GS is the same clocks as the evga $110 one. (550/1600) http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] mitstart=1

Reply to pauldh

Not trying to undercut your deals pauldh, which are great. But I got on just to double check this site before I placed my order.

 

Right now on slickdeals.net, you can find through buy.com that same evga g92 8800gts, with Crysis (at least that's what the model number indicates, though the picture does not) for $207.49 after a $30 rebate.

 

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showt [...] did=777310

 

I was gonna wait for the 9800GTX to come out to see what I'm missing, but it doesn't sound like much. And hey, if it is, sounds like I can use the EVGA step up program within 90 days.


Message edited by omahagtp on 03-23-2008 at 05:29:48 AM
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^ Oh now worries, if you see better prices please share them. I'd like to see the OP or anyone else reading this get the most for their money.

Reply to pauldh

I have both a 8800GTS and 8800GT in separate systems. I'm scratching my head wondering why I paid $300 for the GTS when I paid $200 for the GT and the performance is virtually identical at resolutions up to 1680x1050. My GT actually BEATS the GTS in performance of some games. I originally bought the GTS for my main gaming computer, but switched them when I saw the better performance of the GT.

The MSI 8800GT from NewEgg for $179 is probably your best performance for the money - and besides it has an after-market cooler that is significantly better than the standard cooling system on most 8800GT cards - idle is about 38C, and I've never seen it over 50C in use.

Reply to alpine18

The 8800GT is a gem.

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8800GT was (is)
but the 8800GTS may become the better bang for the buck as prices come down as Nvidia may clear them out.
8800GT and GTS may soon vanish as 9800GTX and 9800GT replace them.

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Reply to kpo6969

The 8800GT is still better bang for buck, but you need to consider that the 8800GTS really shines over the 8800GT at higher resolutions. If you have a 19" monitor, it would probably be more worth it to get a 8800GT anyway.

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Reply to doomsdaydave11

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Currently hard to fault either card. On newegg, it's $180 for a Quad pipe 8800GT or $200 for a GTS. Both after rebate, both MSI, both with the Witcher game for free.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127329
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127325

Reply to pauldh

Apparently some pretty good overclocks are being had with the 8800GS putting it on par or better than the 9600GT. That might be the best bang for the buck at the moment. However, that sets the performance ceiling lower than most hardcore gamers would like.

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2gb Super Talent PC6400 | BFG 8800GT OC 512mb (740/1854/1980) w/ Accelero S1 Turbo |
Corsair 450VX PSU | Cooler Master Elite 330 Case | Windows XP Pro | 3dMark06 14,716
Reply to TurdBurglar
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8800GT only cost $175....if you know where to look. Given that price than the 8800GT is best bang for buck. However, comparing the prices on those specific cards OP listed...the 8800GTS is.

Reply to qmalik
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At $220 the GTS is a great deal, but as mentioned unless you have a big monitor, youll never see any more performance from it than you would from a GT. I own the MSI card and it is nice. Using it with a 20" 16x10 and it eats everything (cept Crysis) I throw at it at maxxed settings. See my overclock in sig.

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Reply to B-Unit

8800gt ftw. It's so close the 8800gts that it's not even worth mentioning. Overclock 8800gt and you can easily surpass 8800gts.

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Reply to marvelous211

pauldh wrote :

Oh yeah, while not quite as good as the 9600GT, The 8800GS is way above the 7900GS. No comparison at all. It trades blows with the HD3850, which beats the 7900GTX even.
example of 7900GS vs HD3850 and 9600GT: http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nv [...] page12.asp

 

Hard charts to follow, but here you can see 8800GS vs 9600GT, and HD3850. Their 8800GS is the same clocks as the evga $110 one. (550/1600) http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] mitstart=1

 

http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/21 [...] b/?page=24

 

I think this is a better chart. Notice the 8800gs is clocked pretty low and it beats 3850 512mb card most of the benchmarks except for Call of Juerez which emphasize on pixel performance and memory bandwidth which 8800gs is also running out vram.

 

http://en.expreview.com/2008/03/25 [...] ng-test/5/

 

This also tests 174.xx drivers vs 169.xx drivers on 8800gt. Notice all the reviews test the 9600gt it uses 174.xx drivers while G92 chips were using 169.xx drivers which made the 9600gt look a little better.

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Message edited by marvelous211 on 04-03-2008 at 05:36:21 AM
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Hey guys even though I didnt start this post thanks for the information as I am also thinking of buying a new
v card.

Though I do have a question and want to make sure my current mobo and psu can handle them.

I have the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 and
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI


If you have any questions please let me know.

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marvelous211 wrote :

http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/21 [...] b/?page=24

I think this is a better chart. Notice the 8800gs is clocked pretty low and it beats 3850 512mb card most of the benchmarks except for Call of Juerez which emphasize on pixel performance and memory bandwidth.

http://en.expreview.com/2008/03/25 [...] ng-test/5/

This also tests 174.xx drivers vs 169.xx drivers on 8800gt. Notice all the reviews test the 9600gt it uses 174.xx drivers while G92 chips were using 169.xx drivers which made the 9600gt look a little better.


Thx for the link. Seems pretty even as far as number of games they win. Bigger wins for the 8800GS though. As far as clock speeds, that's a factory overclocked 8800GS (575/1700) vs a reference clocked HD3850. Now, you have proved the 8800GS has serious headroom, but for reference clocks(if there is such a thing for the 8800GS) is 550/1600 like your evga. XFX has a 580/1400 and version. I'd say at reference clocks they would trade blows for sure. Max overclocked may be a different story. ;)

Yeah, I hate the various driver versions for recent NV releases like that. I've been using 17x.xx drivers for quite a while with the 8800GT.

BTW, once my taxes have been mailed, I should finally have the time to get started on my own mini review that's been planned for quite a while. It will be fun to see when/where each card shines. Here are some of the cards:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8837/smalljg0.jpg

Notice the XFX 8800GS is shorter than the evga, but a tad taller. And the Visiontek HD3850 is about equal or 1/16" longer than the evga 8800GS. Other cards will be the 8800GT 512MB, 8800GTS 320MB, X1950XT 256MB, and 7800GT. Will be time consuming by something I always enjoy/look forward to doing.

Reply to pauldh

Are you going to do a mini review on all those cards? I'm getting excited already. :bounce:

 

I would love to see max overclocked benches instead of factory clocked. Raw performance #'s and then AA would be awesome! I wish you could stick a 9600gt into the mix.

 

XFX is based on 6 layer PCB I guess to cut cost. EVGA uses standard 8800gt pcb.

 

There are different clocked version 8800gs though.. Not just 550/1375/800 or whatever. EVGA model has 650core 950mem model. There is no difference between these different models physically. These companies just charging more for a factory clocks.

 

BTW XFX dropped their price again. $100 after rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150275


Message edited by marvelous211 on 04-03-2008 at 05:53:24 AM
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4 gigs Gskill
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http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ew-benches
Reply to marvelous211

Norien wrote :

Hey guys even though I didnt start this post thanks for the information as I am also thinking of buying a new
v card.

Though I do have a question and want to make sure my current mobo and psu can handle them.

I have the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 and
OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI


If you have any questions please let me know.



Any card should work.

------------------------------ Asus P5B vanilla with E6300 B2 stepping @ 3.5
4 gigs Gskill
8800GTS 756/1836/1037
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ew-benches
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Yeah, all 8 is the plan. Alot of games too. I only say "mini" review because it will mainly be exploring performance (benching and performance charts) and not alot of other in-depth info. We shall see how much time I can find. And before you get too excited, part one anyway won't have OC'in in it. I hope to follow up with that on some of the cards later on. Also, no way will I be able to churn out results in one night like you managed to do. Probably need a couple weeks to get through all of it. I do wish I had a 9600GT, 8600GTS, and HD3870 though. I'd never buy one, but would like to have seen the how 256MB 8800GT does too.

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LOL, I see your edit now. Yeah, I so wanted to buy the galaxy 9600GT when it was $125 AR. I have my sites set on the MSI dual pipe model to go lower still. It's possible, but no promises.

And Maybe I'll get some OCin in on the first run through. I want to, just know that alone takes time to find max OC. You got me thinking more about seeing if the 8800GS can be OC'ed enough to keep up with the stock 8800GT. Definately will explore both AA and no AA as I am an AA junkie so feel that is important to explore.

BTW, I went with the evga superclock for $119. So that would be a 650/1900 evga and 580/1400 XFX, kinda the slowest and fastest factory 8800GS clocks. Hopefully my evga still has headroom like yours.


Message edited by pauldh on 04-03-2008 at 05:56:09 AM
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Well I'll be here I would love to see it. I can't wait. :P


Message edited by marvelous211 on 04-03-2008 at 06:00:23 AM
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