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rgsaunders   04-10-2008 at 06:09:03 AM

It would be interesting to see how this is worded, considering that the general idea of plug in modular cabling is covered by prior art, this type of cabling has been used in the avionics industry for decades, long before Ultra was even in existence.

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Zorg   04-10-2008 at 07:28:20 AM
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What, no link?

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lostandwandering   04-10-2008 at 04:55:38 PM
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Here ya go: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36868/122/

I highly doubt they will make money off of some of those companies. The reason being that a few of them don't even make their PSUs, so they haven't really done anything wrong themselves (Corsair being an example since Seasonic actually builds their modular units).

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Sailer   04-10-2008 at 05:44:14 PM
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Interesting that the number of the patent that they claim has been violated has not been listed. This almost looks more like a shakedown, hoping that the other companies will settle claims out of court rather than spend all the time, money, and effort to go into court and battle it out.

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lostandwandering   04-10-2008 at 06:07:03 PM
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Maybe if Ultra used better PSUs they wouldn't need the money from the lawsuit: http://hardocp.com/article.html?ar [...] RodXNpYXN0

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boonality   04-10-2008 at 06:52:02 PM
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lostandwandering wrote :

Maybe if Ultra used better PSUs they wouldn't need the money from the lawsuit: http://hardocp.com/article.html?ar [...] RodXNpYXN0



Wow that review was something else. It deserves more attention. The updates at the end were especially alarming!

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Sailer   04-10-2008 at 06:56:51 PM
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Yeah, there's a reason that some of their PSUs are rated as tier 5. It all makes me wonder how they ended up with a model that was tier 2. Did someone else make the good PSU and Ultra stuck their name on it?

Edit: I just read the updates at the end of the hardop article and it looks like Ultra was flat out lying about that PSU. Too bad that the people who bought them don't get together and file a class action lawsuit against Ultra.

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Zorg   04-10-2008 at 07:39:05 PM
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lostandwandering wrote :

Here ya go: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36868/122/

Thanks for the link I was too lazy to use Google. Partly in protest to the clowns that start threads like this without providing a link to the article they just read.

 

It certainly looks like they are going to need the money, based on the Ultra X2 Extreme Review.


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SirMoby   04-15-2008 at 11:42:37 AM
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Sailer wrote :

This almost looks more like a shakedown, hoping that the other companies will settle claims out of court rather than spend all the time, money, and effort to go into court and battle it out.


It is a shakedown. In order to win a patent/trademark case, an owner has to prove that they've defended the patent/trademark. You can't just allow your patented technology to be used for a decade and then suddenly decide that you want royalties. You have to pursue those royalties from the beginning.

However, if they ask for a reasonable out of court settlement they will get it from many companies since they have legal funds/insurance to cover such things.

It won't change anything for us.

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jonnyguru   04-16-2008 at 06:13:37 PM
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rgsaunders wrote :

It would be interesting to see how this is worded, considering that the general idea of plug in modular cabling is covered by prior art, this type of cabling has been used in the avionics industry for decades, long before Ultra was even in existence.



Have a look for yourself: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph [...] =7,133,293

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Yeah, there's a reason that some of their PSUs are rated as tier 5. It all makes me wonder how they ended up with a model that was tier 2. Did someone else make the good PSU and Ultra stuck their name on it?



Like most any other PSU company, Ultra doesn't "make" anything. They commission OEM factories to make products for them. Sometimes different OEM's are used to satisfy different price points. The X2 in the review is made by Wintech. The X3 is made by Andyson. Two completely different OEM's with different build quality. Another example of OEM's of varying quality would be an FSP built Antec Basiq vs. an Enhance built Antec TruePower Quattro. The two are VERY different from one another and neither are "made" by Antec.

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lostandwandering   04-16-2008 at 06:35:44 PM
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Looks like we have been honored with the presence of the PSU guru himself :)

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